How should health care work in the US?

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Deregulate everything and watch the inflated medical prices drop to nothing.

>they can already charge whatever they want
>deregulate it :^)

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I get hurt, they fix me. I go home, no future bill.

Not an expert, but...
>government-mandated savings accounts

Life expectancy isn't the result of more effective healthcare. We have more niggers and spics in America, and also some crazy ass white people. This is idiot neoliberal thinking, as if people are the same everywhere and the only difference is political structure and economics.

No we can't and neither can Europe for very long

mandated insurance, goverment set limits for prices

The USA is in debth by 22 Trilion dollar already, i suggest you keep it private.

Free blowjobs from nurses

A government-sponsored private insurance company should be allowed to provide subsidized minimal coverage for preventative care
Importantly, this would not be socialized healthcare. Rather, they could leverage their large customer base to negotiate better rates and preferentially opt for cheaper procedures to decrease costs

Pseudo intellectual.

>this has nothing to do with flooding the country with poor thirdworld slave workers who beat themselves to death and don't pay for medical care

>This shit again...

Without the US, the rest of the world would probably still be bloodletting, and huffing mercury. Picture related.

The US healthcare system would work perfectly okay, if we charged the rest of you useless faggots, riding on our dicks, for using our research & innovation.

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Maybe spend a little less bombing poor people?

they have the most expensive healthcare in the world, putting a cap the retarded prices would save them money

a stupid excuse, if it wasn't profitable to sell medical equipment and medication to other countries they just wouldn't do it at all, you act like the US is subsidizing it and they are taking a loss on those transactions.

single company is cancer as well. there should still be multiple companies compeating, but in a well regulated market. they have a system like that in Germany and it's arguably the most effective one in the EU

The more you make, the more you should pay for health care.

That can be done without socialized healthcare
Incorporating uninsured people into subsidized minimal coverage programs would allow for collective bargaining to drive down perscription/procedure costs

healthcare /= academia
money you pay for healthcare does not go into research

Why tho?
They already pay higher costs for current gen drugs and med tech
High income people essentially drive the medical research market that makes US healthcare so attractive

Poor people just need access to an insurance company that offers minimal coverage and a large client base to reduce costs

yeah. another thing is mandatory insurance. the bigger the base of insured people, the more cost effective the whole thing is. also the prices should be regulated, leaving insurance companies unchecked in the US didn't drive them down, on the contrary. normal free market principles don't work in healthcare because people will pay any money to stay alive so Goldberg Insurance can overcharge as it pleases

Gut the pointless regulations and break up the pharma monopolies so they can't patent every drug formula under the sun. If we do those things healthcare costs will plummet and we won't even need to have insurance, and single payer would be out of the question. Having the government take over healthcare would just turn it into a beaureaucratic clusterfuck and make everything more expensive.

The same as it does now but with doctors able to turn away druggies and fatties and with no more gibs given to the jobless

staying alive is not a commodity people can bargain for or decide not to purchase if it's too expensive, thats the reason insurance companies can overcharge. normal principles don't really apply here

>Being this fucking retarded.

Why are big pharma companies pouring so much money into research, genius? Why do universities have so many individuals pursuing the healthcare research sector in the US? Why are so many startups in the US, geared towards medical technologies?

We are. Our healthcare system encourages innovation, at the expense of prices for medicine for our own people. Meanwhile the rest of the world creates cheap knockoffs, so we're left bearing the full brunt of Big-Pharma's prices.

So you're welcome, you commie fucks.

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I agree with everything but
>mandatory insurance
The only way to implement this is with a fine, which ends up targeting young, healthy people working entry level jobs

Also
>the prices should be regulated
Ideally by having a federally-backed nonprofit insurer that has some leverage to negotiate good rates
Much like how USPS leverages volume to force FedEx and DHL to compete or lose clients

While you guys shit on spics you ignore the fact that they get better healthcare and live longer because of universal access to medicaid among them.

They're basically living like Europeans and the only thing refusing universal healthcare is doing is fucking over Whites with plans that cost more and net less

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>How should health care work in the US?

It shouldn't. Dead Americans are good for the world.

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Spics are glorified hapas, ofcourse they'll live longer.
Besides, the US' life expectancy is only low because of cars, we have to drive basically everywhere and as a result we get into more accidents. And also minorities can't drive well, case in point, LA.
But you're right, we need to deport 20 million people before we should even attempt a healthcare overhaul.

>American Flag
>"Living an extra quantity of 2 years > Curing actual conditions that improve quality of life."

How do you even sleep at night?

>send bobs and vegene
Dont even need a flag to understand where this came from

1. Abolish it.
2. Replace it with MEDICAL SERVICES and obliterate all nexus with the state including licenses on practitioners, medical school accreditation and drugs testing.

>The only way to implement this is with a fine, which ends up targeting young, healthy people working entry level jobs
thats why you regulate the prices so that insurance would be affordable even when working at McWagecuck. here the employer mandatorily pays for employees insurance, so the cost is already factored in the wage no matter the job you work
>Ideally by having a federally-backed nonprofit insurer that has some leverage to negotiate good rates
also have multiple of them so they would compete lowering the prices
big pharma sells their shit all over the world on the same price. USA is leading in research because of well funded universitites, not healthcare. that money goes to insurance companies and hospitals. if anything, your education system encourges research at the expense of prices of education for your own people. prices for medical procedures have absolutely nothing to do with it.

1. Remove regulations so that insurance companies are forced to compete across state lines and must actually be competitive instead of creating a cartel.

2. Force more transparency in how insurance companies and hospitals bill customers.

3. Eliminate Medicare and Medicaid. Having government involved in the health insurance industry is a causative factor for the insane costs of healthcare.

4. Create government-funded Health Savings Accounts tied to a conservative market index fund (like a 529 plan) for CITIZENS under a certain income threshold. This helps provide them with money to pay for medical and dental expenses and prevents the government-induced shenanigans required by Medicare/Medicaid.

5. Remove all illegal aliens from our country and require hospitals and medical providers to report on patients' citizenship status. Illegals use Medicaid and Hospital services (due to medical providers being legally barred from refusing service) and therefore cause insurance companies and medical providers to pass those costs onto other customers.

6. Remove the kikes from the boards of insurance and pharmaceutical companies.

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>Meanwhile the rest of the world creates cheap knockoffs
No, the exact same brand name drugs are sometimes orders of magnitude more expensive in the US than in other places

Insurance companies are not the reason healthcare costs more, when people say US healthcare costs a lot they dont mean people are having to buy more expensive insurance plans for no reason, they are pointing out that the end bill of the same procedures and medications are more expensive in the US than anywhere else.

Large bargaining powers drive down prices. even congress knows this, because it being unfair for private insurers to have to compete with the bargaining power of medicare is one of the reasons they RESTRICT just how much bargaining power medicare has. The fucking congress of the united states openly admits prices would go down under large collective bargaining!

I agree except number 4, that's stupid. It's basically what Social Security was supposed to be, and look at it now.

nationalize it

This leaves the problem of state-sanctioned monopolistic control of every aspect of medical education and practice. As an example of this, it's impossible in Sweden or US to get an effective liver- and thus life-saving treatment of mushroom poisoning that is the first-line therapy in Russia and Germany: intravenous maria thistle extract.