>The controversial question asks, "Is this person a citizen of the United States?" >The dozens of states, cities and other groups that have sued the administration over the question are concerned that it will lead to an undercount of Latinos and other communities of color. That would harm the accuracy of new population counts that play a role in determining how many congressional seats and Electoral College votes, as well as how much federal funding, each state receives after the 2020 census.
Why would non-citizens count toward calculating congressional seats and Electoral College votes?
Because challenging urban elites in their efforts to use hundreds of millions of brown people to disenfranchise the natives is fascism
Ethan Howard
Right, but the question was "why would non-citizens count toward calculating congressional seats and Electoral College votes?"
Jose Reed
Why are you asking, racist?
Samuel Cook
If you're just going to reply with buzzwords, please stop replying.
Nicholas Rivera
>its controversial to ask if somebody living in your country is a citizen fucking how
Benjamin Brooks
You already know the answer that they shouldn't.
Connor Russell
>You already know the answer that they shouldn't. But they don't count towards calculating either of those things, so where's the issue?
Aaron Parker
This is the lunacy of the left wing in America. They already got jus soli citizenship jammed through after the Civil War via extortion. They want to expand that program of ethnic destruction of the Anglo-European descendants. Open borders, welfare for all Mexican and Central American immigrants, and high taxes to pay for it, all while they laugh and cheer that the European-Americans are being replaced. All because 5% of their ancestors living innawoods and unable to be stopped from doing so imported and owned some slaves, which somehow justifies taking out revenge on different people hundreds of years later.
Levi Watson
Yeah, but why would non-citizens count toward calculating congressional seats and Electoral College votes?
Angel White
> what is sarcasm
Autism
Jacob Stewart
>what is sarcasm One of the lowest forms of discourse?
Henry Parker
They actually do count toward those numbers, that’s the problem. California has 5 more votes for president because of all the beaners
Connor Gray
They shouldn't be, but under the current system for the census they are. As it stands now - electoral college votes, distributions of elected officials, and federal funding are all based on total residents in a state and does not take into consideration whether those residents are citizens or even here legally. That needs to change.
Owen Cox
>As it stands now - electoral college votes, distributions of elected officials, and federal funding are all based on total residents in a state and does not take into consideration whether those residents are citizens or even here legally. Oh.
That's pretty messed up.
Lucas Harris
THIS IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE IN AMERICA.
THE 2020 CENSUS IS THE ENTIRE REASON FOR THE IMMIGRATION CRISIS.
- INCREASING DEMOCRATIC VOTERS - INCREASING NUMBER OF HOUSE SEATS - INCREASING CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATION FOR DEMOCRATS - INCREASING FEDERAL FUNDING FOR DEMOCRAT CITIES - INCREASING POLITICAL REPRESENTATION AND FUNDING FOR MINORITIES - INCREASING NEED FOR (((SOCIAL SERVICES))) FOR ALL THE DESPERATE INVADERS. - ETC
THE CENSUS WILL COMPLETELY RESHAPE THE POWER DYNAMICS. THE WALL IS A FUCKING FARCE, IT'S A DISTRACTION, IT'S NOWHERE NEAR ADEQUATE FOR THE REAL ISSUES.
Jow Forums IS BEING DISTRACTED AND FOCUSED ON ALL THE NON-ISSUES, MEANWHILE THE IMMIGRANT INVASION AND CENSUS EXPLOITATION WILL COMPLETE THE DEMOCRAT/GLOBALIST TAKEOVER AND PERMANENT DISENFRANCHISEMENT OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
CANNOT POSSIBLY OVERSTATE HOW IMPORTANT THIS ISSUE IS. SPREAD THIS AROUND, MAKE THREADS, ETC.
Isaiah Cox
>being so stupid you don't see why counting only citizens is a blatant attempt to distort demographics I'm a white immigrant from Europe. Wasn't a citizen for my first 10 years here. Maybe that's why I can tell this is a blatant pile of bs to defend?
Samuel Howard
>Wasn't a citizen for my first 10 years here. Why would you brag about this?
Nicholas Gomez
>thinks stating facts is bragging So glad I wasn't educated here. Country is amazing, but damn the school system is a failure.
Lincoln Taylor
they don't
Aiden Bennett
One of you is lying
Elijah Price
>counting only people who can vote is stupid when deciding how many Congressional seats there are for elected representatives Go back to whatever shit hole you came from.
Owen Gray
In a sane world Trump would blanket pardon all Americans who kill and or imprison Illegals. When are politicians going to be held accountable? When? What are you waiting for?
Christopher Jenkins
>thinks this is how a census is supposed to work or how they made electoral college Jesus Christ. Do you not learn basic government of your own country in school anymore?
Carson Wood
Because Democrats realize their policies are retarded and no actual Americans will vote for them so instead they just want to import voters that will live off of welfare and vote for them or help them out until they die
Zachary Harris
>What are you waiting for? What's this supposed to mean
Chase Nelson
You've said that twice and how obvious it was to be against it once and have yet to make an argument.
Connor Thomas
Why wouldn't I? It's amazing to me. You claim the census should opt for blatant gerrymander-esque bs because you don't like that the proper counting methodology results in an situation you don't enjoy. But it's the system. You're mad that it isn't what you want. What more is there to say?
Isaiah James
>I'm a (((white))) immigrant from Europe.
Landon Wilson
The Constitution is for Citizens, non-citizens shouldn't be allowed for vote or affect congressional districts.
If I moved to Australia for a year, why should I be counted in their Census?
Ryder Hernandez
So you're actually still an illegal in this country. I get it now.
William Clark
>uh oh he actually responded to me!!! >better call him an illegal!! I'll take that as conceding.
Gabriel Brown
Welp, I was wrong. Most states do count non-citizens for the purpose of apportionment at the federal and state levels. That great disaster the 14th Amendment demands this form of counting for federal representation, but the right of states to count otherwise has not been decisively ruled on by SCOTUS.
Ryder Nguyen
This. They don't even pay federal tax or state tax. The only tax they pay is sales tax.
>previously >no taxation without representation
>now in clown world 2019 >representation without taxation
Joseph Carter
were you illegal?
Camden Brooks
Will there be a MENA category this time?
Benjamin Anderson
No? Went through all the steps. Work visa to green card lotto.
Benjamin Gomez
>I AM SILLY It's not gerrymandering to only count citizens, since only citizens have a say in the election process for the seats created from the census. You already claimed you were an illegal, so it's not hard to see you're probably still one.
Connor Ortiz
>its not fudging numbers to blatantly ignore how the number is intended to be calculated per the rules Ok. >illegal Lol
Austin Russell
>No? are you making a statement or are you not sure if you were illegal?
Christian Long
Based, spoken like true Census worker.
Christopher Rodriguez
Are you trying to go somewhere with this or just pretend to be "trolling"
Jeremiah Edwards
Because that's what the Constitution requires. Though immigration certainly was something that was happening during the writing of the Constitution, they couldn't imagine that one day the nation would be ruled by those who opened the doors and welcomed in huge numbers of migrants from incompatible cultures. It simply never occurred to them that illegals would be an issue. They were more focused on slaves and natives.
Jordan Morgan
sorry didn't mean to offend you wasn't trying to make fun of you i know you esl guys are sensitive about your english skills
Nathaniel Torres
So the latter. Good troll dude. Here's a (You).
Daniel Johnson
the constitution was also written well before social programs became a thing, or city/state governments would allow non-citizens access to social programs that citizens aren't even entitled to....
Brody Gomez
i don't see how asking for clarification of your ambiguous statement is trolling which country did you come from?
Luis Mitchell
>Why would non-citizens count toward calculating congressional seats and Electoral College votes?
because it helps democrats
Dominic Reyes
>I don't see how my clear attempt at "not understanding you" was trolling :^) (You).
Jordan Hill
So doesn't this mean that in effect, illegals do vote? Not directly, but only the electoral college directly votes to begin with. While admittedly it means that illegals technically vote Republican in AZ and TX, those in CA, NM, NV, VA, and NY vote Democrat.
Aaron Morales
seriously what country?
Levi Rogers
Its still early. Can Trump push it to the Supreme Court?
Nathaniel Kelly
Because if they can’t vote, they can at least be used to strengthen the vote of those that bank off of them. More than one way to skin a cat
John Allen
Will Jared let him?
Angel Martin
This is insane, it’s so clear the democrats are subverting electoral politics.
Blake Allen
If this question isn't on there next year then I'm gonna burn down my house.
>APRIL 18, 2019 — Counties with the largest numeric growth are all located in the south and the west, with counties in Texas taking four out of the top 10 spots according to new U.S. Census Bureau population estimates released today. By metropolitan area, Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, Texas, had the largest numeric growth with a gain of 131,767 (1.8 percent) in 2018, followed by Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, Ariz. with an increase of 96,268 (2.0 percent). Migration, both domestic and international, as well as natural increase contributed to the growth in each of these areas, with natural increase serving as the largest source of population growth in Dallas and domestic migration serving as the largest source in Phoenix.
>“One interesting trend we are seeing this year is that metro areas not among the most populous are ranked in the top 10 for population growth,” said Sandra Johnson, a demographer in the Census Bureau’s Population Division. “Though no new metro areas moved into the top 10 largest areas, Phoenix, Seattle, Austin, and Orlando all experienced numeric increases in population since 2010, rivaling growth in areas with much larger populations. This trend is consistent with the overall growth we are seeing in the south and the west.”
>Metropolitan Areas >Growth: >Two of the 10 fastest-growing metro areas in 2018 are in Texas: Midland, Texas (first), with a growth of 4.3 percent (7,383) and Odessa, Texas (fifth), with a growth of 3.2 percent (4,951). Positive domestic migration contributed to the growth in both areas. Florida and Utah also each contains two of the fastest-growing metro areas in 2018. >Decline: >Of the 390 metro areas within the 50 states, the District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico, 102 (26.2 percent) experienced population decline in 2018. All metro areas within Puerto Rico decreased between 2017 and 2018, including Ponce, Puerto Rico (-4.6 percent); Mayagüez, Puerto Rico (-4.3 percent); Aguadilla-Isabela, Puerto Rico (-4.0 percent); San Juan-Carolina-Caguas, Puerto Rico (-3.9 percent); and Guayama, Puerto Rico (-3.8 percent). The five fastest-decreasing metro areas (excluding those within Puerto Rico) were Charleston, W.Va. (-1.6 percent); Pine Bluff, Ark. (-1.5 percent); Farmington, N.M. (-1.5 percent); Danville, Ill. (-1.2 percent); and Watertown-Fort Drum, N.Y. (-1.2 percent). The population decreases were primarily due to negative net domestic migration.
