How do we fix capitalism Jow Forums?
How do we fix capitalism Jow Forums?
Jose Torres
Wyatt Wilson
Jace Clark
Please explain how capitalism means taking wealth from those who work hard and giving it to those who don't
Evan Hughes
Hurrrr the CEO doesn't work. I could be CEO but fascists dont want to hire me cause no experience
Jose James
So back to the question, how do we fix capitalism?
Leo Sullivan
>theft of wages
>free exchange of goods and services
PICK ONE.
Christopher Barnes
>only personal income is taxed
Brody Reyes
>The sale of living activity brings about another reversal. Through sale, the labor of an individual becomes the "property" of another, it is appropriated by another, it comes under the control of another. In other words, a person's activity becomes the activity of another, the activity of its owner; it becomes alien to the person who performs it. Thus one's life, the accomplishments of an individual in the world, the difference which his life makes in the life of humanity, are not only transformed into labor, a painful condition for survival; they are transformed into alien activity, activity performed by the buyer of that labor. In capitalist society, the architects, the engineers, the laborers, are not builders; the man who buys their labor is the builder; their projects, calculations and motions are alien to them; their living activity, their accomplishments, are his.
Dominic Cruz
remove income tax, get back on the gold standard
there, i fixed it
Christian Lopez
CAPTIALISM HASN'T EXISTED IN 100yrs!
Nicholas Sanchez
>In exchange for his sold activity, the worker gets money, the conventionally accepted means of survival in capitalist society. With this money he can buy commodities, things, but he cannot buy back his activity. This reveals a peculiar "gap" in money as the "universal equivalent." A person can sell commodities for money, and he can buy the same commodities with money. He can sell his living activity for money, but he cannot buy his living activity for money.
>The things the worker buys with his wages are first of all consumer goods which enable him to survive, to reproduce his labor-power so as to be able to continue selling it. And they are spectacles, objects for passive admiration. He consumes and admires the products of human activity passively. He does not exist in the world as an active agent who transforms it. But as a helpless impotent spectator he may call this state of powerless admiration "happiness," and since labor is painful, he may desire to be "happy," namely inactive, all his life (a condition similar to being born dead).
Brayden Cox
Zachary Miller
>remove income tax, get back on the gold standard
>there, i fixed it
Jews own the gold. You have remove usury
Parker Jenkins
Let's make everyone a slave for the state who isn't free to do what they want with their labor.
Luke James
Retard alert.
Cooper Collins
>In exchange for his sold activity, the worker gets money
No we don't. We get debt bucks from the (((International Banks)))
Michael Flores
kill all anti-capitalists
Owen Lewis
less words please, I'm driving a bus and can't look at my phone that long
Joseph Brooks
Jonathan Price
>lefty memes
Bentley Miller
the state is an integral and an indispensable component in the machine that is Capitalism
there is not Capital and State (government)
there is just Capital, the state is nothing but the armed wing of the capitalist class, the burguesia
Michael Nguyen
>Not real capitalism
>Exploitation is a-okay as long as it's consensual
Joseph Bell
Luis Bell
Dumbass
Ryan Wright
XD funny leftypol piggie lol
btfod!
Hunter Russell
Perhaps all executives should be given psych testing for sociopathy. Weed them out.
Oliver Bell
Build a white ethnostate
Juan Gutierrez
Actually that's exactly what socialism means
Eli Gray
>In capitalist society, creative activity takes the form of commodity production, namely production of marketable goods, and the results of human activity take the form of commodities. Marketability or saleability is the universal characteristic of all practical activity and all products. The products of human activity which are necessary for survival have the form of saleable goods: they are only available in exchange for money. And money is only available in exchange for commodities. If a large number of men accept the legitimacy of these conventions, if they accept the convention that commodities are a prerequisite for money, and that money is a prerequisite for survival, then they find themselves locked into a vicious circle. Since they have no commodities, their only exit from this circle is to regard themselves, or parts of themselves, as commodities. And this is, in fact, the peculiar "solution" which men impose on themselves in the face of specific material and historical conditions. They do not exchange their bodies or parts of their bodies for money. They exchange the creative content of their lives, their practical daily activity, for money.
>As soon as men accept money as an equivalent for life, the sale of living activity becomes a condition for their physical and social survival. Life is exchanged for survival. Creation and production come to mean sold activity. A man's activity is "productive," useful to society, only when it is sold activity. And the man himself is a productive member of society only if the activities of his daily life are sold activities. As soon as people accept the terms of this exchange, daily activity takes the form of universal prostitution.
Carter Wilson
>The sold creative power, or sold daily activity, takes the form of labor; labor is a historically specific form of human activity; labor is abstract activity which has only one property; it is marketable; it can be sold for a given quantity of money; labor is indifferent activity; indifferent to the particular task performed and indifferent to the particular subject to which the task is directed. Digging, printing and carving are different activities, but all three are labor in capitalist society; labor is simply "earning money." Living activity which takes the form of labor is a means to earn money. Life becomes a means of survival.
>This ironic reversal is not the dramatic climax of an imaginative novel; it is a fact of daily life in capitalist society. Survival, namely self-preservation and reproduction, is not the means to creative practical activity, but precisely the other way around. Creative activity in the form of labor, namely sold activity, is a painful necessity for survival; labor is the means to self-preservation and reproduction.
Owen Fisher
Wow, that meme is awful. TWD hasn’t been relevant in years.
Easton Garcia
the best part about delusional commies is that when they are confronted with the reality that most salaried people do nothing of value they get mad that employers dont make better jobs.
it boggles the mind.
Ryder Hughes
What stops the Aryan billionaires from trying to import cheaper labor?
Jayden Sanders
only people who have failed in life find communism desirable.
Hudson Murphy
In capitalism, you don't become rich by working hard, you become rich by making other work hard for you
Ethan Long
actually you become rich by acquiring capital. How you do that is up to you.
Brody Cook
Sounds like becoming rich is pretty easy, why aren't you rich?
Leo Garcia
>fix
It's working fine. Retard Communists are staying poor.
Evan Cruz
kill off the working class and replace low iq faggots with robots.
Dylan Sanchez
It’s not exploitation if it is consensual you commie faggot.
Connor Adams
Get rid of all the socialism fucking it up.
Dylan Allen
You're right. Communism was tried ad nauseam and failed. Capitalism has now failed as well. It is time to embrace a third position.
Ryder Wright
Closed borders you dumb fuck.
Brandon Martin
You don't. Capitalism is irreparable.
That being said, the christian western tradition will never succumb to the messaging strategy in this meme. Christian westerners are taught from birth that there is always someone worse off than them, no matter how bad their predicament is. The meme there suggests that the worse-off deserve the charity of the better-off. In the christian western mind this will always hint at the fact that even if they are poor, there are poorer people out there coming to take the meager scraps they have presently.
Brandon Reyes
You don't. Capitalism fixes you
Dylan Nelson
Nathaniel Phillips
>It's working fine
Working fine alright
David Reyes
That's literally the definition of exploitation you cockwipe, whether or not it's consensual is irrelevant and ultimately meaningless
>the act of using someone unfairly for your own advantage
Capitalists extra surplus labor from workers, read:
Lincoln Wilson
>Not real capitalism
Yikes!
Why would Aryan billionaires want closed borders?
Jason Hill
Easy. Stop getting in it's way.
Dylan Perry
>filename
Justin Williams
A billionaire still works harder than a nigger
Ethan Diaz
Prosecute wall street and bankers. Put caps on executive salaries (say 20x average company wage). Vote for new politicians. Eliminate PAC donations. Campaign finance reform.
Matthew Rodriguez
Jesus Christ. What? How does the walking dead relate to the text? How does pointing a gun relate to the text. Why is that even a image. Why didn't you just type that and post it?
Lucas Walker
*works harder than you*
Ian Wright
Communism will work this time, it will only take a couple millions of death enemies of the working people to make it work.
James Evans
More important: How do we fix the jew problem?
Julian King
Fascism fixes socialism. Fascism fixes capitalism.
So, Fascism.
Jose Perez
Why would Aryan Billionaires want to see their people murdered? Unlike the jew, the Aryan has a people and a homeland. He can not flee from from one country to the next as an international financier.
Kayden Davis
Good question.
Isaiah Parker
>Why would Aryan billionaires want closed borders?
The irony, it took some 20 years for Americans to catch up with Latin America on being exploited by globalist oligarchs.
Jayden Moore
Fascism is just capitalism in crisis.
Justin Gray
Both of them are full of usury on fake money and worthless frauds. Austrian economics are what's real.
Hudson Anderson
learn to code faggot or do something for your self don’t be exploited
Tyler Long
learn how to manage money/people and stop playing victim
Lucas King
why do you commie faggots love starving
William Wilson
>Zero citation
>Having a smaller percentage of the pie is bad regardless of there being more pie than ever in human history
So much fucking pie that Kings and queens of the past would beg to have the quality of life of the poorest Americans.
Kill yourself commie
Matthew Brown
As a working Canadian I take great offence from your meme.
We pay 46% in taxes all together, i would be so fucking rich if I only had to pay what Americans pay.
Jace Rodriguez
Whats wrong with exploitation? There is literally nothing wrong with exploitation.
>waaaaah its unfair
>waaaaah its unethical
Its unethical to produce a child without its consent. Life is unethical.
Michael Richardson
Because the founders of the Aryan nation will be the survivors of bloody revolution and whites won’t travel halfway across the globe to work for 3$ an hour.
Eli Bell
>will you cut down this tree for ten dollars
thank you for cutting down the tree, here is ten dollars
Zachary Cooper
then why does the state exist
Julian Ross
by taking kikes out of it, of course
Oliver Brooks
well, apparently capitalism knows how to behave when in crisis.
Matthew Young
This makes no sense, an anarchist and a communist would agree the age of consent is oppression.
Xavier Miller
>Why would Aryan Billionaires want to see their people murdered?
Because it's profitable
>Unlike the jew, the Aryan has a people and a homeland. He can not flee from from one country to the next as an international financier.
Why would they put racial interests above their class interests?
Do you really think class interests will dissipate and everyone would start singing kumbaya because their racial interests are fulfilled?
To protect private property rights
Noah Gray
Like this senpai
Michael Myers
>you become rich by acquiring capital
Hunter Parker
More like
>I will contract you to perform labor whose value is equal to 50 dollars per hour
>Your wage however will only be 20 dollars per hour
>I have complete say in what I do with the value you created
Basically GIBS ME DAT
Hudson Nguyen
>This is what cappie bootlickers actually believe
Colton Torres
>cut this tree or you won't be able to feed yourself
BuT yOu CoNseNtEd
Isaac Myers
>To protect private property rights
Isn’t violence more effective because a state infrastructure is subject to many things like taxes, sezure of property, laws (sometimes). wouldn’t anarchy be a better syestem to protect private property
Carter Anderson
The problem with this graphic is the delusion amount of surplus value of your labor.
Aiden Cox
honestly if I had enough money to pay for necessities I would probably be more motivated to get a job.
Right now I'm on disability and it's easier than wageslaving just to pay for rent and food.
But if I go back to work I lose my disability and I'm making only slightly more money but have to sacrifice 5/7 days a week. nah.
Gavin Brown
funny because the left is unironically pro pedophilia
Chase Murphy
Income tax is the usury, it all go to interest on the debt and doesn't actually fund anything
Blake Roberts
Average CEO to worker salary worldwide
12:1
average CEO to worker salary in the united states
500:1
Isaiah Powell
ray dalio, founder of the world's largest hedge fund:
>capitalism as we know it needs to be fundamentally reformed
you, a poorfag retard mutt:
>WOOOOOOOOW LOOK AT THIS COMMIE KEK I CANT BELIEVE YOU THINK ANYTHING IS WRONG IN THE WORLD TODAY LMAO WHAT A KEK ROFL ONLY A COMMUNIST WOULD THINK PROBLEMS EXIST ROFL
Lincoln Perez
Anyone got that graph showing productivity and wages over time?
Gavin Murphy
Josiah Fisher
This entire philosophy could only be derived by someone who's never actually worked or built anything in their life.
A single engineer doesn't will a sky scraper into existence. I mean what even is the definition of "owning" your own labor, the only industry this is a thing are like small artists and small farms, everything else is the culmination of multiple people coming together to reach the end goal.
Eli Watson
Grayson Wood
this is what liberals have made you believe, that rich people don't work hard to be rich, fucking idiot.
Camden Cook
>nah.
Imagine a world in which everyone was like you. Who would build things, make things? Who would repair the power lines after a storm or staff the hospital emergency room?
You can do it user, I believe in you.
Benjamin Edwards
so basically
the youth work much harder than boomers did, but get paid much less for it.
Yet the youth are the lazy ones.
Jackson Campbell
the thing is, this world your talking about is a world where people would do what they want if they wanted to do it. if someone wanted to drive a car in that world, they would make one.
Leo Bell
Read it again you illiterate fuck.
Zachary Howard
We would use the upcoming automaton labor force for our benefit instead of just corporations and stock holders.
Most wagies don't realize as soon as those robots start coming you're out on your ass unless the workers rise up and demand that robots work for everybody, not just the rich.
Hunter Diaz
Any economy fag able to explain what was different during the 70's?
Logan Evans
>>I will contract you to perform labor whose value is equal to 50 dollars per hour
>Your wage however will only be 20 dollars per hour
>I have complete say in what I do with the value you created
here is your $20/hr worked
REEEEEEE YOU EXPLOITED ME