I will not let this get memory hole'd. I don't care if 4pol is all bots these days. I know there are still people here. You MUST KNOW that this happened.
On tuesday, it became illegal for 200,000 citizens of new york to not get vaccinated.
THEY WILL BE FINED AND/OR JAILED FOR NOT RECEIVING AN INJECTION FROM THE STATE.
IT IS NOT LEGAL TO REFUSE THEIR INJECTIONS.
THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT TOPIC AND EVERYONE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT IT.
are vaccines actually bad? i dont think that is yet to be truly established. assuming you're anti vax. if vaccines were good then this law is a good thing because of herd immunity. so i think you have to conclusively prove that vaccines are bad for me personally to have a problem with this. have any good info?
>THATS BESIDES THE POINT YOU FOOL. THE VACCINES COUILD BE PURE H20 AND ITS STILL FUCKING 100% TYRANNY >YOU FOOL i think you need some perspective from the other side in order to form a proper argument. someone who is pro vax wouldnt care if its forced upon us because its a good thing. why should anyone consider this to be bad?
Jason Lee
pretty much THIS
NO ONE is talking about it!
cattle. all of them.
Gabriel Ramirez
We can't force you but we can fine you arbitrary amounts until you comply.. It says it is a jewish area, use the antisemitism card
Connor Bailey
It was established by a numerous coalition of midwestern homeschool mothers with inferiority complexes over several years of intense study of youtube videos and facebook peer-review.
Totally confirmed and totally real!
Wyatt Barnes
op is a kike faggot >In 1905, the Supreme Court ruled that a state can mandate vaccines, and accompany those vaccine mandates with a criminal fine for those not in compliance. More broadly, the court ruled that the state can impose “reasonable regulations” to protect the public health, even when such regulations interfere with individual rights. supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/197/11/
Josiah Wood
youre too fucking low IQ to even hold a conversation. you didnt even read my fucking post.
go fucking expire.
Nicholas Fisher
>op is a kike faggot
you dont deserve to breath you are so god damn retarded.
Isaac Hernandez
they cant inject us with whatever they want. wtf? its only vaccines. you believe if we let them force us to get vaccines they will start giving us microchips to control us or something next? thats why you are against this? the slippery slope thing?
Brody Green
>This tyranny was established before lol so who cares Nigger IQ
Jaxson Nelson
YEha what the fuck is going on with that measles vaccine? Several vaccination drives have been set up here, and they are blaming it all on an "infected Russian national that traveled here"
Jason Young
no, they can JAIL you too.
and they obviously used the small jew neighborhood so idiots like you can say its good because jews.
JEWS POLICE THEMSELVES, THEY WILL NOT BE FORCED TO GET THIS. ONLY GOYS.
Blake Morales
not everyone believes in the slippery slope fallacy either. gain perspective or your arguments just look crazy to the other side
Christian Long
LEAVE.
Grayson Davis
Bump
David Taylor
So this is how democracy dies... with the sound of 1000 smug science worshipers loudly sniffing their own farts.
(Note: I'm not saying vaccines are bad, I'm just saying giving the government - the same government who ran the Tuskegee experiments and MK ULTRA - the right to inject you, and taking away the citizen's right to refuse, if FUCKING RETARDED.)
Angel Perry
This, but by Leave I mean leave my country. You are a waste of oxygen
Isaac Rodriguez
bump
Dylan Edwards
ty great point about Tuskegee ty sir
Chase Johnson
or what? you really doing some gay tough guy act now too? you're insults and threats make you seem like a retard online. if you have no proof that vaccines are bad then i dont care if its mandatory. if they started making vaccines poison in the future after this law then they would have to be held accountable at that time
Levi Stewart
Oh no I wouldn't want THE OTHER SIDE to think I'm crazy. Yano what, just shoot me up with whatever you want, as long as liberals don't think I'm crazy.
Tyler Murphy
>“…the principle of vaccination as a means to prevent the spread of smallpox has been enforced in many States by statutes making the vaccination of children a condition of their right to enter or remain in public schools. Blue v. Beach, 155 Indiana 121; Morris v. City of Columbus, 102 Georgia 792; State v. Hay, 126 N.Car. 999; Abeel v. Clark, 84 California 226; Bissell v. Davidson, 65 Connecticut 18; Hazen v. Strong, 2 Vermont 427; Duffield v. Williamsport School District, 162 Pa.St. 476.”
theses laws exist for reasons
Kevin Brooks
Is this just an area of NYC, or all of NYC or NY State too?
Adrian Evans
Heres the thing... Vaccines have been around forever right? Well actually no, the current vaccinations being used are relatively new to the market and consist of a "cocktail" that covers multiple pathogens all at once. These recent trends in autism/vaccination correlations are pretty much in line with the newest vaccinations on the market. Some motherfuckers are making bank right now and dont really want people talking about shit that could slow that bankroll... like why did they change the fucking vaccination procedure to begin with? why cant you just use the old vaccines? etc, etc.
Xavier Long
Reeeeeee
Carter Sullivan
wouldnt want to inject you with "whatever i want" which happens to prevent you from getting polio. right. im really scared of them doing this to me
Robert Foster
You are so unbelievably moronic that I believe we need a whole new IQ classification to describe the depths of your stupidity.
Just because the government says they will only do X with power Y does not mean X will only be done. Please, think.
>you need to prove a negative in order to not have to be injected with a chemical cocktail >I don't care if they poison us because they'll be held accountable later holy shit I hope you're a literal shill and don't actually believe these things
David Reyes
4 places so far, ~200k people total.
a test run no doubt.
Benjamin Bennett
>no proof that vaccines are bad It's not about you fucking retard. It's about forcing medication on people and jailing those who dont comply. This is absolutely ridiculous.
its completely legal for a state to fine those unwilling to receive a vaccination. read Jacobson v Massachusetts.
Luke Nelson
I'll give you a bump.
David Butler
if you had the ability to see the other sides point of view you would see how dumb your argument sounds. vaccines are not poison. they are the exact opposite of poison
>happens to prevent me from getting polio You do realize polio had effective been eradicated before the vaccine was widely spread, right? You're hurting your own arguement.
Ayden Turner
>fine
or JAIL do you not even fucking READ
Oliver Ramirez
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Jaxon Morales
these are all test runs for the real shit when they gonna order everyone to do some really insane shit. as in "you're ordered to report to labor camps at 0700 each morning, everyone is sign off all their property and assets to the state. anyone who doesn't comply will be shot on sight"
My countrymen are obsequious slaves at this point. Every one of them is a brow-beaten chattle unfitting of the term "american". They will take this and mumble "well vaccines are good so the government can have the power to inject me with whatever chemicals they want!" and "Government good!"
The unquestioning faith in authority is a sign of mental degeneration which is incurable. This country is fucked. If they set up a law which gives the government unrestricted access to your asshole, they'll just say "well colon cancer is bad so they need this for colonoscopies" I have nothing but contempt for you slaves
>are pregnancies actually bad? i dont think that is yet to be truly established. assuming you're anti abortion. if pregnancies were good then this law is a good thing because of population growth. so i think you have to conclusively prove that pregnancies are bad for me personally to have a problem with this. have any good info? Yeah my body my choice! Have sex incel
Jeremiah Hall
Pharmaceutical companies don't market cures, they create treatments. They gain the most money when people remain are sick, but this time, in this one instance, they are doing good.
Charles Smith
bump from ny
Mason Wilson
>all i know is that this has to be the most terrifying law passed on planet earth in my entire life time. It's illegal to question the Hoaxacaust in most of Europe...
Josiah Fisher
fyucking baSED
Noah Green
I don't care of jews are forced vaccinated.
Jose Torres
If it makes you feel better, sure? If a government wanted to inject you with whatever it wants, it wouldn't call it poison, and they wouldn't tell you it's poison. So I guess you'll never know huh? I'm sure the government loves you enough that it wouldn't do that right? I mean they love you enough that they don't care if you get ethnically replaced.
Adrian Ross
its almost as if they used jews neighborhoods first so the "conspiracy" people cant say something bad about it to their groups.
fun fact: orthodox jews in NY have their own police, they can easily opt out and police themselves on this law.
and it doesnt matter who sees the law first, it sets the precedent for EVERYONE ELSE to get the mandatory fluid injection laws in THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
this IS SO FUCKED UP AND 100% NIGHTMARE SCENARIO.
Gabriel Jenkins
I have some stuff I want to inject you with. Should be okay. We haven't proven it's bad so you're going to have to just accept it.
Matthew Flores
It's not about vaccines you nigger. >The government has given itself the right to administer injections of whatever the fuck to the population at large without and taken any legal recourse we may have had.
Dominic Cook
It's so fucked that I'm like a degenerate slut who craves dominant men/being forced to submit, and even ain't as mentally broken as the average citizen in western civilization today. Even I can see how FUCKED this is, and I'm fucking fucked myself haha. Please choke me daddy.
If you're vaccinated against a disease or illness and I'm not, why are you worried? Are you worried that maybe I'll get you sick with the illness you just got vaccinated and are now supposedly protected from? How does that work... Does the vaccine only protect you from normie and left wing persecution on facebook?
accurate gif for my fucking state of mind currently, user.
Chase Wright
More underage kiddos than bots but I get it. It's definitely anti-American and anti-freedom, one could argue that because of mass vaccinations hardier strains mutate to adapt from older iterations of any single virus. Assuming a person already knows that Big Pharma has no interest in curing disease but rather profiting from it, then they should be able to put two-and-two together as to what is happening in this case. New York and Californian cities are shitholes and expensive to boot, despite having no greater amenity than a city 1/100th the size and even less space per person. They're hotbeds of infectious disease but they chose to live there, fuck city people and the liberal scum that keep expanding them.
Oliver Torres
It's kind of like the seatbelt argument. Except in that case you can't argue for a real benefit of not wearing one. Which makes one wonder why make it compulsory at all? The state is protecting its revenue source, that's all. We are chattel slaves and you should accept this truth before doing anything else.
Freedom has always been an illusion.
Anthony Cook
I lol'd too because that's exactly how I would have responded. You're sitting here defending vaccines and then you go and say something as idiotic as vaccines aren't poison they're the opposite. You don't even understand on the most basic level how they work yet you don't mind the government mandating them for your children.
William Scott
your an idiot tool if you think it's ok to just be injected with anything because the state says so.
Ryder Phillips
You shouldn't have to prove something is bad to be free to say, "Nah, I'll pass on having that injected into me." Anti-vaxxers don't prevent the rest of the herd from having herd immunity. The reason they want to force the vaaccines is too many times the vaccinated get sicker than the unvaccinated, which is embarrassing since it proves they offer no herd immunity at all.
Jaxon Ortiz
>Polio was eliminated in the Americas by 1994 >Polio vaccination programs have received resistance from some people in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Nigeria (the three countries as of 2017 with remaining polio cases). Some Muslim religious leaders believe that the vaccines are secretly being used for sterilization of Muslim
Joseph Diaz
Vaccines aren't 100% effective. If I'm one of the 3% of people or so it didn't work on, I'd rather never know than die of measles or pertussis or whatever.
Jason Butler
>This country is fucked. If they set up a law which gives the government unrestricted access to your asshole >if Government already has a right to your asshole thanks to the war on drugs
Gabriel Anderson
reasons yes. But what are those reasons? With the answer to this question you will be welcomed to the desert of the real.
Adrian Gutierrez
Everyone in this thread is too myopic to see how important this issue is. All they have are straw man arguments, absurdist reductions and an inability to separate the specific issue from the principle.
I vaccinated my children. I think they are good. It should without question be your right not to. The government forcing you to get vaccines is tyrannical no matter how beneficial it may be. It opens the door to absurd government control.
I am with you on this.
Christian Adams
Is there any real proof that there is a measles outbreak?