Wage slavery general

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>Oh noes CEOs steal muh work value
>t.McDonalds burger flipper
CEOs make that much because they manage business across several countries.
Business owners contribute with equipment, raw materials, logistics etc.
Why are burger flipping, shop clerks, socialists subhumans so damn entitled to a value they don't own

If you are gonna have a serious debate, remove the meme flag. None take you seriously.

Get fucked you retarded commie.

>Get fucked you retarded commie.

At least I'm not a cuck

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>At least I'm not a cuck
It cute that you think that. Keep sucking Marx' dick.

Socialism is the political expression of Narcissistic Resentment. This personality disorder is characterized by an undeserved sense of self-worth without commensurate accomplishments, a feeling that one deserves more than they have without the need to earn it themselves, a hatred of those more successful, and a desire to take what those more accomished people have earned in the most malicious manner possible.

This disease is often coupled with (or results in) the inability to recognize or accept basic (and observable) facts regarding the function of the natural world. Case in point: the idea of "excess value" being "extracted" from an employee's labor, while actively ignoring the overhead involved in running a business, and the fact that the employee bears no responsibility to cover these costs (nor does their wage decrease when these costs temporarily exceed sales).

>still believing in the labor "theory" of value
>even though it hasn't provided anything that an actual working theory would in terms of economic predictability

marxists are dumb niggers

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KYS you fagit

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Starbucks commies be like, I made this coffee.

Right all that money should go to CEOs and Israel

I agree.

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Look at the little Marxist, incapable of arguing without strawmen.

Ok, what about it?

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>Communists don't understand economy
And people wonder why communism fails every time.

whenever we get a comshill thread we have to drop the free market pill

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I run my families business now. Through college my parents shit on me a few times for my bad choices. After college I was basically a bum flipping burgers.
Now I don't have to worry about money anymore.
Let me tell you - the workload and "skill required" to run a business is less than is required to operate a kitchen effectively.

P.S. I love capitalism.

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1) Business owners assume all of the risks if the company fails. If the company doesn't make money, then they don't get paid.

2) Employers and employees agree on a salary via negotiations. Agreements entered into voluntarily aren't slavery.

3) Companies exist because there is a hard limit to what any one person can accomplish all by themselves.

4) It wouldn't make sense to hire someone if they don't at least break even in terms of profit generation.

5) If an employee feels they can make it on their own there's nothing stopping them from making their own company and fighting it out in the market by becoming an entrepreneur.

Based Ahmed tells the commie how it is

1) if a business fails, the people working there get lowered wages or 'let loose' way before without warning. the owner usually goes pretty scot free
2) if all empoyers agree on paying minimum then you can negotiate whatever you want, but everyone is giving you a shit deal. so it's live crap, or dont live at all
3) ok, companies exist. what's your point?
4)that's correct, but it should be somewhat fair, and not so that the worker can't live of off the wages, whilst the CEO buys his umpteenth house
5)most businesses need a bigtime investment, that means either finding someone or a group that thinks your business has a good chance of success AND they need to like you enough or saving up a ton while you're working long days with little salary, thus not gaining enough in a sufficient time.

Explain this.
>expected to give 2 weeks notice if you quit
>employer NEVER gives employee 2 weeks notice for a layoff or firing
That, and I can't stand being expected to be grateful that some scheming fat old kike is pumping me for shitmoney and expecting me to put my bathroom breaks on a timer. A fucking slave gets treated better. I've seen what management does, they screw around all fucking day and leave early. They never do a speck of work, but get paid 5x what the people actually doing shit make, and they're dumb as a sack to boot.

>the owner usually goes pretty scot free
Imagine being this delusional. "Haha, the business went under and you had to sell off all its assets that were paid for to avoid bankruptcy but you got off Scott free, ha ha."

Most people who shit on food service in general have likely never worked in the field, especially in a right to work state. The intensity of work load, speed of mind, and managerial skills are way beyond my current white collar job and I make over twice what the assistant manager at those restaurants made.

>tfw its 3 weeks at walmart
How the fuck do you expect to get another job?
>yeah, thanks for the job offer, but do you think you can delay me to start for nearly a month?

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>flipping burgers is the same as negotiating deals, start and managing projects.

> fully conciousness
> enters into a mutually agreed contract
> with fixed hourly rate for your labour
> get paid regardless of quality of the work meeting the expectations
> won't face negative sides of the risks taken by the endeavour
> call it slavery
lmao, you weak faggots are sad!

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>implying it's obligatory
Just don't show up what will they do? Fire you?

I have PTO and almost 400 hours of sick/personal time as leverage agaist me. Who am I kidding? I ain't ever going anywhere. Liver. 15 years at any place will make one a total company man.

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Someone should have added that the work the so called work at McDonald's is simply handing people reheated food made in a factory and the beaners working there can barely even manage the reheat part. Base pay should be 9 pesos an hour not dollars lol.

>1) Business owners assume all of the risks if the company fails. If the company doesn't make money, then they don't get paid.

Not if the business is a corporation. In that case much of the cost of failure is externalized to society at large as well as the workers via government enforced limited liability. Even without limited liability, there is an externalizing of harm to others who have invested time labor and resources (employees, suppliers, purchasers, neighbors, etc.)

>2) Employers and employees agree on a salary via negotiations. Agreements entered into voluntarily aren't slavery.

Its not slavery in the strictest sense. But if the only options available to the employee is to work for an unjust wage or to starve its not a very free choice.

>3) Companies exist because there is a hard limit to what any one person can accomplish all by themselves.

Companies exist because a government says they do. Try to form a corporation without a Cert. of Registration from some Sec. of State and see how effective that is. But otherwise generally true that a joint enterprise is created to accomplish a goal that a single person is incapable of achieving on his own. This is not necessarily a morally good or bad thing however.

>4) It wouldn't make sense to hire someone if they don't at least break even in terms of profit generation.

Not necessarily true. If MP>MC its still profitable to increase supply, even if one factor of MP is more costly than its benefit.

>5) If an employee feels they can make it on their own there's nothing stopping them from making their own company and fighting it out in the market by becoming an entrepreneur.

There are all kinds of barriers to entry in a market. Being stuck in a position of needing income to survive and feed ones family and not having any capital in which to start a competing business is a very big one. And lets not forget the government enforced non-compete contracts which are becoming more ubiquitous.

>defending paying for healthcare

>implying it takes any skill to do whatever shit job you're employed in
If even a literal monkey could do your job, then you're obviously replaceable and deserve no pity from anyone if you get laid off. No one else is responsible for your lack of education except for yourself, you dumb nigger.
>he literally works at Walmart
Kek, no wonder you're a retarded commie who thinks being a cashier entitles you to the same wage as a ceo. Neck yourself before you have the chance to procreate, you literal chimp

and here we see the effects of the complete commercialization of humanity.

man's moral worth is completely tied to his productivity. he is nothing more than a machine whose sole purpose is production. Not to worship God or create families, only to produce.

Well, yeah? It's the best paying job I can get as a high school dropout. I also dont work a register.

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I think we need economic slaves. I couldn't care less about what happens to a bunch of idiots floundering in the greatest and easiest economy in the history of Earth. The bar must always be raised and if you fall under it that's entirely your own personal problem.

We could easily let poorfags survive, but at the cost of the diaspora that comes with it. We can't separate bad luck from stupidity so there is no choice but to punish both.

>The bar must always be raised
Why? What makes this true? Are we faced with some moral imperative to always produce more than before? Or is this just your personal preference, such that I can counter with my own personal preference that you and your children and your entire family be tortured raped and murdered?

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>gets so btfo all he can do is shitpost

pottery

more like
>I make it possible for the company or business to have value in the first place by putting up large sums of capital to create it
>wow, this guy hired me and is giving me a share of the value, how generous. but wait, due to the overarching circumstances in the economy, that value isn't worth nearly as much!
WTF I LOVE COMMUNISM AND HATE PEOPLE WHO CREATE JOBS NOW

I know...wypipio...

Forgot to mention
>commie
Nahman. Welfare destroyed my family.

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Wage slavery? Meh. America is going to be a socialist country soon, and things will be better for the slave caste. The only thing propping up muh capitalist exploitation anymore is the aging white Boomer population's vote, and they are on the way out. Even tiny GenX will outnumber Boomers by 2028. Changing demographics guarantee that 2020 is likely the last time Texas and Florida ever go red. The same demographic takeover is already ongoing in Montana, Nevada, Wyoming, Arizona, North Carolina, Tennessee, etc. Demographics is destiny, and capitalist bootlickers have already lost. All the left has to do right now is sit back and wait it out. America is going to rapidly shift so far left that vanilla socialism will be the new right wing ideology.

>High school dropout
Lel so you ARE a nigger

he got 25% of value damn better deal than most wage jobs, why are they making this employer a bad guy? He's a saint by comparison.

That's because food service, as an industry, is unsustainable.
The profit margins need to be razor thin to bring customers in due to both competition, and the price of food and labor.
This means that more work is generally required to make profit.

That said, a cook has ZERO risk if he fucks up his job. He can just get another one.
The Restaurant owner will bear the burden of the debt, and holds all the risk in operating the place.

The cook works harder because he isn't contributing anything else to the business EXCEPT his labor.

He's not responsible for buying supplies, paying rent, advertising, repairing or replacing equipment, or dealing with other things the management is required to deal with.

Wtf is that guy wearing on his head?

Well what the fuck is stopping YOU from being on the top? I know what, you never leave your comfort zone. You just rather whine about life being unfair, than grind your way on top. No one ever accomplished anything by staying in their safe little bubble. Also
>Sage

What an excellent illustration of taxation.

A combination of ending up homeless due to white nigger parents and friends who wouldn't help despite being a few months shy of graduation.

It is a styrofoam bowl. For st. Patrick's Day celebration in the break room, they fed us Lucky Charms. It was wonderful being back in school again.

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>tfw 22
>tfw have 4 day weekend for Easter
>tfw about to only work 2/9 days taking 0 vacation, but will make $90k this year
lmao Jow Forums is dumb

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I was going to type up an angry screed in response to OP's daily slide thread, but this cartoon sums up everything.
Thanks user. Well earned (You).