I think Trump wins against Biden but loses to Bernie

Try to think from an objective standpoint instead of getting emotional

How are people that delusional to think a socialist jew would make it anywhere close

I think we should look back to the 2016 election to see that Hillary had few rallies compared to Trump, I think any Democrat who holds as many rallies as Trump will beat him. Hillary just couldn't keep up and missed rallying in swing states to get out the vote. It doesn't matter who the democrat is, just keep up with Trump in the rallies and the swing states and you'll beat him.

Bernie stands a better chance than Biden. Too much video proof of Biden groping. Bernie has lost some of his base tho, they feel betrayed he bent the knee to Hillary and what they perceive to be the establishment.

Honestly Trump has 2020 in the bag, Democrats will run Elizabeth Warren with the intention of throwing the election and doubling down on male vs female division.

>americans voting leftist
Nope they will choose anything over common sense politics.

Hillary is also hated in rust belt states for her husband who destroyed manufacturing wages. Bernie is the only left wing candidate who can swing blue collar voters. He has doubled down on trying to court these people, I hope it works.

No and no. Bernie can't pull more than 30% support from anyone over 30. This will be another Goldwater moment. America will not vote for some pie in the sky socialist. Like it or not most people are smart enough to know nothing is free. Biden has a better shot. But he is a walking gaffe machine and doesn't have even remotely the same capability of recovery as Trump. Plus Biden still has his past to get over that sank his other attempts.

Hillary had the largest campaign and war chest ever. She got beat because Trump went after the voters that the Democrats had dropped, poor whites. This is what flipped the Midwest. Democrat made a conscious decision to move from white to brown voters. They reap what they sow.

The Democratic candidate in order of possibility is Sanders, buttigete, biden

Well they did get more votes, turns out theirs more people living in cities but they don't matter because some hick in Ohio vote is worth more than them.

trump will win unless a dem outsider (bernie, tulsi, yang) or the preferred darling (buttgieg) wins the nomination. 2020 is gonna be a shitshow with trump not saying a damn thing about whites and bragging about "nonwhite employment" and how democrats "have a racist history"

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then stop letting trump import his voters you fucking moron

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I think they are all slaves to the kikes, better vote for Vermin Supreme

Wouldn't Trump just run on commieniggas wants to tax you even more, infanticide and wants more illegals?

the absolute state of 4d chess

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This is going to be the trumpshill narrative on "dissident" outlets like the chans. It is targeted marketing just like trumpniggers ran in 2016. Don't fall for it again.

>Trump is a kike puppet
>I’m going to vote for a kike

Yeah, I’ve seen this a few times on here and it blows my mind. I’ll vote for Trump again. I’m not happy but Biden or Bernie will capitulate to Israel too. I’m actually glad Trump took moving the embassy and recognizing the capital off the table.

Imagine having this little foresight. Trump is fighting every day to restrict immigration but you’re so obsessed with instant gratification that you’re indifferent to open border left wing hacks taking over your country
>inb4 Bernie isn’t for open borders!1!1!
Sure he isn’t, he sure as hell won’t be trying to build your wall

Anyone who thinks the majority of Americans are going to vote in an 80-year-old Jew over Trump after the last couple of years is out of their fucking minds.

this its over for Israel and the deep state wait till trump builds the wall in 2020 libs are going to be triggered af man

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>I’ll vote for Trump again. I’m not happy but Biden or Bernie will capitulate to Israel too.
>I’m actually glad Trump took moving the embassy and recognizing the capital off the table.

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If Bernie wins something is truly fucked with this country. Our founding fathers would shit their fucking pants knowing a communist won in the US.

>hurr durr it's muh democratic socialism my goy

Neat idgaf what you call it - communism is communism. If it were up to you fags the term "illegal immigrant" would be hate speech - we can't even say "illegal alien" anymore.

>pic related suck my fat fucking dick cucks

>Your predictions?
Harris is the ZOG choice

>As Democrats Shift Left on Palestine, 2020 Contender Kamala Harris Gives Off-the-Record Address to AIPAC
theintercept.com/2018/03/07/kamala-harris-israel-aipac/

>Kamala Harris Has an Israel Problem. That Is a Deal-Breaker for Me
original.antiwar.com/Michael_Byrne/2019/01/24/kamala-harris-has-an-israel-problem-that-is-a-deal-breaker-for-me/

>Kamala Harris Dons Progressive Mantle in Public, Strips it Off in Private as She Courts Israel Lobby
mintpressnews.com/new-wh-candidate-harris-dons-progressive-mantle-in-public-strips-it-off-in-private-as-she-courts-israel-lobby/254077/

No, I think he's done and it is going to be due entirely to White people staying home. The only reason why he squeaked through is because he made allusions to not being 200% israel first. That is the only difference between his turnout and Romney's.

The "all israel all the time" platform cannot win national elections anymore. They aren't the majority of the republican party by any stretch, but the party can't win without them.

watch Q say to his boomer legions that he will release trump's plans for the future right after the election as long as trump wins 2020 and that if trump doesn't he will "punish" them all by saying that he has been failed by his most faithful followers and an hero.

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If Bernie wins something is truly fucked with this country. Our founding fathers would shit their fucking pants knowing a communist won in the US.

>hurr durr it's muh democratic socialism my goy

Neat idgaf what you call it - communism is communism. If it were up to you fags the term "illegal immigrant" would be hate speech - we can't even say "illegal alien" anymore.

>pic related suck my fat fucking dick cucks

Guess what? The bolsheviks were COMMIES

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National election is a game of chess. They were so tied up in their POC narrative that they forgot that lower middle class whites still are large majorities in Penn, OH, MI, and WI. They quite simply made the largest blunder in modern politics. They underestimated Trump's draw with Hispanic and Black votes and literally abandoned their working class core all to pander to immigrants. He walked into these states and stole them right from under the Democrats noses. They were complacent and took the white vote for granted.

Total vote count doesn't mean shit. The game is the electoral map. Somehow Trump and his full time staff of 100 figured this out and Hillary and her 5000+ staffers couldn't.

By 'them' I mean isolationists in the republican party who are sick of israel and don't see it as some indespensible ally.

biden and trump will both lose to PRESIDENT SANDERS

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Nice argument. There’s no anti-Israel party. The left just plays it up because of the free Palestine leftists.

The rules of the game are clear. Quit bitching fucking loser.

if they put trump in an orange jumpsuit, everyone will think he's naked

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I think you’re seriously overestimating how many voters care at all about Israel, much less base their vote on it

>They underestimated Trump's draw with Hispanic and Black votes
No, they didn't. Trump got roughly the same numbers every other republican gets. 25 and less than 10, give or take.

this is the democrat's elections to lose, as long as they don't act like total spergs over trump russia they can win this next election easily by simply showing people how trump became another neocon puppet like the Bush clan was and ask people if they remember what happened when dubya got his second term. any extra turnout trump got will stay home because they are disillusioned once again.

I'm not overestimating it. It's the slim, marginal difference between Trump and Romney. It might not be entirely about israel, or explicitly about israel for all of them, but it is an opposition to israel-dominated foreign policy priorities and the maintenance of what is seen as an unwanted and unnecessary pseudo-empire.

Yeah and they were predicting half of that.

the only thing they underestimated was how white the midwest and specifically the rust belt still was. come 2020 they are definitely not gonna make the same mistake again by forgetting about white middle class workers, especially those in unions who didn't feel supported. the nonwhite vote didn't help trump in a single state, it only helped when they DIDN'T come to the polls like they did for Obama in Michigan and Florida

Trump loses to Biden. He's not picking up any states and will probably lose at least 3 or 4. If I were him I would just treat this like a second term and do the stuff now that I'm waiting to do then.

>pulling out of Syria
>pulling out of Afghanistan
>starting trade wars with NATO allies
>disarming Syrian rebels
Yes, a total clone of that neocon dubya

you might be right, but overall their is still anti-war sentiment and being pro-israel makes you look pro-war.

>according to polls done in highly liberal cities, DRUMPF has a 1% chance against Bernie, he better pack his bags now!

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>this is the democrat's elections to lose

deja vu

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can you get any more reddit than this?

Nah Bernie's a socialist and hard working Americans know that leads to them losing shitloads of Money for shitty government programs that don't work. Trump wins in a landslide the Dems are shit.

Same. Illegal immigration was the one thing I cared about. Now that it's clear no one will do anything I just don't care. I might vote all dem just to piss off the boomers who think trump is worth his weight in shit.

trump loses to Yang

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>>pulling out of Syria
still have a couple hundred troops there
>>pulling out of Afghanistan
still have a couple thousands troops there
>>starting trade wars with NATO allies
great until you see that he's losing them
>>disarming Syrian rebels
not when he's bombing assad's troops

Trump did better, even much better than Romney almost everywhere. I doubt a single one of those voters cares about the us-Israeli relationship.
They cared that trump was a totally different kind of repub who stood for tariffs, pulling out of wars, etc. You can try to argue that he’s governed the same way Romney would have, to which I’d disagree completely, but as far as the election I guarantee it won’t make a difference

Trump hasn't pulled out of Syria. Troop levels in Afghanistan have gone up. Threatening Germany with sanctions for buying Russian gas instead of American isn't what people wanted out of trade and energy policy.

>polling at less than 2%

Shit's not even funny anymore. Fuck outta here with Millhouse is a meme bullshit

it is on them, their is no reason for them to blow a chance to lose to a neocon when everyone remembers Bush

It will be #Yanggang vs Donald
Yang will lose because he can't meme as hard.

Screenshot this.

Look at the actual margins, not just whether he won a district or state. Razor thin in FL, MI, and PA.

>still have a couple hundred
300 of an original 2000, a token force literally only there to keep Kurds and Turks from throwing shit at each other
>Afghanistan
Plan is to fully withdraw within 3-5 years, currently in peace talks with the taliban to iron out the process
>trade wars
You can pretend that we’re losing if you want, doesn’t change the fact it’s happening and neocons like bush would never have even considered tariffs
>Syria
Bombed him a few times over a chemical strike, barely did anything. Assad still in power, war is pretty much over. No current effort to enact regime change like Clinton and Jeb would’ve loved to do

if you don't want more people to head towards socialism then trump has to reform the economic system of this country to not be extremely pro-globalist corporations. especially if the younger generations aren't living in the same economic world boomers were living in.

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>neocon when everyone remembers Bush

Bush was a good president. idk what you're talking about.

the housing crisis was caused by clinton

>pic related - eat my fucking ass you retarded bitch

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No anti-Israel “party”

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>only there to keep Kurds and Turks from throwing shit at each other
No, it is to occupy oil fields.

Trump having allowed the political weapon and coup attempt with the politically motivated investigations has really put Trump and Republicans in a position that justifies Democrats, media corporations, and "Deep State" efforts to undermine his presidency. If Trump and Republicans are not going to push back and empty tweets are Trump's only efforts to fight then there is no reason to support or reelect him.

If Trump and Republicans are comfortable being pawns in the Democrat, media, and "Deep States" efforts to undermine the 2016 election then there will be no problem with Trump and Republicans being put out of office in 2020.

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>Like it or not most people are smart enough to know nothing is free

Except they're also smart enough to know that also applies to Israel, which is getting everything for free anyway.

I have some bad news for you friend...

I still wouldn’t assign that margin to a foreign policy relationship. Americans don’t tend to know or care about foreign policy issues unless it’s a national scandal or a war. Assuming the economy stays how it is and trump gets a trade win with China and puts up some wall, I don’t see him losing

Me too. I wanted to sit out the midterms but had a last minute MAGA-attack and voted straight (R). Immediately regretted it. Felt like a used up whore. Next time if there's a dem on the ballot talking like Omar or that Cali rep who grilled the JP Morgan Chase exec, I won't hesitate to vote for them.

Trump is the most pro immigration president in american history

What happened in the last couple of years?

>Yang will lose because he can't meme as hard.
because goybook and reddit have such great memes. your memes in 2020 are going to be absolute fucking cringe. you're better off taking the 2016 memes and putting 2020 on them.

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Are you serious?

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Hillary did best in the big liberal cities.

>Americans don't tend to know or care about foreign policy issues
Not quite. They tend to not want to be involved at increasing levels over the last few decades. Isolationism as desirable is the default, even if K Street/J Street media doesn't want to admit it. And more people get their news from somewhere other than the mainstream -- it isn't as easy to pretend nothing is going on through omission.

Obama nigger goes to jail and trump wins 2020

>retard who thinks poor niggers caused the housing crisis instead of jew bankers who overleveraged themselves and threatened to crash the financial system unless they got a bailout

I like how you MIGA shills seriously think anyone outside of Jow Forums thinks of Israel in a negative light, assuming they think about it at all.

By the way, it was Bush's dad who extended Fannie Mae loans to niggers begin with:

They like seeing America First, above any nation, including Israel, not subservient to it.

Wrong - read the article faggot. Can't fight facts, puss. Eat my ass cunt

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read this nigger:

Before Bush's Dad, Niggers didn't even get Federal loans for Housing.

That lackey of banks also wants to kill Assange

>Democratic Congress' view

Lmao - dumb ass nigger can't even read

Again you assume they give a fuck about foreign relations that don't literally involve war.

>Democratic Congress' view

Are you really that fucking dumb? The source you posted literally blames democrats you fucking retard. Holy shit you are fucking stupid. i'm dying over laughter over here

And who signed it nigger? It was Bush, you're shilling for false opposition.

I'm blaming Bush, since he signed the fucking bill.

In 1992 faggot - my source is from 1999, which is closer to 2008? Holy fucking shit you are retarded

Lmao zero logic in blaming HW and letting Bill Clinton slide when his action came 7 years later. You're literally fucking retarded

Before Bush, niggers didn't get any Federal loans, period. So you're blaming Clinton for doing the same thing Bush did, while absolving Bush of any liability?