Give me ONE good argument against UBI, I'm waiting.
Give me ONE good argument against UBI, I'm waiting
this
UBI is literally stealing wealth from the God's Chosen
There isn't one
My only real concern about it is if I'll spend more than $1000 on the 10% VAT.
It won’t last
it won't
in france we have this kind of shit (people get money ,don't work everyhting is okay tho,there's a lot of people who are 40's never worked in their lives)
only people who will pay is workers (middle class) so since a lot of people would prefer your 1000$ instead of just working for shittier pay ,you would have millions of people getting it so it will raise taxes on workers and middle class.
Higher taxes.
You obviously still live with your mom, you really think 1000 dollars a month or whatever scrap the goverment gives you is gonna get you a decent life? 1000 dollars in a first world country is just rent, even if you manage to pay rent and eat, there's still water and electricity bill, there's still hobbies, you won't ever be able to fund vydya, or anything you want to do, your existence will be eat bottom of the barrel food without anything else, I can't even believe this is a discussion in the West, your wealth was built with hard work.
Taxation is slavery.
It has ruined the economy in every country it has been implemented in.
>help community
lmao
what planet do you live on where that will be the first thing on everyone's mind, or anyone's mind
people are selfish and only look out for themselves. all that would happen is people will exploit UBI and take as much as they can until it doesn't exist anymore. they won't have any incentive to contribute
That pic is fake as fuck.
>your wealth was built with hard work.
Yes. but it was stolen by sneaky kikes.
>help community the biggest
where tf is the pussy bubble?
haha year right
more like
>give everyone $1000
>rent goes up by $1000
This is why UBI will fail. It creates nothing but inflation. It creates no new wealth. The same people locked out of housing will still be locked out of housing.
I don't want to pay for lazy people(or any people at all), that's a good reason for me
>After Basic Income: SIT ON ASS ALL DAY
give me free money so I can jack off all day
i thought the nz shooting would be the end of you sick cunts
there is no evidence to support that the latter will come if UBI is initiated
France doesn't have UBI, with UBI everyone gets 1000$
Let's address the elephant in the room, if most of the population is on UBI who's gonna pay for UBI, the answer is no one and collapse will follow
Blamp
>Give me ONE good argument against UBI, I'm waiting.
niggers and you know it to be true
>implying they pay taxes
>explain to me why unicorns can't fly me into space
>checkmate
i already get neetbux and all i think about is food porn and weed
This is a retarded argument. I work 60 - 72 hours a week and $1000/month would be like getting an additional 4 dollars per hour raise.
After basic income instead of money to live you will have to worry about inflation.
kek
NEETs already get the equivalent of UBI and they just shitpost here and never do anything with their lives until they kill themselves.
Lul
Anyone with a brain would save the money. That's guaranteed savings.
Because your a fucking parasite. Go get a job. Why the fuck should i have to pay for you to do nothing? You know they tried this with about 100 very low income people (some were even homeless). And I remember seeing on the news how they found one of the guys and went to interview him. And the motherfucker was still wearing the same shit, coming back from the liquor store with like 2 bags of fucking booze. You probably wont move out of your moms basement with 1000 bucks a month desu.
Arguement #1 fuck you and fuck your commiemunity
somebody has to pay for it
>reply to this post
>or you
>dies in
>mother
>her sleep
>tonight
>Give me ONE good argument against UBI, I'm waiting.
It does nothing to address the underlying problems with capitalism and only empowers corporations even further
Everyone has $1000 extra to spend, at the government's expense, on rent and at Walmart
>dont get $1000 a month
>rent goes up anyways
Inflation cancelling out the 1000
If you do not know or want to make money and your parents are too much a lazy lots to raise you and give you means to survive, then humanity will be better off without you in the gene pool.
Lazy fucks won’t work
>2 Thessalonians 3 (NKJV)
>10 For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat.
Inflation kills savings, nigger.
Shut the fuck up, christcuck
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When will you YangGang2020 'polling-in-last place' total RETARDS worse-than-ChristCucks get it into your THICK useless skulls that you ain't getting no neet bux - it's never gonna happen even in your wildest dreams!! So fuck off YangBangers and get job!
>Thinking people care that much about their community
>Implying needing to work for a living prevents you from having long term goals
Shut the fuck up, christcuck
People with skills will stop working, in droves.
Either society will collapse or wages will go up to get them back to work.
If wages go up, then the value of the UBI goes down, and then it's like it isn't there at all.
Why are communists so bad at convincing white people to buy into their bullshit?
wow this is powerful
if people you would need to tax to remove the "to live" problem got to choose how you live (i.e. you get government housing, you get government furniture, you get government cheese, you get government all your decisions about "living" made for you, would you take it?
if not then you don't really mean it.
Inflation. Literally it's the only argument needed
Andrew plz go
Get a job you hippie.
>what does a police-free world look like?
Based
>go get a job
I get like 700$ in NEETbux a month. Please tell me why any sane person would sacrifice their days working for marginally more in this shithole country.
On behalf of I thank you sir
>pic
And that's a good thing!
>GROW WEED
Because that picture is bullshit.
it delays the collapse of capitalism
So basically it's one less thing you have to worry about.
What about those who benefit and make all the profit from ai?
niggers
None whatsoever
People with skill wont stop working
Politicians will fuck it up and make things worse. You think UBI means something very specific. But they’ll just pass some shitty new policy that has some very critical differences from what you have in mind and they will call it UBI. They do this with literally everything. Affordable care act, net neutrality, whistle blower protection, etc.
>Help community
Yeah no that's not even on my list.
More guns
More cars
More booze
More time to make my own guns
More time to work on my cars
More time to make and then drink my own booze
Isnt inflation when the government prints more money and so devalues the currency? Yang’s plan is to tax v.a.t. to the companies that profit from a.i. and automatization and stop all other welfare program, then use the normal taxes that all the spending the dividend is going to bring. No new money is going to get made so no inflation
>and they will call it UBI
they do this with everything because under capitalism it is the capitalist class who controls the government, not the people.
rpealce community with
>drugs
and every other bubble with
>finding more drugs
then youre done.
people use drugs to escape the worries of insecurity
Yes commies totally don’t do this. Read 1984 if you are really that retarded.
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why would you keep working if your work now counts less than it did before, since everyone gets money for doing nothing?
market dictates shortage or hike, either they stop working, and demand takes over shortage of supply, or supply prices take over hike, reducing demand and thus increasing overall the prices of services/goods, shrinking demand until equilibrium.
The latter is much less viable in a free market, but is almost exclusively how highly unionized fields will force things to go
The relative reward system which gauges output and energy expenditure based upon historical attainment of rewards. Getting rewards for nothing makes all animals less inclined to perform tasks. This is why captive animals seldom survive in the wild. This is why welfare has decreased productivity in every community which disproportionately receives it. This is why UBI will cause civilization to collapse due to a psychological break with reality.
The entire economy depends on there being a large pool of desperate, dependent slaves willing to do a lot for the ruling caste for almost nothing.
With UBI that pool disappears and the economy that runs on their labor collapses.
The only people obsessed with making money are poor people who work low wage jobs. If you have an actually good job that pays well you don't think about money so much. I check my bank account now and then to make sure there's no payment issues, but I'm not worried about running out of money, my rent is less than 20% of my monthly income and I have no gf or any other huge money sink in my life.
I have a lot of free time. I spend it shitpoting on Jow Forums, playing video games, reading books, writing erotica, watching anime, and jacking it to loli porn.
i would say boredom, which UBI would worsen
It's a right-wing scheme to stick a band-aid solution over the destructive force of Capitalism to keep wagies surviving and consuming until they're able to automate everything, at which point most of the population will be annhilated, leaving everything to a select group of the richest people on the planet who don't even know what Jow Forums is because they don't need to interact with regular humans.
If UBI gets implemented and accepted before a Communist revolution, you know we're all fucked.
>that pic
lmao replace everything there with porn and food.
Imagine being this delusional.
ABI should show enjoyment filling at least 80% of the headspace.
Meet people should be tiny. Long term goals too. Innovate would be absent in most people's minds. Almost no humans are genuinely innovative.
Mongrel mindset. Good job, Zhrek.
>1984
was about fascism, it was written by a communist
boredom is good though, it was bored aristocrats that did much of the early modern science. They were basically just dicking around to kill time because natural philosophy was the hot new meme. Providing people with as much free time as possible and the means to actually do stuff with this free time is in the interest of the progression of civilization.
yes, but this just ilustrates why it is important to ensure everyone have this kind of security.
its about security, not money. insecurity is harmful to people and societies. Capitalists want UBI, socialists want to build commieblocks. Same objective in mind.
this graph is correct
after UBI, no one will ever have any hope of acquiring money to live and will convince themselves not the think about it to save them from the pain
Unless we have a global reset/end the corruption- the devaluation of every fiat currency in our current economic system... Leading to you one day dropping your thousand dollars in the street like it's garbage like in Venezuela
>Give me ONE good argument against UBI, I'm waiting.
The devaluation of the American Dollar.
Hope I didn't keep you waiting long.
Inflation.
Dependency.
Economic collapse.
are you retarded? you dont think the super rich do pure coke? drink wormwood? give hookers molly and eat ecstasy? yea maybe a hand full of hundreds will make people find God. fuck you for baiting me you god damn shill.
For a year. Then the economy implodes and everyone makes 0$. You filthy animal.
Not specifically inflation, but the tax will cause the prices to increase. This higher cost will be passed to consumers, creating a very similar effect as inflation
Without UBI the economy will collapse. There just aren't that many jobs once automation and AI takes off.
Yeah that's the most faggotty diagram ever