I've seen some argument I don't want to get involved in of a boomer who claims Amazon is the easy solution for employment because they pay more than minimum wage. I'm not very articulate and I'm shit at debate but I feel like that's bullshit otherwise more people would be flocking to these jobs.
Am I justified in thinking that working for Amazon isn't the quick fix the boomers think it is? Interested in opinions, especially from employees from Amazon, Walmart, Target, Uber, Lyft.
I mean he's right. It's why so many foreigners come to the west and are fine working in McDonald's as a 50 year old. Without those superfluous expenses they aren't used to anyways that money is enough for them. Can't tell you the untold millions of immigrants sitting around totally satisfied at minimum wage and getting 99c store items, food and thrift clothes.
Christian Perry
Cigarettes cost 7$ a day Beer costs at least 5$ Weed is more expensive
Kayden Sanchez
When I was a heavy stoner I could afford rent, food, alcohol and weed all on minimum wage, 3/4 days a week of work.
If you're living in a shit country like the US it's impossible, but not everywhere.
Jose Hernandez
I’m on minimum wage, and i thought my life was doomed. Turns out if live accordingly to my means i can have pretty sweet life. Now I’m in my 30s and i own my own house with almost no debt and i got a car. It’s a small house and just a regular car. But I love my life, and im cutting down on work too so i can do hobbies i like. I’m good at budgeting and planning ahead. I have more freedom than most of my friends that is chasing careers and big houses etc.
Jaxson Green
Oh forgot to mention. I don’t live in the US, if that’s your case you’re fucked.
Ian Ramirez
Very few people actually life their entire life on minimum wage. Most people who are paid minimum wage are aged 16-24. Even without any education, having a minimum wage job gets you experience, and experience allows you to get better paying jobs.
If I recall correctly, American supermarkets have an average employee retention rate of 90 days. Barely anyone anymore works their entire life at the same minimum wage store.
Also, the OP's pic is right. I went to some of the best schools of Canada not because my parents were rich, but because my parents were careful planners when it came to money.
Gabriel Morales
Are you in the US? I feel like this isn't possible in Canada since rent has gone through the roof and car insurance costs more than a used car
Without a car I can see how it can be done though
Isaiah Ward
I’m in Scandinavia. Minimum wage get you very far. We have problem with rent going through the roof, but i just found a house in the countryside and bought it. And as I don’t need to stay put for minimum jobs i can can move more freely. I thought canada was similar?
Kevin Scott
maybe in other provinces, but im near toronto so everything is pretty expensive. you could live off minimum wage, but you wont be able to have a car and youll have to live with 3-5 other people in a house
Camden Bennett
In my experience the dude is mostly right I've lived at minimum wage for some time and I was doing ok
Some people I see living with minimum wage or welfare are spending a lot on alcohol, smoking, ordering food, eating out.. and then complain they don't have enough to finish the month
This is an important note to make. Other western countries have better social support that reduce the amount of financial strain on the minimum wage worker.
Michael Gutierrez
This user is correct. minimum wage might have meant something 70 years ago, but its stagnated since Reagan's policies. In fact when you couple it with inflation the actual buying power of the minimum wage American has decreased dramatically.
Levi Anderson
>it's not meant to... It's meant to compensate you for the value you provide. Anything else is retarded sophistry. Let's take a look at what my retail job expects from me. >open availability I have to structure my life around this job. Any job I get on the side is unstable income that I will eventually have to give up when this one needs me. >no daily or weekly overtime If I need more money, I can't work more hours for it either. >weekly overnight shift. Saturday, Sunday, Monday are essentially a missing half of my life. >two hour shift on Saturday to compensate for lack of staffing Friday night is gone too. If I stay in this job, my strong chance of dying a virgin becomes a certainty >no merit raises I'm forklift certified and one of the few people in the store that can order central supplies. At least I can be confident that I won't lose this awful job.
Please find me a high schooler that will do ANY of this shit.
Robert Hill
On principle, yes, you have to be smart with your money. Don't buy a Ferrari if you can't afford it but the OP pic is making the assumption that there are no other factors when it comes to financial problems.
Ryan Cook
What country is the post about. What rate of minimum wage? Most people in the US realize that the minimum wage is not a living wage and it was never created to be a living wage by any means. Some people do it though. I sometimes wonder what the minimum income I could live off of if I really tried cutting out all excess spending and just lived bare bones as possible.
Aiden Adams
The US. Dude's in Texas so minimum wage there is $7.25. Here in California it's $12.
Dominic Morales
Thanks. I'd tell OP to avoid the argument. I'm guessing OP or the boomer aren't that educated in economics because most people aren't and even the ones who are are wrong half the time. (See Alan Greenspan). Right now most people who want jobs are working and most people who are working at amazon are probably looking at leaving. When the economy was weaker like 10 years ago communities were fighting for Amazon to come to town and temp workers were lined up to work there. I would need some major cutbacks to live off 7.25 an hour. Like, live out of my vehicle cutbacks.
Benjamin Allen
his FACT is false. they call it the minimum wage because thats the least they are gonna pay you to do your job.
the minimum wage hasnt ever been livable in any country. so you have to put in more hours to make a "living wage" the reason is CEO take a big cut off the top middle and lower wage earners have been earning less and less just trying to keep their heads above water. all comes down to tax rates.
you should learn while you earn.
>>while you have job start studying to get better job.
Matthew Phillips
A group of individuals that live together could live off minimum wages. Usually migrant families in the U.S used to have large families and communities of similar migrants that worked minimum wage jobs until they formed together to help their internalized communities.
Nolan Gutierrez
OP here, yeah, I didn't want to get involved if I don't have enough information on hand, which is why I'm here.
Nicholas Murphy
Where do you live?
Matthew Murphy
>the minimum wage is not a living wage and it was never created to be a living wage by any means. It isn't currently a 'living wage' but was actually created with the intention of being one. Legislators have just failed to preserve that aspect.
Camden Hall
>the minimum wage hasnt ever been livable in any country.
My minimum wage is $13.85 an hour and my rent is $820 a month. I would say that is plenty livable.
