Can you explain to me how welfare is bad?

Too much lazy niggas and the economic actually shrinks (they are earning less, producing less and consuming less).

Government debt = private assets + net imports. Conservatives are literally shilling against the private sector having stuff.

Your nose is showing.

>Real value must be produced
For whom? For some jackass in Seattle? That's slavery.

God
For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
2 Thess 3:10

because tax dollars come from government. the government doesnt just have that money. they take it by force from people like me who put our time, talent, energy, and money into training and work.

also, when you subsidize anything, you get more of it. who wants more bums, really?

You and I both know you are shitposting, aussie. Go see a shaman to rid yourself of evil spirits.

It causes families to fall apart and women to become married to the fed. 75% of black mother are single moms.

Meme post but in a country as diverse as America, when you increase welfare you decrease labor participation. If someone like Bernie or Yang had their way, the country would collapse within a couple years due to hyperinflation and the tax base vanishing.

The way the work requirements are set up for foodstamp recipients make it so they have to take any reasonable job offer and are not allowed to quit without food cause. What happens is that they get stuck on the working poor hamster wheel and end up on food stamps for years.

Also since an able bodied adult with no dependents is only eligible for 60 months total until they are 55 and since people caring for children under 6 are exempt from work requirements it makes having kids an incentive that helps people stay eligible for benefits.

Also due to birthright citizenship a child born in U.S. Soil is eligible for snap benefits from the day they return home from the hospital. So a lot of illegals will simply visit the county hospital across the border apply for emergency medicaid for the child's delivery, and use the child's snap benefits to.subsidize their illegal under the table income.

Immigration, over-population, single motherhood, stifling unskilled labor's wage growth, forcing people to stay a part.of the working poor, and subsidizing corporations (food stamps are paid to grocers and big box stores) are just some of the repugnant shit foodstamps brings.

If they gave a shit, food stamps would be handled like food aid to the injuns, people would have to visit the air location and pick up their rations. The government would be able to provide more goods that way by paying farmers and suppliers wholesale prices instead of Wal-Mart's retail markup.

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>being this jewish
Stop

What does that have to do with welfare recicants?

>the government doesnt just have that money
So you're saying that the private sector prints money? And don't get thrown in jail because of it?
Don't ever post again until you understand how a fiat economy works, crippledick.

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Jews don't work, they steal

>when you increase welfare you decrease labor participation
That's hardly a bad thing, when there's less and less to be done.
>hyperinflation
Why do none of you the_donald kikes understand how a fiat economy works? Who taught you crippledicks that taxes are recycled, rather than destroyed?

The quote was originally from Proverbs. Sit down.

> Breasts that ripple the dress
> Nipples that protrude relentlessly through the ripples
gibs slurpy

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It discourages people from working if they can get someone else's money for free

Decent figure for an older woman, I would

Best post

Everything you say has no real basis other than your clear bias for anyone who isn't like you. Thus I can't take you seriously, you're a walking talking fallacy of retarded butthurt insults.

Kill yourself, or promote an actual argument you 2016 reddit tourist.

Welfare is any government assistance. Not just food stamps.

Section 8 housing allows thugs and "diversity" in your neighborhood paying 150 dollars a month while you have to pay 3100. These ratios are accurate for SoCal.

The only reason a hospital visit is expensive, is because illegals are given free medical care, they pay nothing and receive any necessary medical treatment, even organ transplants and chemotherapy.

The amount of money spent on illegals in emergency rooms in just California, for on year, is 50 billion usd.

Back in the 80s, no one feared the expense of going to the hospital. Most people who avoided seeing the doctor did so because they simply didn't trust them.

You gotta come to Michigan if you want some of that action.

>someone else's
All money is the currency issuer's to do with as they will. They don't need yours in order to spend. They only tax us as an inventory control measure.

>The only reason a hospital visit is expensive
If I can find any other reason at all, will you get on live stream and kill yourself for being a lying reddit shill? Promise?

>tax dollars which when given to the welfare recipients goes back into the economy
but not back into my pockets from whence it came. i don't seem to benefit directly from being taxed for welfare, nor from that money going back into the economy

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This video will explain it OP
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Taxes don't fund spending.
Kill yourself for being intentionally ignorant of macroeconomics.

I shouldn’t be responsible for anyone else’s welfare except the criminally dangerous mentally ill and people too disabled to work. That’s just my opinion thought

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THE GOVERNMENT ISNT FUNDED BY TAXES YOU RETARD
ITS FUNDED BY DEBT
YOUR TAXES LITERALLY DO NOTHING

>I am a sociopath
Thanks for letting us know.

Yes, and that debt is merely the other side of the coin that is the private sector's assets and savings.

steal money from those who work and give to those who don't in exchange for votes

Thiccc

Political Milkers up next on CSPAN

Karl Marx said that those who don't work/ contribute shall not eat.

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The end result is prices increase and taxes go up. You have money to spend so you cause increase in demand for groceries etc but you didnt contribute to the economy so the govt taxes workers to feed you

Giving chimps free money to make more chimps

bitchute.com/video/wV8dlev5IH6F/

billions of years of evolution.

>spending creates wealth meme

try again

Welfare will overburden those who actually contribute. It rewards the lazy and punish the people actually doing the work - thus people will choose to live off welfare. You will run out of money - or rather the money will run out of value since not enough people are producing the things that money can buy. The value of the currency has to be created by actually producing something of worth.

To the people producing stuff your money will eventually mean nothing since there is no value behind it, if it's printed out of thin air it'd be just a useless wad of paper. The producers would start trading with each other with a currency of their own, leaving the worthless parasite people behind. Unless you tried to force them to support the parasites, i.e. force them to accept your useless payment.

But then you are effectively presenting two options: slavery or violence. But that is a shitty bargaining position since you'd still be dependent on them, but you have nothing to offer them, they'll do just fine without you.

You don't get to live free on other people's expense, because your life isn't worth more than anyone else's; you don't get to have slaves - if you want to live, work for it like everyone else does. The people producing don't get welfare, someone has to produce it and these people are it.

The only way the economy works if people trade something of value to something of value, money has been invented to make this transaction better, it is just a stand-in for the wealth you've created, for the work (that has value to others) you've done. So that the fisherman doesn't have to pay everyone in fish, money allows the fisherman to trade with everyone - even with the people who don't like fish.

You don't get free shit just by existing, no one pays for that, except for your parents.. If you disagree with that, then you pay for my existence.

Welfare is redistribution of wealth. It's a precursor to socialism.

promotes dysgenics.
the jews have the answer.

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Youre a fucking moron to.seriously ask this question here.

Quality chicken feed OP.
Look at the seppo's arguing amongst themselves.

HONK HONK

people that work hard for a living shouldn't be forced to pay for lazy shit bags and scam artists. same goes for healthcare and college loans

Private wealth isn't important. Income is.
Lern2macroeconomics and don't ever post again until you do.

>The welfare comes out of tax dollars which when given to the welfare recipients goes back into the economy
FFS, this species is doomed.

Look fuckface, redistributing resources refuses the productivity of the entire economy. You can't just arbitrarily move shit around and think there will be no overall change. Were this true COMMUNISM WOULD FUCKING WORK

welfare comes out of taxes somebody else had to work for
it creates no value
matter of the fact it creates nothing at all
imagine working at a company creating a product, paying taxes and now somebody living of welfare buys your product
so you didn't just create the product but also paid for it
yet you will never have it
taxes welfare recipients pay are part of your salary you pay taxes for
its like a government run pyramid scheme

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>pay for
Is that what the shills from le_donald have written in their brief for today?
Kill yourself, you circumcised neoliberal kike.

Reality, everything has a price, everything is a trade-off, there are no free meals.
If you are stranded on a deserted island alone, the coconuts don't walk into your mouth, you actually have to go get them yourself or die. That is the price.

If someone else were stranded there with you, he/she won't just be your slave/servant and get food for you just because you exist. You have to give something in return, otherwise you'd just be a burden, and he/she would do better without you.

kek

savings and under-consuming is literally the first step to economic growth

savings = capital to make the investments that increase productivity and therefore increase our standard of livings

no, gibs don't create wealth

It's weird how you shills are now calling everyone like while spreading disinfo

>muh productivity
Why do you need more productivity? Where's my slice?
>You can't just arbitrarily move shit around and think there will be no overall change
Apparently, neoclassical economics says you're wrong. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrality_of_money
>Were this true
Nordic-style social democracy would work. Gosh, it actually DOES work!
Can't you just admit that you psychopaths took positive actions to destroy communist regimes that would have gotten along just fine if you crippledicked kikes had minded your own goddamn business?

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>Can you explain to me how welfare is bad?

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OP will actively ignore this unavoidable basic reality because it utterly destroys socialism, just like socialism destroys civilization.

>Where's my slice?
you child, all of history was the history of poor people until some geniuses chained the government with a constitution and we all got rich

what the fuck script are you reading from guy?

>Nordic-style social democracy
gee lets circle the whitest areas on the planet and go figure it would be nice to live there

>t.someone who is dependent upon the lordship for their food

>take my land, take my resources, you deserve then more because you are poor
gas

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>how is subsidizing bad decisions through welfare bad and penalizing good decisions through taxes bad?

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This.
You're rewarding people that fail at life. If you fund failure you'll get more of it.
Tax dollars should go to common defense of our borders and nukes.
Give money to poor people just gets you more bum that weigh society down.
Let them starve... that's free.

I spotted the latino. Dont mention the gargantuan expense they inflict upon our healthcare service.

Bitch, I'm not lying, illegals get all healthcare free of charge. Any person from California knows this to be true.

>Where's my slice?
YOU EARN IT BY VOLUNTARY EXCHANGE FUCK FACE

Exactly. If you don't earn enough to provide for yourself then you're a parasite.
BTW, the welfare is killing them anyway. The poor in the West are so fat, they have the highest rate of diabetes and obesity. Cutting off free shit might just be the kick in the ass these worthless pieces of shit to get up and work.
But yeah, I'd sooner billions die than pay another damn cent so these lazy fucks get gibs for doing nothing. I'd fucking kill them myself if it were legal.
>The Purge will happen in real life one day

So that's a no? That you admit you're arguing disingenuously and trying to sell your shit-tier tendentious D&C rather than come to an actual understanding of how the health care financing system actually works?

There is no voluntary exchange under capitalism when the lordship class manipulates supply and demand.
So are you going to admit that you're wrong on the other two points or are you just going to be a reddit shill?

>The welfare comes out of tax dollars which when given to the welfare recipients goes back into the economy so how does welfare add to the overall debt as conservatives always say it does.
Because almost every nation runs a deficit.

Earning is a social construct.
>The poor in the West are so fat
That couldn't possibly be because they can't afford real food and instead are forced to buy $20 Fill-up Buckets?
How does it feel for your entire politics to be defined by the fact that mommy had your penis cut as a baby? It's fucking hilarious, from out here.

Government deficit = private value created + net imports.
Prove me wrong.

The U.S.S. Liberty was attack by kikes. For that, we should nuke israel and kill all jews with isreali citizenship.
>All of them

>losing 10% of the workforce to gibs is a good thing
t. Retard

Administrative costs, plus it's not their fucking money to spend on potato chips and malt liquor. It would be better spent on hiring new employees and expanding business.

this same shill is in every thread attacking people's foreskin and calling them libs. you stand out faggot

SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST YOU STUPID FUCKHEAD. PUT UP OR SHUT UP

Ever hear of the phrase a chain is only as strong as it's weakest link? Well humanity as a collective is that chain. And all those weak links are causing society to FUCKING. COLLAPSE. grow a brain shithead

But why should I or any of us pay into it if we don't want to?
If someone wan't to help the poor they can donate to charity without taking everyone else's money.

I shouldn't be forced with violence to give my wealth to people who didn't earn it. Simple as that.

Just a way for the kikes to leach off productive white people and give it to 3rd world scum. Fuck welfare, fuck kikes but mostly fuck you OP.

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Nothing is given to man on earth. Everything he needs has to be produced. And here man faces his basic alternative: he can survive in only one of two ways—by the independent work of his own mind or as a parasite fed by the minds of others.
The creator originates. The parasite borrows.
The creator faces nature alone. The parasite faces nature through an intermediary.
The creator’s concern is the conquest of nature. The parasite’s concern is the conquest of men.
The creator lives for his work. He needs no other men. His primary goal is within himself. The parasite lives second-hand. He needs others. Others become his prime motive.

Altruism is the doctrine which demands that man live for others and place others above self.

The second-hander has used altruism as a weapon of exploitation and reversed the base of mankind’s moral principles. Man must wish to see others suffer—in order that he may be virtuous. Such is the nature of altruism. Men have been taught dependent as a virtue. Men have been taught that the highest virtue is not to achieve, but to give. Yet one cannot give that which has not been created. Creation comes before distribution—or there will be nothing to distribute. The need of the creator comes before the need of any possible beneficiary. Yet we are taught to admire the second-hander who dispenses gifts he has not produced above the man who made the gifts possible. We praise an act of charity. We shrug at an act of achievement.

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Welfare isn't the problem. It's the people who are able but unwilling to participate in society but feel entitled to the fruits of it's collective labor.

>Nose

Except he's 100% correct you faggot

It adds to americans debt. Because americans have less money so theyre more likely to use a debt card.

Imagine being this retarted

The rich have less power if everyone has basic necessities. that's why welfare is bad.

>working harder just to make others rich, despite increasing productivity that has doubled over the past 50 years, is a good thing
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Prove me wrong, either on the macroecon or your brain damage.
You can't, can you?

That's for society to decide collectively, not a single isolated reeeeeeetard.

Whats a basic necessity?

>everything on a silver platter.

>I'm 12 and what is Maslow's hierarchy of basic human needs
If it weren't obvious, food, shelter, clothing, a basic level of social connection and consistency.
You need to read more.

>That's for society to decide collectively, not a single isolated reeeeeeetard.
Umm no, collective opinion does not change the reality and the law of conservation of energy; you can't create stuff from thin air, everything has a price i.e. you have to do to get; Perform an action to get a reaction; you have to earn.

If you have a problem with this, then go alone somewhere, then collectively decide by yourself that everything your body requires should just appear to you. I tell you, it won't - you actually have to get it yourself, i.e work for it; earn it. If you don't, then you are eating nothing.

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Real food is actually cheaper

>let’s have the dumbest and laziest people in the planet breed like rats while taxing the smartest and best into childless poverty
What could go wrong?