Hello, It's very late, so I'm going to keep this short. I need some help/advice.
I'm currently in a fraternity and one of my brothers, or what I thought was, is going to graduate at the end of this semester.
So, I've always had a strong voice on campus/in the fraternity about conspiracies. And these aren't your normal conspiracies. I talk a lot about the illuminate and other NWO conspiracies.
Anyways, everyone, for the most part, is fairly accepting of these things and generally interested; I've never met someone who's told me to stop talking or threatened me.
Anyways, this fraternity brother has been acting strange over the past few months. And lately, he straight up told me I need to stop talking about a few of these conspiracies for my own good. Also he's said that I should stop talking about them for my own safety.
And I've been really worried about this and had no explanation why. Because for the past few years, he's always been really engaged with these theories and always wants to know more. But last week I found out he's a mason. Yeah, like an actual freemason. He straight up admitted it to me a couple of days ago, and now it's really freaking me out. He's not directly making threats to me, but he's said that I need to stop talking about them for my safety and he's dead serious about it.
Anyways, what should I do about this? Should I cut off all connections with him or what?
That's what I told him. But this shit is starting to freak me out. He straight up told me I need to stop talking about this kind of stuff for my safety.
I want to educate him on all the crazy shit they're about, like satanism, but he's into that stuff.
Jaxson Cooper
You're freaked out because Satan is moral and you aren't
Michael Stewart
Satan gonna fuck you up
Parker Long
Tell him for his own safety he should cut all his masonic ties unless he wants to be a zog-agent and inevitably become involved in gay and or pedo shit(if it hasn't happened already).
Tell him he's a fucking cuck for being part of such a corrupt, degenerate and jewish organization.
Tell him to lick your two balls and cane and that Hiram is a fucking loser cuck.
Adrian Flores
Satan gonna fuck you up
Cameron Phillips
Satan is a title not an entity you fucking imbecile.
Get a cattle prodding device and pepper-spray for protection. Then you start watching him and tracking him. Buy one of those stealth GPS tracking devices. Follow him. Find out what he's up to on Thursday evenings, that's a special day for child fuckers.
And I'm getting in contact with someone I know who's family runs deep into masonry. He's not a part of it, but knows what it's all about. I'm going to ask him what I should do.
And this guy, who's the mason, is easily manipulated. I have no idea what he's already told them about me.
Gavin Reed
piss on him to assert dominance
Jeremiah Price
>inevitably become involved in gay and pedo shit Have you ever actually met Freemasons? I'm guessing not.
OP, calm down my guy. He's probably coming at you with genuine concern for your well being, since most normies see obsession over conspiracy theories - especially yours - as delusional and unhealthy.
Just don't talk to him about your theories anymore. He's not gonna fucking transmute into a demon or some shit.
And quit talking to normies about this shit in general. If you wanna be even moderately successful in the real world, at least.
Ian Collins
he's probably just fucking with you or maybe he's just saying he's sick of hearing about it and he's going to kick your ass if you don't stfu. Maybe all the other guys in the fraternity are planning on kicking your ass because they're tired of you talking about it all the time
Bentley Sanders
2/10
Landon Reyes
I will stop talking to him about them.
But that's not really my concern. Like I said, I have a strong voice on campus about these kinds of things. And I run a fairly large students group about them. The campus I'm on, with a population of 40,000+, know about me and my club. I don't know what he's circulating back to his mason fag friends.
Mason Martin
Not at all. The guys like talking to me about these kinds of things. They're very encouraging
Juan Myers
>I have a strong voice on campus about these things >They're very encouraging Then they're just fucking with you because you're a well-known autistic, and your one buddy is just getting fed up with it. Quit being fucking autistic and the problem solves itself, user.
Anthony Long
keep it up and see what happens. would be pretty neat to have it vindicated by them fucking with you
Nathaniel Kelly
no bro more autism is required. fearless autism
William Parker
Imagine being such a loser like you.
Buddy, you probably can't speak in front of 10 people
Blake Robinson
Them as in that mason guy?
Christopher Martinez
Imagine working fo Tavistock lol you fucking creep
Hahaha for sure. Hopefully I can dig deeper into his masonry connections. He's quite messy, so I've already stumbled upon some of the paper work.
It's crazy, from what I've found, there are so many satanic references
Nolan Nguyen
I got to school in the states. but what scares me is that I go to an Ivy league school. There's a lot of talk on campus about secret societies and their recruitment of students
yeah I wouldnt worry a whole lot, but just keep frosty is all. ive thought about doing some investigating of my own but im a little freaked about doing it and the tactics ive thought up might be dangerous and lead to unsavory shit.
i have thought of contacting marinas, docks, retired and active police, homeless shelters, gay bars and clubs, and other seedy places about any strange stories or sights to see if i can get some leads on the elite pedos and cults.
problem is i dont have the nous for that shit and am not very subtle. afraid id start vomiting up black shit like that one conspiracy investigator in poland
Owen Gomez
ahhaha that's true. Thanks for the advice. I made sure to take pictures of all the shit I've stumbled upon. There's a whole lot of references to the builder of the universe.
Ryder Anderson
Who loathes you
Jackson Flores
typical deist/masonic lingo. problem is that is another word for demiurge. and the sick fucks on top are gnostic luciferians who believe God is evil and lucifer/prometheus is good. blasphemous monsters
masons were infiltrated long ago. read john robison's proofs of a conspiracy. its from the early 1800s you can get it for free online. the guy was a naturalist and was a mason, but started discovering how fucked it was, particularly in france at that time.
all of the revolutions of the 18th and 19th century were instigated by them. America, France, Italy, Turkey, as well as the ones in South America.
>read john robison's proofs of a conspiracy Where he writes well after the fact about an event he wasn't present for, and is contradicted by actual evidence.
Aiden Nelson
but he was present during much of it, and most of his info came from solid sources inside a few of the lodges he was talking about. i havent seen any "evidence" contradicting him. id be happy to see this evidence.
could you provide it for me bud?
you a mason, btw?
Ryan Campbell
>but he was present during much of it No, he was in Scotland. >and most of his info came from solid sources inside a few of the lodges he was talking about Which only he was privy to. Very convenient, huh? >i havent seen any "evidence" contradicting him Well for one thing, the revolution outlawed masonry, because it supported the ancien regime.
Benjamin Anderson
i meant he was present during the major events happening at the time not in every lodge meeting you goof. also freemasonry largely started as we know it in scotland, at least the kinds that are seemingly more harmless.
which lodges? remember this is a time when most lodges were only loosely affiliated and there were atrempts at illuminating lodges by infiltrators and revolutionaries. yes but most of the jacobins were masons or former masons. ialso masonry was hugely important in the founding of the italian republic and subversion of Catholicism. also the young turks were filled with masons and masonry was important to the turkish revolution
same with America. same with Brazil, etc...
Kevin Anderson
>i meant he was present during the major events happening at the time In that he was alive in the world? Sure. But he wasn't in France where it actually happened. > also freemasonry largely started as we know it in scotland So? That was two hundred years prior. And it's a big maybe. We might have just lost the English records in 1666. >yes but most of the jacobins were masons or former masons >most Some were, but French Masonry at the time was very exclusionary and elitist. >masonry was hugely important in the founding of the italian republic and subversion of Catholicism Do you mean the Italian kingdom? And why would Catholics want to subvert themselves?
Robert James
i dont think you realize what damage masonry has done and how important it was in hiding and growing revolution. how many lodges were illuminated to push the global revolution along.
the carbonari was masonic bro, and were tied intimately to the creation of the republic and subverting the church. the alta vendita is a real document bro, though i get the sneaking suspicion youd even question that, and that you frequent rationalwiki.
the other answers dont even need replies as its just pilpul.
Jacob Reyes
How many lodges were "illumined" then? Do you have a list of them? And what exactly that change means. Like, do you have the minutes of meetings before/after to demonstrate it? >the carbonari was masonic bro No, they were Carbonari. Masons don't get credit for what the Elks or Orangemen do, just because they saw it as a neat basis for their entirely separate groups. >and were tied intimately to the creation of the republic Again, I think you mean the united kingdom at this juncture. That's the normal conspiracy. Otherwise you'd be saying that Mussolini, who was famously anti-Masonic, was in on it. >and subverting the church How? And again, why would Catholics shoot themselves in the foot? >the alta vendita is a real document bro In that a book called that does indeed exist, sure. But i think we can both accept that only someone braindead (and hasn't actually investigated it) would accept it at face value. >and that you frequent rationalwiki. Nah, isn't that just a shitty spinoff of ED? >the other answers dont even need replies as its just pilpul. What does that mean? Too hard for you to answer, or that you know they hurt your argument?
Jayden Nelson
you answer shit in an oblique way which is pretty weaselly. the carbonari was fucking masonic bro.there were tonnes of masonic lodges that later the masons disavowed and said they werent masons. to compare the carbonari with the elks is intellectually dishonest.
garibaldi was a mason and mazzini was carbonari and there was interplay between both secret societies. and many of the political groups in that time were covers for masonry just like the jacobin reading clubs of the french revolution. what does mussolini have to do with anything?
the alta vendita isnt fake. also more pontifical tracts were written on condemning masonry than any other group. dont get your weird statements there.
Liam Fisher
>the carbonari was fucking masonic bro In the same way the Elks, Orangemen, and Freegardeners are, sure. That is to say, based off the structure, but entirely separate themselves. It's intellectually dishonest to blame or credit one group for the actions of another, just because they look similar, or even have a crossover of members. > and there was interplay between both secret societies Neither were/are really secret, though. And that's fine if you can prove it. But it would mean proving actual organisational collusion (minutes, resolutions, votes, and other records), rather than a couple of dudes pursuing their own agenda and they happen to belong to some random groups. >what does mussolini have to do with anything? Because the Italian Republic didn't happen until after his death. I knew you had your events backwards. Maybe you need to actually do some research and it'll allay your concerns? >the alta vendita isnt fake. I didn't say it was. It certainly exists. But that doesn't mean it's a genuine record of the events it describes, rather than being an invention to implicate the groups the author dislikes. >also more pontifical tracts were written on condemning masonry than any other group So? If they were based on any truth, that might have impact. But it was all political.
Juan Edwards
You need to kill him and consecrate the body. Take a magic resistance potion with you as he has projectile attacks.
there was interplay, wrong republic, and no it was not made as propaganda
Jaxon Gutierrez
>there was interplay Of private members? Yea, no doubt. But anything more requires more proof, like i said. >wrong republic, No worries bro, a lot of people make the mistake for some reason. >and no it was not made as propaganda Do you have the provenance to prove it? Like, corroborating documents?
Wyatt Diaz
no but ill look into it.
Jaxson Cooper
Encouraging research and greater knowledge is the best thing one can hope for. Enjoy.