Why is ist so hard for normalfags to admit that women have significantly easier time dating and finding partners than...

Why is ist so hard for normalfags to admit that women have significantly easier time dating and finding partners than men?

The old lock and key analogy is cilched, but still true and every time you bring it up they get upset.

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Because your average normalfag can't admit something that contradicts their "equality" or they're a closet incel who's overly sensitive about the topic.

Easier doesn't mean completely hopeless, and the lock and key analogy doesn't fit that anyways. Was there something you were looking for advice about? If it's just general women suck shit, take it to Jow Forums.

Yeah, why do women tell other men they don't try hard enough when they have to put almost no effort?

The world is unfair. Why do certain children go hungry while kids in America get obese on tendies? Life sucks, you work with what you have, the end.

True so we should stop pretending that people are equal

Thanks for admitting that the problem exists, though the rest of your points are as shallow as can be.

everyone knows it though, it's not a secret

meant for

This thread again? Fuck off back to r/incels.

Nothing about equality has to with getting your pecker wet bro, so I don't know what you want. Sorry no one likes you. I hope it's fulfilling to complain online rather than do anything about it.

They don't. This is universally known and understood. What we don't like is how you choose to say "hurr it's harder for me than others and that's unfair so I'm gonna go on the internet and cry about it non stop and do nothing about my shitty life".
That's whats irritating. Go outside nigguh.

They still gotta do something. Dress up, put on makeup, go get their hair done. I can't imagine wasting so many hours of my day for those petty shitty activities that also cost money. At least, if they wanna date above their range.
Most women get triggered by this no matter the context and the way you point it out. Robs them of the illusion of being the ones actually picking the partner or something, dunno. Maybe being generalized and made not so special anymore.

>They still gotta do something. Dress up, put on makeup, go get their hair done.
they don't actually HAVE to do that, they just convince themselves that they have to

>At least, if they wanna date above their range.

They're constantly flooded with creeps and weirdos, and saying no provokes really terrible responses. Even if they find a good guy, there's a pretty good chance he'll hit n quit. That's partially why they have their guard up so high.
Wanting to have it "as easy" as a woman is a monkey paw wish.

sage

what does that even fucking mean?

No they don't. Incel "nice guys" like you are desperate for sex and validation so you can't separate that from dating and fufilling relationships. That's why it seems like women have it "so much easier" because your own definition of happiness is simply having someone you find attractive like you back.

A cousin of mine (girl) has/had self-esteem issues because of her weight and she got pump-and-dumped quite a bit and it would cause her to go on a downward spiral of depression.

Some guys would be nice to her and she would think "Oh wow this guy actually likes me!" Then they would date and go out a few times and then finally they would fuck and then they would either:

A. Ghost her
B: Make increasingly aggressive/demeaning demands of her (the dynamic being "You should be glad someone even wants you you sow") and THEN ghosting her

Like imagine how pissed and depressed you would be if a girl lead you on and used you for meals and entertainment, then ghosted you when you actually want a relationship or for her to put out? Now imagine that except that instead of it just being money, she also humiliated you and made you look like a foolish moron to all your friends/family.

I don't envy them at all. Overall being a male has more ups than downs, but maybe i'm being biased being a male and all.
That a kinda ugly girl can come our pretty pretty if she dresses up and puts on makeup and has nice hairstyle. She can wash her face with soap, do a bun and put on some used up clothing from her mom and still attract some people, but far less desiderable.

You sound like an absolute retard. Just because you and your cousin are idiotic and naive women doesn't mean the rest of the population is.

>That a kinda ugly girl can come our pretty pretty if she dresses up and puts on makeup and has nice hairstyle. She can wash her face with soap, do a bun and put on some used up clothing from her mom and still attract some people, but far less desiderable.
so it's a way for average females to artificially increase their sexual market value leaving average men in the dust?

Basically. But also implies more competition between girls because their general level raises considerably, so even naturally beautiful girls have to fear a competitive specimen that would have stood no chance, normally.
It also means that those that will lose the battle will be higher quality leftovers for losers to fight for. Instead of having unupgraded leftovers.

You seem pretty reasonable honestly.
I feel it's easier being a male, but I also feel it's impossible to make that judgement because not many has really experienced both.
I once went on a Google spree trying to find out how transgendered people's lives changed after convincing and successful transitions.
The answers are unbelievably mixed. Women who became men saying it's way better and they're treated better and taken more seriously, and some saying they didn't realise how fucking hard it is for a man to live with all the expectations.
Some men to women saying it's awesome for reasons I can't remember, some saying they were once treated as experts in their fields and now men less educated than them even assume they know nothing and talk to them like children.
Still too mixed to actually make a judgement, and these were all in forums and blogs, so they're allegories.
I would love to see a mass analysis of experience of "passable" transgenders.
For now I'll say it comes entirely down to perception, and what you individually consider to be an advantage or disadvantage.

this seems like such a miserable ordeal
our society is mind fucked like no other lol

Men can wear makeup too though. And a lot do now a days. I've had a few female friends wake up next to a dude after a few dates and the pillow is covered with more foundation than they'd ever consider using on themselves.
It's an option.

Still smarter than the dumbest group of them all, the incels.

I don't ever want to be that insecure about my looks
if a person cant accept me without covering my face in shit then they aren't for me

Sex and love is a basic need

On the one hand agreed.
On the other I don't think everyone sees it that way. Instead of looking at it as being insecure and not wanting to show their real face they see it more as giving themselves an advantage.
Better looking people are treated better and taken more seriously by everyone. You don't have to be insecure to want to take advantage of this.

>what you individually consider to be an advantage or disadvantage.
Basically. I often hear i have a "smart face", whatever that means. Guess bookworm cliche face. This is a down with girls because it gives off no good vibes (with most, some do like it tho) but helps with work since people tend to find you reliable and with solid knowledge. Obviously if you are actually retarded they find out soon enough, but still helps. In my field it's useful.
Stupid example, just to give the idea.
Kinda. Those are petty concerns tho and of little relevance overall. If you don't wanna stand by those rules, just don't do it. There will be always people like that.

>Better looking people are treated better and taken more seriously by everyone. You don't have to be insecure to want to take advantage of this.
yeah so if you're male why not go lift instead of putting on make up like a faggot?

This and grooming your facial hair.
>putting on make up

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>Just pull yourself up by the bootstraps

Sex and love is NOT a basic need. You won't drop dead if no one loves you. People live long healthy lives without sex or love.

>People live long healthy lives without sex or love.
not mentally healthy I assure you
if it happens it's extremely rare

You are not getting girls because you are not mentally healthy, not the other way around.

and the bad mental health came from self imposed social isolation
and it's just a downward spiral at some point because it makes you unappealing which makes your mind worse when you get nowhere socially

why is it so hard for incels to admit that the fact that they cant find a girl is their own fucking fault?

Because wamen have it hard everywhere they go. They work less because of sexism, they buy more stuff because of patriotarchery and dating is harder because everyone stumbles over each other to tell them how available they are.
You have no idea what struggles they don't go through because you don't respect women enough.

It’s not easier for women, it’s more chaotic because guys are tossing their dicks at them metaphorically.
If you where a woman, would you really be that happy about everyone wanting to fuck you? Or would you feel hesitant to get with someone just looking to pump and dump? If you don’t care about stds, unwanted pregnancy or getting raped then more power to you you fuckin slut.

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Not even worth a (You)

Because of chad's turnover vs the virgin anxiety syndrome.
(which they also know applies to women as well)

Because personal responsibility hurts their ego, if they can blame their unhappiness on others they can stew in it instead of do hard work to change.
Incels are pedos from what I hear, they seem to think mature women aren’t worth loving but a young virgin girl is so “innocent” and “perfect”. I don’t know about you but a vast majority of young women I knew growing up aren’t innocent, the more strict their parents the more she goes around blowing her guy friends. Incels watch anime porn and they think life is just like that lol

dude the funniest shit in the world is when incels think sex is like hentai in real life and then get upset that they dont measure up to the standard of gargantuan monster cocks that ravage the organs of anime girls

Yeah it's always fault of men, girls never have to take responsibility for anything EVER

>The old lock and key analogy is cilched, but still true
That analogy is complete bullshit. So a man is valuable if he fucks as many women as possible but a woman is valuable if she fucks as few as possible? How does that even make sense? In order for a man to be valuable, he must reduce the value of women and vice versa. One gender’s value would always have to be sacrificed for the value of the other.

a males value comes from how many offspring he can create, a females value comes from how well she rears his offspring

>dude just lift bruh
What if you have ugly face

Japan is the incel nation, nobody is fucking except Australian and American tourist looking for some Japanese booty.
Japanese men in their 20’s don’t date, they either fap to porn or go to a sex worker. I don’t blame them, Japanese women don’t inspire much excitement beyond being attractive and polite.
Western women are more dramatic and interesting to live with, I prefer German women but that’s just my genetics.

>a key that can open many locks is a good key, but a lock that can be opened by many keys is a shitty lock
The lock and key analogy is focused on sex, not offspring

This is a gross oversimplification of human life and a subjective opinion.

The true meaning of life is to feed the soil as walking fertilizer.

That's fine.
But when you start attributing this to how you think people should behave youve become a tool.

Because they are scared and dumb.

The true meaning of life is to submit to Allah

Incels also exhibit homosexual traits, whenever they talk about "pure virgins" they talk about it in the terms of other men's cocks and cum defiling them. When they talk about what girls like, they wrap it in terms of "chad", a big tall muscular guy with a big cock.

Ask the men who are uglier than you and still get laid.

The problem is most incels peg themselves at an 8 or up while most people land comfortably at a high 7 after extensive cleanup, so incels almost invariably shoot out of their range and then just get mad about it.

Incels in general are normal looking and not ugly. But they refuse to admit it's their shitty personality and constant anger and entitlement that turns girls off.

Now this is projecting

The entitlement is the root of the high self-grading. It's all part of a big cycle.

Read the Road Dahl excerpt on ugly people. It fucking hits home whether incels like it or not