Gf wants to break up because I watch porn

she says watching porn is like cheating. I am not sure if I should try to talk this out or just be glad that she wants to leave me alone?
It's not like I'm addicted or something. I jerk off to some random porn movie maybe every second week because I love her and we have sex constantly. we even do the butt stuff whenever I want and I can cum in her face to make her happy. well at least until now...

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only read first 2 sentences. Shes a dummy, let her leave and find a hot gf who wants to watch porn with you.

whats the point of the Porno if u can just have sex instead.
porno waste of your time whatever guess you break up with her if you really like porno for some reason. sounds like you already made up your mind to me imo.

Your girlfriend is insecure as fuuuuuuuck. Let her go. She's gonna have a hell of a hard time finding a man that doesn't look at porn - because we all do. Anyone who says they don't is a fucking liar and is probably bad in bed.

you're not supposed to watch porn if you have a gf

got urges? fuck your gf.
need to jack off? get ur gf to do it

Porn is cancer, the more you start to understand why the faster you will let go of it.
imagine sitting there with your dick in your hand and watching some chick getting fucked by a dude or multiple dudes. This makes you a cuck.

>It's not like I'm addicted
Then why can't you stop?
I have studied porn for many years and while there has been changes, the change is slow and almost non-existent.
Why not take a break from it for a if it makes her insecure?
You said you have sex all the time, so it is not like you don't have other options.

gf or not, how do you get off on porn knowing that half of the women are sex trafficked or drugged into it and the other half are miserable? Even amateur porn supports the same sites and organizations herding women like sex cattle. Its too depressing to jerk off to.

also I really hope you're ok with your gf orgasming to handsome men. she needs to cum too.

why do you need porn when gf is being so good to you?

>need to jack off? get ur gf to do it
What if me and my gf are seperated for some time? One of us has stuff to do for the week(end) or something?
Inb4
>just hold out
Seems unreasonable desu. Also, what if one is super horny, and the other just wants to sleep? The first wants to sleep in the end too, so why deny him a shortcut?

T. Single.
Yeah, that level of micro-control over your life seems like a red flag. Be glad she fired it up early and apologize that you weren't the one and wish her well in the future then find a grill who isn't prude city.

>all these incel answers
are you people dense? how would you feel if you found your gf (if you had one) rubbing herself while watching other men? watch porn, but dont tell her you do idiot.

Watching porn isn't really cheating, but it's definitely 'emotional cheating'. Think of it like this: how would you feel if you knew your girlfriend fantasizes and masturbates to the fantasy of fucking other guys than you? Does that thought make you feel cheated on?

I don't think watching porn is either bad or good. It depends entirely on your own opinion.

Why do you assume nobody's been in that situation, and why do you assume your standards matter?

This. Used to think it was silly for a girl to have a problem with porn, but then when I thought about it, I would be incredibly upset if instead of fantasizing about me she was thinking of some pornstar or a random redditor in those "post a naked pic of you" subreddits.

>says watching porn is like cheating
find a girl who isn't asexual

dont @ me incel. focus on unfucking yourself so maybe one day you will understand relationship dynamics

In every couple i know, both memebers watch porn and dont give a fuck cause theyre not insecure micromanaging faggots

I've been in a happy relationship for eight years.
She lets me put it in her butt, so I'm not really feeling all that broken up.

Once more, I'm dying to know why-- besides spitting poorly constructed insults everywhere like some sort of turbosperg-- your standards matter or why you think they do.

Unrelated but,
This photo is weirdly creepy and inhuman but I still want to stare at it. It's giving me weird feeling.

Just say "no it is not". Women are not to be reasoned with. Believe me. They are not logical or moral creatures. They have to learn that what comes to you naturally. Their primary instincts only take note of domination in a relationship.

You don't explain her ass anything. You are a man, you do whatever you want to do. She'll freak out, but after a couple of days of being furious she will like you more bacuse you showed who is the boss.

If you want to watch porn, you watch porn.

guy from pol here
porn is degenerate
it is a drug that destroys the nuclear family.
a drug that makes you lose interest in your gf

it fucks up your hormones

girls do not like drug addicts with low testosterone

i did nofap since december, but hat two fallbacks, one was actually today.

still didn't fap to porn though.
it fucks with your mind. porn is promoted by jews and the funny thing is that masturbation is forbidden in judaism.

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For me it feels like when the man watches porn it's because he wants something that his woman doesn't have. You're basically rejecting her in her mind. The only thing women can ultimately always do to help their man is get his cum on her. You are taking her only job and doing it yourself, therefore insulting her and insinuating you would be fine without her (which you may well be) but she doesn't want to be told that.

another dude here but not from pol (i guess i'm considered a normie?) that agrees with this wholeheartedly.

i fucked up my first relationship by watching porn. part of the appeal of my girlfriend was that she was attractive and i could fuck her, but sometimes she didn't want to do it (even though we were still having sex at least twice a week) so instead of waiting and looking forward to when that time finally did come, i just rubbed one out. eventually it became a habit and i stopped trying to seduce my girlfriend or show affection, which in turn turned her off, which in turn made porn an easier choice because it was continent and i didn't have to try anymore. we dated for 7 years and she was total wife material. i wanted to put a ring on her finger and still think about her to this day.

ironically enough i had a similar situation happen to me with the roles reversed, and as you can imagine that relationship didn't last very long at all.

so yeah, porn ruins relationships. go figure.

>continent
*convenient

auto correct sucks

it's an imbalance she's trying to apply the leverage she has on

>watch porn
>sexual replacement (devalues her)
>not an emotional replacement (can't substitute her)

the solution is obvious: start flirting with other women and let your gf win you over
>threat of real sexual replacement
>threat of real emotional replacement

Lmao, have you ever been in a relationship?
You don't get pussy daily in any relationship.
There's times when your girl will just tell you that she doesn't want to have sex and that's that. You're left with blue balls and a hurt ego.
Especially if you've got a high libido.

Also nobody should have the right to tell you not to touch your junk.
Like bitch, my hand's been there for me longer than you ever will.

that is what the jew wants. a low fertility rate for porn watchers.

men not craving for their wives, but for watching their ads.

There you go, we both watch porn and my relationship is sinking because no amount of self improvement I undertake seems to inspire my girlfriend to do any such improvement herself.

She's definitely insecure as hell.

There's more reasons to watch porn and masturbate than just 'lol horny why not fuck gf?"

Who doesn't enjoy some private time to explore their body on their own? Masturbation/solo sex/exploration is still valuable, even in a relationship.

Sometimes, its just mentally relaxing. You don't have to be concerned about your partner for a bit. You don't have to worry about their presence. You can take a break from focusing on their pleasure. You can just take some good, old-fashioned you-time. Take a nap after.

Even people in relationships still appreciate alone time.

I was just about to say this. Although I'd disagree on the usage of porn with masturbation. You should be able to have an 'alone time' with just your mind and body. Exposing yourself to porn could just lead you on to a superficial state of over indulgence. Especially when it comes to the availability as well as the amount possible on the web.

Hah, typical case of
>we had lots of sex in the beginning, but it came to a stop after some time
And the funniest part is that you blame yourself for your girl being sexually incompatible with you, and not wanting to randomly pleasure and seduce you.
Look mate, sex isn't just a one way road. If you aren't a complete failure, then you would know that a woman giving you pussy isn't giving you some ultimate blessing or whatever.
If your girl doesn't respect your needs, then it's not your fault for rubbing one out.

And that absolutely can be a concern. Porn can desensitize some people to ordinary sex to a problematic degree; porn can also definitely become a distraction, or a crutch.

But like all other things, its a matte of whether or not its manifested as a problem for that individual. 75% of heroin users have non-problematic use that does not interfere with other aspects of their life, to the point where most close friends and family have no idea. Similarly, most people can occasionally - or even semiregularly - watch some porn with no significant issues. Some people will end up watching porn compulsively, however, or allow the porn to cause other problems for them.

dude that porn ruined his life here.

i get what you're saying, i mean i do it too, but just without the porn. i don't really understand the concept anymore on why i need porn to explore my own body. masturbation and porn are not mutually exclusive, and in fact they're probably the exact opposite.

i've seen someone bring up primal urges in this thread and i'd really like to know how porn is a part of that primal urge.

You're implying that beating my meat will make me not have sex with my gf.
And you're implying that lots of sex in the age of birth control somehow equals to lots of babies.
Sorry mate, it's not as simple anymore.

i mean she was still giving me sex at least twice a week further along into our relationship until i started denying her because porn was just easier and more convenient.

i don't put women on a pedestal, but i don't put myself on one either. it took a lot of time and courage to admit that i'm the one who fucked up my relationship and the fact that you're trying to spin it like it's her fault when you know absolutely nothing other than what i've already told you is really telling.

but by all means senpai, go off.

no, not lots of sex, but doing things you do not like to do for getting pussy.

men did do ridiculous amounts of work, just to get pussy. if a man can easily get orgasms that feel even better than sex and are more addictive than sex, why should a man take a women's bs ?

also you're missing the difference between rubbing one out and rubbing one out to porn.

For the vast majority of people, its just a question of "why not"?

also look at the fertility rate of jews in israel (3.1) or the fertility rate of muslims (2.6). In both religions masturbation is forbidden.

now look at the fertility rate of christians. (i cannot remember the exact number, but it is the lowest.)

If your chick would've put some work in, then porn wouldn't be "easier and more convenient".
If thots getting dicked in front of a camera were more appealing and easier to get off to, then shit man, your chick had bad game.

Do you really, really think that porn and masturbation make up the entire difference?

I would much more rapidly ascribe it to socioeconomic issues; educated individuals in well-developed countries tend to have fewer children. Many middle-class, less-wealthy people in well-developed countries also choose to not have children for economic reasons. In these countries, birth control is also available enough for this to be practical.

In less-developed, more poor areas, having many children is an effective way of ensuring support in old age, and producing enough helping hands to perform labor; incentivizing high birth rates.

How available is birth control in muslim counties? How does the culture surrounding large families differ? Is there more pressure to reproduce as much as possible?

Bro, we're not in the XIXth century anymore.
I have women at work lined up wanting to get pounded by me.
If you have to move mountains just to get your dick wet, then you already lost at the game of life.
Pussy is easy as fuck to get nowadays, especially since social media made people shameless about being whores.

No difference to me. You beat your meat, cum, clean up and forget about it.
If it impacts your life, then you have deeper issues than just being addicted to porn.

Why should I care about birth rates? I live in a 99,8% homogenous country.

have sex

>after a year of therapy come to the conclusion that i was being a fucking dickhead to my girlfriend because i personally just didn't want to try anymore, probably some unchecked depression or some shit, etc etc
>ur chick just had bad game bro!!

yeah this conversation is over lol

if you aren't addicted, you should have no problem quitting porn. It's real simple.

If your girl didn't have bad game and had sex more often with you, you wouldn't look for a substitute in porn.
Lmao, you just don't want to admit that you pulled a shit chick that didn't do shit to work your dick.
Next time find someone that actually puts work and time into having sex with you instead of giving you mental issues.

>implying we didn't have sex often
>implying the reason why we didn't have sex even more often is somehow her fault even though the reason was based off my own actions
>implying she gave me mental issues and they weren't already there from a poor childhood
>implying she's not the one who helped me with them
>still implying that it's somehow solely her fault and is in no way, shape or form mine too

damn bro the reach is insane. you're so adamant on making me believe it's her fault and for what reason? is the prospect that maybe it's my fault as a man somehow unfathomable to you? sorry bucko, but it's not always the woman's fault.

next i'd like you to justify how it's her fault that i cheated on her and how i totally shouldn't feel like shit for it.

You just got trolle

Everyone stop ffeeding torlls pls

I just baited you into laying down and saying that you're a miserable piece of shit, and explaining why.
Good job.
>inb4 - "hurrr just pretending to be retarded"
Not this time, bucky.

The only thing that's left is for you to say that you're an advocate for nofap.

I'm going to try and give you the best advice I can give:
1. If you want her to stay, tell her it's none of her goddamned business if you watch porn. You're a man, and if you want to watch pornography, you will.
2. If you want her to leave, then tell her that you want her to leave.
The takeaway here is that you really shouldn't let her dictate what you do. I made that mistake once, and essentially ended hating her and hating myself, and hating the whole situation, simply because I let her have command over something that she shouldn't have command over. It was my responsibility to make sure she wasn't stupid and try to rule over me, just like it's yours not to let her be like that to you.

you dont need porn to masturbate just pretend youre fucking your wife and later she'd get horny when you tell her about it

The only reason I ever watched porn while I was in a relationship was because it was ironic or I wanted ideas

>hUrR dUrR troll!!
>get baited!!

why is everyone on this site a fucking socially inept moron?

congratulations, you made me say something i have no problem admitting and i don't feel baited in the slightest. i'm not an advocate for no fap, and personally idgaf if someone wants to watch porn or not. i'm just saying to op, from my experience, it wasn't worth it because i fucked up a relationship with a wonderful woman. this is a common issue amongst men for a reason. if someone can learn from my mistake then that's fucking fantastic.

FUCKING COPE

HOLY SHIT YOU GOT BTFO'D

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>if someone can learn from my mistake
I gonna be honest with you and tell you that nobody is going to learn anything from your story. Reason being that this whole board is 90% trolls. Nobody should take any advice from this “advice” board since it’s all shit. Hell I bet you that none of the people in this thread has ever even had a relationship. Your story falls on deaf ears, and your time would have been better spent somewhere else.

>should i break up with someone who wants to control how do i discharge my libido?

If she's young maybe you can try to talk it out, it's up to you. Talking it out or breaking up are both understandable options, you can choose either and nobody would consider it that unreasonable. If she's over 25ish though, no excuse, she should know better.

Sex is great but masturbation still has a place in someone's life even if they have a partner. The drawbacks of sex are that while it feels really good it's also a performance for the partner, especially if you're a man. Fucking your hand isn't as good as fucking a wet pussy, but at least you can totally focus on yourself with complete control. No thinking if you're fucking too hard or too soft, is this position working, you're getting kind of tired from the thrusting but she's close, or you're getting close but she isn't so you have to hold back without stopping completely etc. etc. No. Just you and your dick. Every man deserves that, because being the active partner in sex is, in a way, work. I think a lot of girls really don't understand this, it's why they freak out so much if you start going soft.

Porn is optional but virtually everyone will agree jerking off is way easier with porn, absolute no brainer.

See, I just proved that your problem wasn't excessive masturbation.
Your problem was being a thin-skinned paranoid little bitch.

Well, that and your poor choice of women, obviously. You can't deny those chicks gave you too much space to think about masturbation, since they weren't putting out enough.

You're right, but wrong.
Nobody will learn from his example because nobody really cares about his existence, his choices, his problems, etc.
Everybody got their own problems.

My boyfriend watches porn (but he doesn't know that I know), and although I wouldn't equate it to cheating, it definitely hurts my feelings. I haven't mentioned it to him because I feel like it'd put unnecessary strain on the relationship. Ironically enough, he said he'd feel awful and "cheated" if I watched porn. I don't, but that really puts things into perspective. The relationship is still fairly new so I'm contemplating on whether or not this is a red flag and I should just break up with him. My suggestion is to have a talk with her, but if her mind is already made up there's really nothing you can do.

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But why does it hurt your feelings? You understand the need to masturbate I'm guessing, and understand porn makes it easier. Does his attention on porn stars make you feel inadequate or unattractive?

He's jacking his meat to porn because you don't have sex with him often enough.
How many fucking times do I have to tell bitches:
RANDOM BLOWJOBS
It's all a man needs to make his day better.

It's only after you satisfy him and let him know that he can rely on you for his sexual desires that he will stop touching his donger behind your back.

And here I am with a wife that lets me fuck hookers (I don't because I hate wasting money)

Hot

she's delusional, and obviously understands nothing about men. She's going to have a rough time.

If I can help with your young relationship, I can offer you some perspective. I've been married for several years now (Actually forgot about Jow Forums since being married till tonight, bout of insomnia). What says is correct, random sex/blowjobs/handjobs, HELP. Over our 5 years of marriage, like most relationships, it has had its ups and downs, a lot relating to sex. I've done a lot of blaming her and a lot of blaming myself. But, our relationship is definitely on an up right now after a few months of couples counseling and getting all our own personal issues into the light.

I wouldn't say him watching porn if a reason to break up, but is an issue that may need work. Once we got married, I didn't watch porn, I didn't need it, we had regular sex. After after the 1st year, the amount of sex declined, as in most marriages. I tried harder, flirting, romance, etc, but it didn't help. I got frustrate, so I turned to porn and stopped bothering my wife about sex. However, as others have noted here, my wife then grew frustrated with me for showing a lack of interest in her. Round and round this circle went for a few years in a cycle.

I've noticed the more frequent we have sex, the less, if at all, I desire to watch porn. Half is knowing my wife is into me and boost my self esteem (Which in turns gives less reason to fantasize), the other half is just having those damn urges satisfied. I've explained to her, that sometimes I want sex out of love, and sometimes I just need it to be "over" the urge, a quickie, handie, or blow job will do for those and any linger desire to watch porn is gone. We've come to a compromise, I tell her when I needs this, and it's taken care of. On the flip, she tells me when she needs her sexual desires fulfilled (Hour-long BDSM), and her own urges to watch porn decrease. It's a compromise, and understanding of ourselves and our needs, and it works. We're both happier. Communication and understanding is key for this though.