Is Jow Forums pro or anti nam?

Dat spoils of war amirite

>had the US media not been used by the USSR to demoralize the public
>by the USSR
Are you sure it wasn't (((someone))) else?

Yes, it was the (((USSR)))

To be fair, only Death won Vietnam.

i think we really could have won but by that time the kalergi plan had turned enough americans into faggots to hamstring the war effort
look up operation pheonix. it was a cia effort to cripple vc command structure. it was working. after the war vc officers spoke of how effective it was. american faggots demanded the operation be halted because it didnt match up with their idealized hollywood perception of war

Or was it the Jews? ;^)

forgot pic

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It effectively stopped the spread of communism, and no new communistic countries have formed since Vietnam for fear the US will just Zerg rush soldiers onto and napalm the fuck out of your jungle. Did a lot of US soldiers die? Yes. Do they still wave the commie flag? Yes. But in the global scale of things, it shocked the world hard enough into realizing communism was really that bad. I consider it a win for the world, and for the US. Also battlefield Vietnam was the best fuckingf expansion battlefield has ever seen ever, I hope they make bad company 3. It would be the only saving grace for dice at this point after V.

the us got to kill commies so i guess yes?

Vietnam was a CIA op for trafficking opium from the Golden Triangle into the West, starting the world's first modern heroin labs in Marseilles France. Used Corsican gangsters and the Sicilian mafia to smuggle dope. The CIA's predecessor the OSS used the same contacts to roll into Italy from Sicily in WWII with virtually no issue.

And while the CIA was smuggling dope out of SE Asia using its fake airline Air America (inside the corpses of dead GI's), big business made a fortune off contracting. Probably why Kennedy was killed.

Johnson had investments in Bell Helicopter and other war contractors. Everyone remembers Halliburton from the Bush years but they never realize Halliburton broke off from the group Brown & Root which was doing the same shit during 'Nam. Brown & Root was basically behind all military and civilian contracting in Vietnam.

The movie JFK by Oliver Stone is wrong on a few things but I think overall it got it right on the who and why behind the scenes.

Vietnam was an illegal, immoral clusterfuck. 60,000 dead Americans and who knows how many millions of shitskins for no reason besides shadow play.

Jow Forums is for the Truman Doctrine. Vietnam falls under that scope.

No, it was the Dutch. See

Walt Rostow, a Communist Jew from Russia, whose stated primary aim in politics was to “eliminate national sovereignty for America and other nations”, was behind the orchestration of the Vietnam War, which was supposedly against Communism. So insane were the restrictions imposed upon their actions by the same two traitors, Robert McNamera, and Lyndon Johnson, who also were directly involved in the murder of American servicemen of the USS Liberty, that the men fighting the Vietnam War could never have won. It was a White genocide.

Truman was a retarded shoemaker that prolonged WWII and started shit in Korea because Dean Acheson thought it'd be a good idea.

Had military decisions been left to military commanders, the outcome would have been much different. Victory depends on how you define it, but it would have been something closer to victory than what S Vietnam actually got.

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no fuck you

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Anti Vietnam.
We should firebomb the whole country.
Pointless fucking question.

this is jidf narrative
Kennedy was going to inspect Dimona, that’s why he was killed. Ben Gurion was humiliated and quit. He ordered the hit and everyone else was down because he had to go.

Same crew who did 9/11 did Kennedy

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This.
Anyone who is supportive of Nam because we killed commies is a fucking idiot.
The war became what it was because of a False Flag.
Also, feminists shit on young men who were drafted into the war.

Vietnam will forever make me hate feminists and certain groups of liberals.
They're worse than communists, because of the fact that they willingly betrayed their own male peers.

Brothers seperated at birth

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It's over, get over it already. Nobody gives a fuck, you don't have to keep telling everyone you ever meet that you were in "'nam". Fuck your nam hats. fuck your bumper stickers. You needy, faggot, boomers have never accomplished anything with their life.

I can't see the war as beneficial.

First, it's an insurgency so it's doomed to fail, and then you have the CIA Phoenix program that no doubt added to the cancerous nature of the intelligence agency. Agent orange literally ravaging the biological integrity of all living things, while the government is trying to win over hearts and minds with CORDs.

Just a massive clusterfuck to further the interests of internationalism, kindly supplied by the rampant federal government tumor.

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My dad fought in Vietnam. If I went back to 1967, I would have enlisted even knowing the Tet Offensive was up ahead.

I would have enlisted just because hippies were faggots

Vietnam was started by Lyndon B Johnson on the flimsiest of pretexts (Gulf of Tonkin), because some kike got an "anonymous" article published in Foreign Affairs, the magazine of the Council on Foreign Relations, stating that communism tries to spread, so instead of fighting it, we should just "contain" it and not allow it to spread further. This kikery is particularly devious because it presupposes that victory is not worth achieving and put American military policy strictly on the strategic defensive. Johnson was fine with this because he wanted to pay more attention to passing bills to undermine White American society than on silly things like American wars. Generals and Admirals briefly pushed back, asking to be allowed to actually win the war by attacking the aggressor state (North Vietnam), but were denied and threatened with forced retirement because Johnson was afraid of having to fight off the Chinese Army like had happened in North Korea. Rather that retire and take their case to the public a decade before the student agitation, they decided to play ball and waste thousands of American lives and millions of American dollars (when the dollar was worth something) bombing vast swathes of nothing in the jungle and mountains rather than the actual infrastructure of North Korea. This changed when Nixon took power, but then the kike Kissinger convinced him to cozy up to Mao's China and save it from itself, as after two failed communist plots to "modernize" China, China was about to collapse on itself.

Lyndon B Johnson is the third worst American president of all time, only behind FDR and Lincoln.

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Seeing you stooges justify a false flag war that only benefited the war industry just because foreigners were killed is like watching useful idiots clamor for war in Syria because neocons and neolibs say they're bad.

Stop being lemmings.

Well... there IS that too.

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So where do we get a good war? We really need an outlet.

Nam was a bad idea because it was the worst time to go to war. The hippy generation was the worst thing you could've had during war

Probably the had the best soundtrack of any war

Anti-Nam but I respect people who fought, a lot were doing it for noble reasons like liberating Vietnam from commies.

>Make all manly, conservative, people go to war
>Leave behind hippies to fuck up the populace with degeneracy and communism

HMMMMMMMM

It's not a narrative you retard.
CIA
Air America
Golden Triangle

What part of that is JIDF? The CIA fought tooth and nail to stop the publication of The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia and couldn't debunk any of it. Because the dude literally went there and documented everything.

The CIA used the corpses of dead Americans to hide heroin. They created a fake airline to traffic dope. They started the modern heroin trade using Asia drug lords and old criminal contacts from WWII.

There were none. But then I'm a believer in the just war theory. I'm not a proponent of war for corporate interests. So basically every war after the revolution was wrong. Even the Barabry Wars and 1812 were flimsy, but at least in theory they were about protecting our sovereignty. Everything else was about taking land, enforcing tariffs or Wall Street.

Don't be a useful idiot.

>Mfw it took me this long to make the possible connection
Hot damn never been more disappointed in myself.

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>false flag war to prevent completely irrelevant country from doing something it wasn't going to do
>bail out french colonialism because lol why not
>military industrial complex to the max with RoE that prevent victory to keep the cash flowing
>generation of hippies and fuck the man brainwashing injected into American psyche
>we fucking lose, cherry on top

yeah you'll find a lot of trolls laying bait for this but tbqh we could have told Ho Chi Minh to pledge to George Washington and he would have

Anti Nam. My father served two tours in Vietnam and was wounded three times. Now, in his old age, he is totally fucked up physically.

>Is Jow Forums pro or anti nam?
anti, nuke Nam off the face of the Earth

ALSO

When the war finished do you know who was pissed the most? The Trilateral Commission (founded by David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski of course).

They released a report in 1975 titled The Crisis of Democracy. They blamed too much freedom and access to voting for the Deep State's failure to maintain control of the narrative. In other words, the American system of representative government is dangerous because it allows the public to believe they actually have a say. They use terms today like hyperdemocracy for this phenomena but it's just New Speak for people doing their jobs as citizens and demanding action.

And to consolidate executive power they groomed a member for the Presidency in 1976. Jimmy fucking Carter. If the fucking Trilateral Commission is on your side it's time to change sides.

OH YEAH.

Ho Chi Minh wasn't a communist originally. He was a Nationalist that begged every US President since Woodrow Wilson to recognize his peoples' independence. He inspired by the American system. Fuckin Progressives pushed him to relying on Marxism to achieve his independence.

Ho Chi Minh and his people fought the French, Japanese, Americans, Chinese and Cambodians. That's some dedication. And look at them now. We're fucking friendly as shit. 60,000 dead Americans for no goddamn reason besides CIA lies and corporate greed. Vietnam never attacked us and did nothing wrong resisting us.

I like this quote on the subject, "Why are we halfway around the world fighting communists when there are already plenty of them back home to fight?"

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Im pro dead commies

Checked. The Phoenix Program was hands down the most effective operation of the entire war. Unfortunately it came too late to make the ultimate difference.
And contrary to popular belief, it was mostly carried out by ARVN troops, which was a big reason for why it was so brutal (ARVN personnel tended not to handle the people who had been systematicaly torturing and killing their families with kid gloves when they caught them).

Ho Chi Minh lived in the fucking Soviet Union and was educated in Marxist theory there. He had such a boner for Lenin he even waited outside for hours in the snow just to see his casket after he died.
Yeah he was a Viet nationalist too. When it came to the asian countries being a nationalist and a marixist/communist were not mutually exclusive concepts.
Vietnam may have been a bad idea, but Uncle Ho was a bonafide asshole and was fucking asking for it.

nam was just an excuse to kill off more right wing voting age men.

Ho Chi Minh used to suck mu dick in his cave

Jow Forums is anti boomer

Some of the best games I've ever played were Vietnam based. I'm pro napalm.

Anti-nam, This way the military industrial complex flexing on jungle chinks.

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You fucking stooge. He traveled to the USSR AFTER Woodrow Wilson ignored his plea for recognition.

Yeah turns out Progressives talked a big game after WWI about anti-imperialism and never backed it up. The United States could've avoided so many goddamn conflicts in the 20th century by minding its damn business. Instead we created half our enemies.

boomers can't fight

>we gilled gommies
>ebig basedd war
>Xdddd

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>He only became a communist after Wilson blew him off!
So you admit he was a communist?
Doesn't matter the reasons why - by the 1950s Ho was a communist and when the North won he imposed comunism on the whole country from the top down. Eat a dick you crybaby.

BASED MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!

Jow Forums is chock full of bootlicking NPCs

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>burgers go to the war against x communist country and give white lives to the death
>Don't wait to them fail as they always do.
Fucking retards

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Pro Nam purely for the aesthetics and military technology advancement

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No argument there. Hindsight is always 20/20.
People were scared shitless the commies were going to overtake the rest of the world all the way up until the 80s. Nobody was betting that they'd crap the bed so hard so fast.

>USA kills almsot 20 times more Vietnamese than US deaths
>HAHA BTFO America! you guys got le #rekt! Communism FTWWW!!! XDDDDD
Rope yourself retard

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The USA lost pretty bad.

They should have invested all of those resources into fighting commies in african nations, like rhodesia. That wouldn't mean more sucessful african nations (like modern day rwanda), which means less poverty which leads to less immigrants.

>worry about a shit country like Vietnam
at least gladio ops was more sense to retaliate expansion of communism in Yurop

Memeflag faggot gtfo my thread

No they didn't you absolute faggot

Nam was a war for the Jews to test out equipment and make money. We could have nuked Soviet Russia but instead we let them fester and grow. Now we're sending boys off to go die in a jungle from poo poo spikes

>Is Jow Forums pro or anti nam?

the war that's no longer taking place, or the country?

WW1 and WW2 were Jewish designed meat grinders and every war after it. The only people not getting grinded into mulch for no reason was the axis in WW2 because they were redpilled about what was going on. People that willingly sign up for the military are zogbots looking for a paycheck. You get a lot of good hearted people signing up to serve their country but they just dont know that they're signing up for ZOG. if a modern day draft happens for white men we all need to resist. The western world is on the brink of getting redpilled and ZOG has an urgent need to cull the remaining white males so their globohomo plan could come to fruition.

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Waste of money and American lives.

Vietnam war was the most retarded shit ever and trigger the most cucked generation of the modern times

Should have just said fuck it, and nuke them.

Then kicked China's ass after China was fresh and ready to fight.

Commies fighting commies, everyone wins.

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Jow Forums supports anything that is even SLIGHTLY right-wing. Anything even remotely right wing the people on here praise it like the best thing ever.

This board is really pathetic.

Nope.

Ryan Dawson is that you ?

>US media
>echoes
Are you honestly suggesting there's a difference?

'nam was boring and overrated, korean war was comfy.

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>implying that the MIC can't/won't utilize a plausibly legitimate threat to foment conflicts that are simultanously beneficial to its bottom line and ultimately bad for the rest of us.
>failing to actually read what I actually wrote and instead making half-assed assumptions about what I must actually believe/be arguing for.
You were just waiting to say what you were going to say and you figured one of my posts was close enough to your strawman so you could sperg it out and it wouldn't seem likeyou had a preconceived agenda.You're greatly oversimplifying things (which ironically enough is pretty much what you are accusing me of doing) despite the fact that I've tried to stick to concrete fatual statements while you've mostly just spouted off edgy platitudes.
For what it's worth, you're not actually wrong, but you're clearly not intelligent enough to fully understand why.

You inbred kike. Jidf

Jow Forums love getting cucked by rice farmers.

Anti. This shit only gave birth to the hippie movement and now those same hippies are pushing their kike marxist studies down to the next generation.

Go back to /x/ faggot

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>demonstrating that Ho was in fact a communist means I am also claiming that the vietnam war was both justified and/or a good idea
generally speaking, accusing other posters of being kikes only works when you actually read what people actually post and make your assessment accordingly. When you do it merely because someone says something you don't like/disagree with you look like a tryhard faggot.
For your own benefit I suggest picking up a secondhand copy of Hooked on Phonics and lurking more.

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