Why do CEOs make 271 times more than their employees? Is there any justification for this...

Why do CEOs make 271 times more than their employees? Is there any justification for this? Decades ago it used to only be 20 to 1 CEO to work pay gap.

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Globalization means companies are much larger and far spanning. Walmart might very well be 13x the size it used to, therefore a CEO in charge has a lot more to manage.

If you want to be paid more when your labor produces value, get stock in your company. Just be prepared to take a loss if your company does poorly as well.

Because as the population has risen, compulsory schooling has resulted in more of the population gaining diplomas, and technology has automated tasks that once had to be done manually, individual employees are less valuable relative to what they had decades ago. Meanwhile as the assets of businesses have reached ever numbers and greater sums are on the line with each risk taken, CEOs have more value relative to what they had decades ago.

This is not complicated.

because goy making calls and giving firm handshakes is hard

>Oh noes CEOs steal muh work value
>t.McDonalds burger flipper
CEOs make that much because they manage business across several countries.
Business owners contribute with equipment, raw materials, logistics etc.
Why are burger flipping, shop clerks socialists subhumans so damn entitled to a value they don't own?

You think shareholders want to pay their CEOs more than they're worth? You fucking retard

>Waahhh, why can't I have your shit?!
Stop looking for free handouts, lazy fatass.

>I make it
He doesn't fork the money to buy the machines and factories, materials etc. All he does is rent himself as a tool for 8 hours a day. The one who makes it is the guy in the suit.

No where in the OP did OP say the CEO should be paid the same as the average worker.

That user is replying to the contents of the OP's image, not his text.

Nobody read what you typed newfag. Images are worth way more than words here, specially with all the boring shit you typed. Also, we can tell that you're the OP, I don't know why you're referring to yourself in third person. Get out of this site kid.

boomer detected

good fuck OP btfo.

Muslims and Jews are to blame. I think I understand why Europe is filled with Muslims - less questions to the capitalists
let them fight among themselves, let chill out

Most of the employees now work overseas.

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Because no company wants to employ an "average" or "below average" CEO. They always want to employ someone they perceive to be above the rest. Thus, they offer salaries higher than the market average. This results in CEO salaries inflating over time.

You cant do anything without a ceo and a worker doesnt produce that large a share of value alone. This chart just makes shit up.

Generally false... take joe plumber; he pays his employees $20 / hour... and pays himself $5400 / hr.... he’d need at a minimum 271 employees to generate that. Now add in cost of business and he’d need 1000 employees to cover his $5400 / hour.

Because you imported a bunch of shitskins so unsurprisingly that is now the most salient conflict

Why don't shareholders employ the CEO who will work for only 270 times the average salary though?

Ceos gets paid 8 time what a worker makes, if there are 1000 workers that need to be managed.

What's stopping you from starting your own company and keeping all the money for yourself?

Strawman but really burger flippers need to make their own burger street carts and they too can be CEOs after incorporating the LLC. Anyone can be a CEO.

Because stupid faggots (like you OP) have voted for never ending hordes of subhumans who are willing to work for less than what whites consider a livable wage... it began decades ago with the Jew backed 1965 immigration act as I'm sure someone on here will be glad to inform you
>not even meming
>neo-slave owners (mostly Jews) and the idiots who fetishize/welcome sub-humans are the reason why everything just gets worse

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Fortune 500 CEOs make that amount. There are tens of thousands of CEOs in the US, their median pay is about $180,000 per year.

You now as well as I do ...its a rich thing ...not added value . Rich get richer ya know .

>Why do CEOs make 271 times more than their employees?
Credit expansion.

Oh please, do you actually realise how stupid this is?

Your Boss basically providers you everything you need for your job and takes all the risks. Without him you would not have anything to create at all. Your wife has nothing to do without IT.


Have you commies actually ever run a company?

See this, even regular experts have refuted this long ago.

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Looks like the average CEO made around $750,000. That includes the $50 million a year guys. The average is $750,000. and the average employee would have to be making under $3,000 per year for the misleading headline written by retards to fool even dumber retards to be true.

Why are commies so retarded? I think they all need bullets to the dome.

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But how is it possible, according to your pick shareholders steal the "surplus value", and CEO is just an employee, so he is exploited as well.

I hate commies tbqh

Because employees work a lot less now and their jobs require less experience. Add to that the overabundance of cheap labor in the market and the competition with foreign countries.

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Because those are the pay rates employers and employees consent to

I've always said that legally, the difference between the highest and lowest paid employee should be no greater than a factor of 10. Ie, CEO wants $1,000,000 salary? Pay the janitor or mail guy $100,000. Want more? Pay the lowest more.

That would destroy I come inequality.

Could it be because it's those guys who own the company and the tools you use to work and have to pay all the expenses, such as transportation, material costs, maintenance and repairs?

>who makes the product
the worker
>who markets the product
other workers
>who provides the material for the product?
the investors
>who pays for the factory?
the investors
>who provides the training
other workers
>who risk capital
the investors
>how profit should be distributed
the baws

and people dare to call neo-cons lazy

The workers are the ones who make all the value. It is their labor.

Price control has never worked.

Why don’t employees get a loan and start their own businesses?

Good thing slavery was abolished by whitey hundreds of years ago.

As I have always said, no one cares about your ignorant opinion.

Corporations ask for free handouts all the time. That's what a subsidy is.

What happens when these commies realize that CEOs are employees too? Does their mind get blown when their narrative falls apart?

And they are fairly and willfully compensated.

FYI, a CEO is technically a worker.

The machines and factories are made by workers though. Workers extract the resources too.

>Pay 30 people to do different jobs, have to provide them tools, stay up their ass, treat them like grown kids because most people are lazy faggots that get angry at the concept of working when they're being paid to do it
>The people, who not only wouldn't be doing had they not been getting paid to do it, think they deserve the same cut of the pie the guy who accrued all the risk taking and personnel gathering

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Incorrect. Without management or tools, there would be no labor. There's a reason communes are never competitive or profitable and do not produce anything the market wants.

So why do they bother going to work for someone else and giving their value away? Why don't they just stay home, and keep all their value for themselves? Face it, idiot ANYONE would prefer to work for himself. The ONLY reason to work in the employ of another rather than for oneself is that he makes MORE as someone else's employee than he would make self employed. Quite obvious, except for idiots...

Because we imported 10% of Mexico's population and are continuing to do so.

>Implying that anyone who sees massive unfairness in wealth inequality is a communist.
You're like the economic equivalent of a flat earther.

>the guy who accrued all the risk taking and personnel gathering
>the guy who asked for money that didnt had and couldn't pay payed other people for work he could not do alone wants a bigger share for being the conection between the investors and the workers
>the middle man wants all the glory

big wow

>>Implying that anyone who sees massive unfairness in wealth inequality is a communist.
Correct. Capitalists understand there is nothing wrong with inequality, since people are innately unequal. If you believe equality is a virtue, you are a commie. Sorry user.

Yeah, America gone insane. They arent helping their own people. Those are crazy people...

What if it was a personal investment from years of saving money, smart ass? Either way trying to trivialize a business owner because they needed a loan, while also trying to argue that some low skilled pleb that accepted an $9 an hour wage deserves 100k a year is fucking hilarious dude.

Stockholders decided to pay them that much. CEOs are employees of the board. Ask them why, CEO and COO etc don't write there own paychecks, except where the CEO also is the sole proprietor.

This isn't a price control though. You can pay your workers anything just as long as the discrepency between the highest and the lowest in a single company is no more than a factor of ten.

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OP probably thinks Jeff Bezos actually has 100 billion under his mattress somewhere.

They're responsible for decisions that often involve millions or billions. Would YOU (if you were in the shoes of a shareholder in a big company) be comfortable with some retard earning minimum wage making those decisions?

>Who markets the product?
How much effort does that seriously take?

>Who provides the material for the product?
It ultimately comes from the workers who extract it.

>Who pays for the factory?
The boss ... using a tiny fraction of his stolen value. Also, who built the factory?

>Who provides the training?
Some jobs expect you to pay for your own training. I once had to take an online course on how to handle toxic waste for a job. I had to pay for it myself.

>Who risked capital?
There is no risk if the boss is just going to get a government bailout using tax money taken from the working class.

Wanting to keep the fruit of your labour is not asking for a handout you fat boomer

Excellent, so if we give you a million dollar loan, you'll achieve the same thing as that CEO, right? You won't just fail, lose everything, and go into debt like lottery winners, right?

Mmm, maybe there's a reason why these particular people are trusted with large sums of money? Nah, no way.

Before I was even born to CEO and his company already existed so by the time I'm ready to work he has all the money and tools and then I would have to start from nothing

Whoever voted Bush/Dick, you are fucking idiots. They are making a lot of money after war in Iraq is "over". We'll whined but they are making billion dollars. I know they lower the price for gas but face it, it is not helpful. They were prepared to be sued anyway because they have enough money anyway, those people in iraq are DUMB.

What makes you think that fagg spic janitor is worth that much?

What I love is how people go after c level executives when they are relatively small pool of the companies expenses. Let's say we did cut executive pay. Why do you deserve any of it? Why not lower the cost of the products for the consumer?

That's still price control. That's like mandating that the most expensive item in a grocery store can only be x10 the price of the cheapest. It's absolute nonsense and will only make the store lose money or cut products.

Because CEO’s make more important decisions, have more responsibility, have more skill, and brings more value to the company than the average replaceable peasant worker

Because the Board votes for their pay, and the CEO hand-picks the Board. Duh.

This.

... and because communes don't receive bailouts ... unlike big business.

"I deserve a share of company profits even though I agreed to a static wage"
"Okay so what if the company is bleeding out money, you won't mind working for nothing right? Since now you have a vested interest in making sure this company profits"
"Ummm uhhhh" *Sweating man.jpg*

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If the shareholders want to shop around for a cheaper CEO to handle their investments, they can. They rarely if ever choose to do so, because CEO pay is not significant compared to their returns.

Are you implying that Thomas Jefferson was a communist?

I cant believe we allowed rats to play our life. Those people are the problems and they dont care. They need money, thats all.

This. Then they can assume all of the costs, liabilities, and licensing requirements that go along with it.

From what? If you can make and sell flat screen TVs without a factory organizing all the materials and equipment then why don't you? Keep all that value you created for yourself.

They also used to attend the same church as you, shop at the same stores, and fly on the same airplanes! Now they live in communities that still look like its pre1965. This is the problem with the rich and our ruling elites. They run this country and make more money but they do not see the effects lile everyone beneath them, instead were told to stop whining and told how rich we are compared to the rest of the world!

You do realize the alternative was Al Gore, right you fucking retard? Of course not it's all the evil Republicans them and them alone.

His quote referred to peoples' status before god, giving everybody the same inalienable rights. Everybody is equal before god, but not so in our material world.

But another grocery story could have totally different prices but within it it still can't have a range greater than 10x.

Facebook could have a range of 10,000,000 to 1,000,000 while a gas station could do 100,000 to 10,000

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The justification is that those CEO's make decisions that control the fate of the entire company, while a low level employee controls the fate of a handful of a product. The more money the stockholders are willing to pay, the more likely they will get a competent CEO who knows what they are doing with the company.

While I do agree that most low level employees are underpaid, there is justification, in that paying a burger flipper $50 an hour might make them work very hard, but they won't be able to make a positive return for the company.

The man on the right of your photo is taking that value created by the employee and selling it for the maximum dollar he can get, thereby ensuring that the employee gets to keep his job, unless the employee on the right can create his own company entirely, he really shouldn't be complaining. So there is some justification to not paying an employee as much as the CEO, while I do think there is no justification for keeping around jobs.

>What are majority stock holders for $500 Alex

Thomas Jefferson was against some people making more money than others?

Start your own empire, you dense fuck
Land of the free
Land of opportunities
Just sit there and cry about what they have and you want
You lazy piece of filth

that don't even offer people a livable wage, it's kind of insulting to make people work if they have to go and get food stamps, paid for tax payers, while the CEO and Major corporations often don't pay 271:1 in taxes.

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>What if it was a personal investment from years of saving money, smart ass?
wouw you be telling me that Jeff Bezos worked hard all his loife? man people like Soros sure had his hands full of blisters of years of hard work
>Either way trying to trivialize a business owner because they needed a loan, while also trying to argue that some low skilled pleb that accepted an $9 an hour wage deserves 100k a year is fucking hilarious dude.
you can not do your bussines grow alone, just because you are the owner is no justification to treat your employees like that, if you opened your bussines from years of hard labor you should treat people in the place you once were nicely, history is filled with people who ascended with wood shoes dessended with silk slippers

>I made it therefore I deserve to total value of the goods
>I made a mistake that cost millions in damage

Should the labor be responsible to pay the costs (monetarily and legally) for the damage caused by faulty labor?

Their $2.00 part, might cause a $1,000 assembly to fail that could lead to a recall campaign that costs even more money. Maybe someone died a result too.

Should they be liable for manslaughter? How about the millions of dollars in recall costs?

>Decades ago it used to only be 20 to 1 CEO to work pay gap

>decades ago

because they are jews? because they are corrupt? because their family gave them the loan to continue the oligarchy? wouw you sure showed me that banks are honest, soros is proud of you

>livable wage

What does that mean?

Instead of arguing you wanna know how you can solve this? Stop working. Just drop the fuck out. When these Jews have no one working for them, their business will fail.

The CEO gave you the job.

Because it makes faggots like you upset

Living wage is a communist MacGuffin, you get paid what you're worth and what you're willing to work for. That said I would be totally okay with getting rid of corporate subsidies, so that Walmart and other mega corps can't just shunt the burden of their payroll onto food stamps and such.

>place all the risk on your employer
>demand all your raises be converted into non-monetary compensation
>?????????
>complain