Is it better to learn Chinese or Japanese?

>educated people speak english
Well yeah.

That's like asking if you want a revolver or a rocket launcher. Completely different applications. Languages are tools you should learn to fit your use case. Even if you just want to "learn a language" or "be a polygot" you will have applications, like talking to people or bragging about how many languages you know.

I also had a shit experience with a chink in college during a programming project. Motherfucker did close to jack shit and I had to do all the damn work.

>Japanese is easier

Doesn't Japanese language has a very complex grammar compared to Chinese?

The sentence structure is weird, for example. Instead of: Subject Verb Object, the Japanese sentence structures is: Subject Object Verb. The language always puts the verb at the end of the sentence.

Arabic, Japanese, Chinese, and Korean are all considered Class 4 "super-hard languages" for english learners by the US state dept.

>Doesn't Japanese language has a very complex grammar compared to Chinese?
Absolutely. In Chinese if you know all the words in the sentence it's pretty easy to figure out the meaning; the sentence structure is relatively similar to English and the language is very sparing with words.

In Japanese you can know all the words but still have no clue what the fuck is going on because of the sheer amount of idiomatic expressions and indirect/implied speech. Also, stuff that is bad form in English (the shit your English teacher told you to avoid) is absolutely normal in Japanese.
For example, double- and triple-negatives are normal.
Quotations (themselves complete sentences) as adjective clauses, embedded in other complete sentences.
Stacking verbs of different tenses is permitted and

Also, Japanese has pitch accent. It's not as important as it is in Chinese, but you still need to learn it if you don't want to sound autistic.

Japanese uses the "traditional" character set rather than the "simplified" set used in mainland China right now. (Simplified is faster to write, but whether it's easier to learn is actually up for debate.)
In Japanese, nearly every character has multiple readings, severely complicating the task of looking up words and also forcing you to memorize more words rote. In Chinese, the majority of characters (>60%?) have just one reading, and most of the rest only have two.

So yeah as for which one is easier, it's hard to say.
But I think the age of China is coming, so Chinese will be more useful in the next couple decades. You should go with Chinese.

China is crumbling and will never be a superpower. Their system is built on debt and pollution and fraud and is not sustainable. It will stay around as a second grade power like Russia but will never lead the world like US or Europe.

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>Stacking verbs of different tenses is permitted and
...and the order of tenses can alter the meaning in a big way.
The only real way to practice is to read stuff. Grammar books will not get you there.

>Their system is built on debt and pollution and fraud and is not sustainable.
You do know that the US dollar is backed only by consumer confidence, and is loaned to the US government at interest by a central bank, and that banks are permitted to loan money to consumers that they don't actually possess, i.e. it's debt-based?
You do know the US had severe pollution issues in its major cities, right?
You do know that the US's considerable base of wealth was established by exploiting free human labor?
You do know that the US's financial system is not sustainable and must eventually collapse?
You do know that fraudsters and con men run rampant in US financial circles, and that businesses purchase influence from lawmakers?

And yet all of these things didn't stop the US from becoming a superpower... why, then, whould they stop China?

>It will stay around as a second grade power like Russia but will never lead the world like US or Europe.
irrelevant really to the question which was "should i learn japanese or chinese"

The difference is that the Chinese government is a mafia and completely opaque. They do not have a system of law. Everything is decided arbitrarily by people you don't know even exist and random decisions come all the time, including disastrous ones.

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>You do know that the US's considerable base of wealth was established by exploiting free human labor?
Are you retarded? The US base of wealth was built on industrialization in the northeastern states assisted by excellent waterways, vast natural resources, and tariffs to prevent British industry from stifling American industry.

>The US base of wealth was built on industrialization
And that didn't cost a dime, right?

Then just say that. Listing "pollution", "fraud", and "debt" hurts your case since these are very things that made the US's superpower status possible

>And that didn't cost a dime, right?
No, you idiot, it wasn't free, it was built by American workers.

>it was built by American workers.
did they work for free?
where'd the money come from to pay them?

>is loaned to the US government at interest by a central bank
How on earth did a country let itself get cucked so hard

Learning mandarin will mean more job opportunities. Unfortunately those jobs all involve interacting with people from China, which is soul-crushing as they act like turbo-jews on steroids and will LIE TO YOUR FACE about every single thing

The US didn't become a global superpower until near WW1. The tiff over slavery and the civil war resulted in half the country getting burnt down and the nation in severe debt + generations of butthurt and an entire underclass of poor people and criminals to pay for

Government debt is fine. China's debt model is not, debt has absolutely EXPLODED since 2008. That's bad. It'd be fine if future growth projections paid it off, but China's GDP growth is slowing. That's worse. Keep in mind that these only refer to official numbers, half of China's debt is off the books. That's strike 3.

China's economy is currently dependent on stimulus spending and building infrastructure. If the money spigot from the government ever shuts off the country will enter a recession. China tried getting their debt under control in 201y7 but the stock market shit itself so they issued another round of stimulus.

They have too many hands in the pot, too many state-owned enterprises that are bloated, inefficient, and unproductive yet continue to leech government bucks for the sake of producing do-nothing jobs and prevent labor strikes

>You do know that fraudsters and con men run rampant in US financial circles, and that businesses purchase influence from lawmakers?

Do you think this problem is better or worse in China, which has fewer financial regulations and virtually no transparency requirements? If you think private corporate lobbyists are influential, wait until you see what the government will do to protect the corporations they own.

For the most part, investors and private capitol. America was an objectively weaker nation when it's pollution and fraud problems peaked. Aka the 1920s- which is the best parallel for China's economic situation. Except the robber barons and the government are one in the same

Yes, most people who are worth speaking to are educated.

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Chinese Pros
>massive population that uses it
>business market that is bursting with opportunities
>millennia of history you can tap into at a deeper level
>locals more apt to respect you if you know Chinese & learn about their history, and you'll be less open to scams
>an amazing high-end food culture
Chinese Cons
>the Chinese are exasperating to work with
>if your company knows that you know Chinese, expect to be conscripted for anything they want to do involving China/the Chinese
>tons of scams, pollution, corruption, etc. in China that you will get to deal with
>if the scam involves counterfeit food, it can really fuck up your health
>decades of communist rule have set back culture and media considerably
>China is taking some worrying turns politically, with facial identification systems monitoring the populace, social credit scores ensuring the people are cowed to act certain ways, and censorship is continuing to rise as the party exerts more control
>overt racism towards certain groups of people
>sinoboos are less awkward than weeaboos, but are fucking weird

Japanese Pros
>extremely safe county to visit & major cities are quite modern
>TONS of media, of all varieties, to help you learn the language and enjoy
>excellent Japanese food culture that avoids many of the pitfalls of Chinese food
>Japanese are extremely appreciative if you learn even basic Japanese
Japanese Cons
>the Japanese will prefer to be racist behind your back; at best you're a friendly amusement
>job market, rent/housing for foreigners, government, legal system, medical system, prospects for the future are all pretty fucked for everyone there
>natural disaster prone region; if things get worse with China, or either Korea, getting bombed
>non-Japanese food culture is lacking; Japanese food can be bland and samey by some standards
>language is useless outside of Japan
>everyone will assume you're a weeaboo with yellow fever and shun you accordingly

Learn French it’s elegant

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Where did the money to pay anyone come from? :^)

And how was that private capital accumulated?

but its gay

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