I'm a virgin and would at some point like to find a long-term "fuck buddy" to train me to get good at sex and explore fetish shit together.
In the mean time I would like to find a girl to dirty chat with so she can tell me intimate details about her sex life. How does one find such a girl when most casual sex sites are aimed at actually fucking the people there (and are also 90% camgirls trying to get money out of you).
Also, are "virgin trainers" a thing? How would I go about finding one of those?
yeah don't have any answers for you but I agree that a lot of my problems would be solved if a girl just threw me a bone and agreed to sexual experimentation
Luke Campbell
sorry to be harsh, but this is honestly kind of an autistic thing to want. it'll be hard to find a woman to agree to this. main issue: what are you offering in return? These posts just scream selfishness.
Jordan Rogers
I'm OP and you are 100% correct
Adrian Ward
I’ve trained several virgin girls from sites like these, but never heard of a virgin guy being trained. But you could just put it in your profile and see what happens
Logan Morris
I wholeheartedly recommend that you lose your virginity naturally and with someone you genuinely care about and not because you want to lose your virginity as quickly as possible - the latter will result in stunted emotional growth and potentially intimacy issues down the line. You can take my opinion with a pinch of salt of course.
To start off, how old are you? Depending on your age and where you are in your life, that will help determine what's the best way to find a fuck buddy. If you literally just want someone to booty call for sex, your best bet in most cases will be to find someone on Tinder, assuming you're attractive enough as most girls on there are either very shallow or just seeking validation from gaining loads of matches.
As for finding a "virgin trainer", they're not really a thing to be honest - most women do not want to teach you or guide you to understanding sex or emotions, and pretty much expect you to already know or have some understanding. As you're starting from square one, honestly the easiest and most likely way is to just try for yourself and figure out what works and what doesn't. Do some research on the basics of sex and find out what each girl you sleep with is into and isn't in to - communication and selflessness are key in sex. You might luck out and find some girl who's looking for a power trip and will take you under her wing, but that's pretty rare and you'll normally only find from someone you already know as opposed to a random stranger.
With all this set aside, is everything okay OP? This post is screaming that something isn't quite right and you're looking for a quick fix or that something has harmed you before.
Blake Butler
Not OP here but I basically want the same thing as him.
I want a long term relationship, eventually, and am interested in dating. But I'm 23 years old with literally zero experience in every area both sexual and romantic, and I don't want to ruin my chances with a girl I really like be being an awkward nervous wreck on a date or in bed.
How am I supposed to learn how to do these things if a girl isn't willing to teach me? At 23, "learning by trial and error" really isn't a viable option. I don't have that kind of time or freedom to do the same kind of trial and error that most people did in their teens. I need a relatively quick program to get me from zero experience to "passably decent at sex and comfortable on dates", before I end up a 25+ KHV and totally incomparably fucked and out of luck.
Samuel Bailey
>and romantic but with that trial and error IS your only option, because people are okay with "no strings" sex but not with "no strings" romance which would be horrible
Gabriel James
Yes, obviously.
What I really need is just a girl who is okay with me being shit at romance and sex. I don't necessarily need someone to teach me, just for them to not laugh at me, judge me or reject me when I inevitably end up being a terrible kisser, awkward in bed, and awkward on a date.
Nicholas Jenkins
Isn't that what every guy wants. I was in your situation and I did find what I was looking for. But it wasn't in a random stranger it was in someone I knew. Honestly I recommend doing a lot of research beforehand so you can like satisfactory on your first time and the girl will naturally want to come back. Might sound crazy but worked for me. Good luck OP.
Levi Cook
I'm the femanon who posted this and i would really rather fuck a guy who was a virgin again than someone who obsessed and went on some virgin training program I know this is a weird time to bring up my brother but he's 23 year old virgin and he's the greatest person I know. He just doesn't care and is waiting for the right person, which I really admire. There are a lot of men in your position who retain their confidence and just don't stress about unnecessary things. Just try to meet someone who you like and who likes you, go on a couple dates the mention the virgin thing after you've kissed but before the full on sex. Trust me, you'll be okay. If they aren't okay with it, they aren't a very good woman. The best thing to do as a KHV would be to read and watch some tutorials on how to please a woman. Then meet someone naturally, tell them you are a virgin, but be very open and curious, and try to focus on her reactions, and do more of what makes her react. In the moment, if you feel comfortable enough around someone, it isn't too hard. The first time is awkward, but it comes more naturally then you would think.
Thomas Anderson
Research is the key my child. Just look it up the Internet is a wonderful place. You just need to remember like 1 or 2 simple tricks that 70% of guys fail to do and she'll be hooked on like a wasp in soda.
Justin Smith
>I know this is a weird time to bring up my brother but he's 23 year old virgin and he's the greatest person I know. He just doesn't care and is waiting for the right person, which I really admire. But i'm not "waiting for the right person". Not at all. I'm not a virgin by choice. I'm a virgin because no one ever wanted to date me, or even kiss me. This is despite me trying repeatedly to put myself out there, having a robust social circle, and being told by friends both male and female that I am apparently "attractive". No one ever wanted to even kiss me in 23 years. I've never been on a date.
It's hard to put into words how stunted I feel because of this.
Alexander Moore
if you manage to find a girl that likes you even a tiny bit she probably won’t care you’re an inexperienced virgin
Daniel James
>You just need to remember like 1 or 2 simple tricks that 70% of guys fail to do and she'll be hooked on like a wasp in soda. Like what?
Caleb Evans
If in 23y you're still KHV that means you're doing something wrong I guess. Do you lack self-confidence and just create akward situations ? There can be a lot of different obstacles. Maybe you need to change something about yourself since what you are now has not been able to achieve somting in 23y. It sounds a bit harsh sorry
Logan Young
I'm sorta similar OP, I really just want to lose it because I don't want to give my virginity to a woman who isn't one herself, if we were dating. I'm not really interested in being the inexperienced one in the relationship.
Charles Ross
Wow don't get me started
Alexander Lee
>Do you lack self-confidence and just create akward situations ? I lack sexual self-confidence due to my kissless virgin status.
I find it impossible to believe that any woman would be attracted to me.
I find that pretty much every girl just treats me as a friend. They're kind to me and enjoy my company, or seem to, but they never flirt with me, never make sexually charged compliments, never seem to have eyes for me as a potential partner.
I would do anything to find out what I'm doing wrong here.
Jacob Thomas
But I was also curious about the casual sex/just doing it for the sex scene as an end goal. You don't show up to a swingers club or a fucking BDSM club as a virgin. And I know that shit is easier to get into with a girlfriend, but why not with a fuck buddy instead? The main problem they typically seem to have is having individual guys who want in on the fetish shit and expect tons of hot girls to already be there, and bringing a fuck buddy along rather than a girlfriend is basically the same to them in regards to that problem. If romance is not the end goal, how does one find a fuck buddy willing to put up with virgin awkwardness?
Joshua Sanchez
In my opinion its because you put yourself in this "oh I'm only a friend situation" that you're considered as friend. You need the right mindset to win. Know what you want and act upon it
You have to be funny but not to funny sometimes you need to be serious and just make a move and take a risk.
In conclusion of my three part, well structured essay, just but yourself in the mindset of I have to kiss this girl and act upon it. There are plenty of girls that will be right for you and whose fetish is Virgin boys. kill that shit
Dominic Cook
It just seems so difficult. Attracting women seems like an impossibly complex puzzle, and I was born without the skills to solve it.
Nicholas Cook
No no no that's exactly what you need to change: putting yourself down, girls just hate a guy with no confidence. As a girl I know this trust me. You have to be relaxed and make them laugh a little and then be a little serious. It will all go smoothly.
I can train u padawan
Matthew Martin
I can make girls laugh. But it never goes further than that. "Oh, you're so funny user!" and then an hour later I see them flirting with some other guy...
Benjamin Rivera
Lower your expectations, use online dating to practice. Don’t go in to it just looking to fuck from the first message you send. Ask something that’ll get her encouraged to respond. If you’re bad at writing, I suggest practice using an extensive vocabulary when you want to draw attention to a statement or question. You need to be good at something sports,cooking,making music,art ect.. whatever it is you have to use your talents to stand out.
The reason why online dating is all there is, because of the “me too movement” trying to chat up women in public events gets seen as creepy now. Unless you look like you just got off a movie set, then women will bend over backwards to hang out.
Joshua Hernandez
I can't google this stuff when I can't know what you want me to look for. Is kissing necks one of the simple things? I dunno, could be. Help me out please?
Lincoln Anderson
Please train me too. I am a 27 KHV and I've been into a bottomless pit of depression for years, I think I lack all the social skills to properly develop into a sentimental relationship with a woman, even though I'm well aware of my weaknesses, I don't know how to act up upon them, I'm an awkward unfunny person and I feel this vibe every time I'm around people I really like, I feel like they can smell it, the funny thing is with others I do relatively well and they seem to be ok with my presence. I am a decent looking person but I don't think I can have a normal/meaningful conversation with people, it's like I've missed a huge part of my adolescence and early adult years that I won't recover, it's like I'm missing something essential that normal people have, any advice?
Nathaniel Brown
Desperation: the thread
Justin King
>bunch of virgins with no sexual experience >LOL U DESPERATE
thank you captain obvious
Liam Gonzalez
>are "virgin trainers" a thing you know absolutely nothing about sex or women
Jace Rogers
Yes? You get the premise of the thread, good job.
Robert Miller
Okay I can try but don't promise anything. First of all look at yourself in a mirror and ask yourself why am I special ? What is unique about me ? Try to analyse your qualities and defects.
The thing about KHVs is that it is a vicious circle. Because you're a KHV you lack confidence and therefore tend to not be good with women and you continue being a KHV. You have to break out of that circle.
Fucking captcha btw failed like 3 fucking times
Owen Cook
Do you have any advice for someone who'd tried more or less everything but still can't get a girls number? I've tried online dating but got zero matches and replies, been clubbing numerous times but no girls were interested. Same thing at college, girls give one word answers and walk off.
Lucas King
I haven’t read this thread, but have you tried a family member? My cousin and I experimented on eachother when we were 12 and 15 years later we’re both married to women and still going at it.
Adam Baker
Those are called escorts. Yes they can train you in sex