Did Russians go through decommunismation program after its collapse?

Did Russians go through decommunismation program after its collapse?
Just like the Germans went through denazification program?
If not, why?

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>Did Russians go through decommunismation program
Nope
>why?
kikes

You know that the communist party of Russia has the second most seats in office right? Only 11% votes but still.

I read somewhere that most russians look back nostalgically towards the soviet union because the collapse was so bad and continues to be felt from the 90's.

They just miss being a superpower. They still can't admit to this day that the US is just superior in every given way.

I actually watched an interesting video of gorbachev lately. He basically stated that he stood down and let the Soviet union collapse because civil war was brewing and a civil war in the Soviet union which was armed to the teeth had the potential to become an immensely bloody conflict, perhaps even involving nuclear weapons.
The hero we dont deserve I suppose. Decent guy.

I dont understand their major malfunction. They have a resource rich country, brilliant scientists and engineers, and huge potential. How the fuck do Russians still live the way they do? Dilapidated cities, dilapidated military, dirt roads, no opportunity. Like wtf.

You can't decommunistize what was never communist in the first place

>it wasn't real communism
just lol

most russians are absolute retards

They all look like oldfucks anyways. As soon as they die off so will gommunism in russia.

ive visited, the women are absolutely retarded traitor whores, who cheat on their boyfriends/husbands (they marry young)

most men are drug addicts and retarded and only care about money

BuT GuYS daTS NUt ReUl CommUnism!!!!!

>brilliant scientists and engineers
>huge potential.
Lol

But it true.
I honestly never understand why in the West USSR called "communist state" despite it never achieved communism.

>not real communism
Meme reality

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OH NO NO NO NO

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Those engineers, and scientists are probably captured Germans, and their descendants, most of the good Russians were killed in the war, because human wave attacks are unsurprisingly costly.

> honestly never understand why in the West USSR called "communist state"
Because that's how they called themselves of course! What else?

All of the smart Russians had either left the USSR or were killed in the purges

Paperclip took over 90% of the scientists, Soviets only captured minor engineers

And Russians today are the only ones capable of sending men to the ISS, the US relies on them to get personnel to space

They won the war so they don't need to do that.

>collapse

Being torn down isn't a collapse.

And kind of. Communist parties in basically all the republics, even russia, was banned for several years.

John, try it if you have enought power still.

>Did Russians go through decommunismation program after its collapse?
No.
Look at Ukraine, they had a women running for office.
East European morals are completely fucked

Russia and China both offer that portal to the East. From a western European perspective they should never be allowed to get too powerful. Russia changed a lot when one of the Tsars married a German. It seems both countries underwent mass genocide in the name of creating a utopia dreamt up by another German. I don't know, I think you are onto something here. It might not be the way it has been told to us.

Yeah well back then they could exploit others in their empire, now it's just local mafia. Even though they could have been superpower on their own if they really tried.

>now it's just local mafia
The idea that the mafia wasn't in control under communism is laughable. It's really just a matter of the communist government censoring any mention of the crazy shit going down. Then when it falls all of the darkness is finally there for the world to see, but with a quick slight of hand they manage to make this a result of capitalism and not communism. If you look at China now it has plenty of organized crime activity but it isn't publicized in the local press.

>I dont understand their major malfunction. They have a resource rich country, brilliant scientists and engineers, and huge potential. How the fuck do Russians still live the way they do? Dilapidated cities, dilapidated military, dirt roads, no opportunity. Like wtf.

1 West told them to implement democracy. All western nations are seeing their nations collapse because democracy elects shitty politicians. In west you get shittier politicians every generation. In Russia it was shitty politicians from day 1.
2 brain drain,
3 poor strategy. Russia needs to educate their people in computer science, engineering, business etc. Instead they act as degenerate as the west by importing western culture. They are doing the exact opposite of China. China imports western tech but refuses western culture. Russia does opposite.
4. Corruption. They supress the far-right people that could start making Russia strong for civic nationalism
Russia is following the standard neoliberal programming.

>All western nations are seeing their nations collapse because democracy elects shitty politicians.

No, it's because of our trading with China. We got into a toxic economic situation by propping up failed communist countries with tax dollars in the name of diplomacy. Then we fucked over all the small businesses outside the larger cities by subsidizing amazon, wal mart, and big tech companies mostly via EBT.

USA isn't capitalist these days, and democracy has all but disappeared in a lot of local elections. You know mass migration is a basic Maoist strategy?

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To this day many people in Russia like to say that they 'helped' the other countries in USSR. The fact is that they were the top dogs in USSR, they tried to russify everything as hard as they could, and they stole money from those other republics they 'helped'.

youtube.com/watch?v=jU7sf3p3U_Q&t=

>The idea that the mafia wasn't in control under communism is laughable.
Not really arguing against that, it's just that now they don't have the allies they had in the union. A random dictator in middle east isn't as good of an 'investment' as former soviet republics were.

>USA isn't capitalist these days, and democracy has all but disappeared in a lot of local elections. You know mass migration is a basic Maoist strategy?

democracy is giving every IQ 80 brainlet the right to vote
we have that today
we suffer with elections where the politician avoid any important ideas and manipulate the idiots with rhetoric to win.

and yes america is socialist. so we have the worst of both worlds. we got corporations butt fucking us and then government butt fucking us too.

china and small businesses getting fucked up is because of capitalism trying to lower costs.

Stalin literally was bank robber before revolution.

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>china and small businesses getting fucked up is because of capitalism trying to lower costs.
>small businesses

What? How the fuck would a small business establish a trading partnership with China? That happened when Sam Walton died and handed over the Wal Mart chain to his two sons. Before they were in charge the selling point was that the products were American made. They decided to say fuck that and imported the goods from China completely fucking up our past trade partnerships.

If you wonder who spearheaded that It was Bush and Clinton. They also pushed NAFTA through which led to narco terrorism and all of the immigration. Did you know Bush was working the American Embassy in Beijing when he was a spook?

Now we have immigrants that render all of the progress unions made with labor laws completely irrelevant, and brought in by the same politicians that push for even more strict labor laws.

You think this is because of capitalism? I could agree if not for the fact that when we do vote for laws, like immigration for example, they aren't enforced. We get as far as getting the politician in office the people want, but after that he is hopeless to actually enforce the laws and legislation he ran on because we have subversive criminals embedded in our government - and go figure most of them are far left leaning socialists.

Yeah Mao was a long haired protestor, the evolution of the communist party is an interesting thing

ISS is meme tier public relations project at this point.

There is no reason to build anything at all in space while costs for sending stuff up drop exponentially over time. Best to just wait right now.

i meant capitalism wanting efficiency of scale is what causes wal mart, and other corp like game stop or ace hardware or mcdonalds, to push out the mom and pop shops

and international trade deals is capitalism.
likewise with open borders and free movement of people

>and international trade deals is capitalism.
>likewise with open borders and free movement of people

Those aren't exclusive to capitalism,

Capitalism wanting efficiency of scale isn't capitalism when it is pushed by taxpayers subsidized businesses

I'm not even a big capitalist guy, it's just annoying to see left wing zealots intentionally push the country towards destruction with shitty policies then try to use that as an excuse to push for socialism and the demise of democracy

>pushed by taxpayers subsidized businesses
ur grasping at straws
that's socialism

and our biggest problems like loss of jobs and lower wages are from capitalism wanting to maximize profit and minimize costs.

>I'm not even a big capitalist guy, it's just annoying to see left wing zealots
I'm a nazi dumbass

>that's socialism
that was actually my point

>I'm a nazi dumbass
Well yeah, you took the bait. The right/left dichotomy is used to push people to the extremes until they give up their personal freedoms in exchange for security from the threat of the other side.

>go through decommunismation program after its collapse
more or less. They did had a desocialization. But instand of privatization they made an oligarchy.

No lol.
West helped Germany get better.
Russia was sent Friedman type economic advisors which ended in disaster.

not a true scotsman fallacy

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>Did Russians go through decommunismation program
A little
>why?
Cause marxism is good

>The right/left dichotomy is used to push people to the extremes until they give up their personal freedoms in exchange for security from the threat of the other side.
You're soo brainwashed.

communism/socialism/capitalism left/right spectrum is all based on bull shit abstract enlightenment ideas like equality, human rights, liberty, pursuit of happiness. This is all make up ideas.

Reality is humans are animals and we operate based on animal instincts. The goal of the govt is to protect the race or tribe. there is no need to worry about giving up freedoms for security because. This is a worthless lense.

Ironically america right now has the most amount of freedoms for degenerates, freedoms for foreigners/invaders, freedoms for women and we have the least amount of security, white genocide.

According to pre-Frankfurt Marxist theory there would be a "Socialist" phase before full-on Communist Utopia was achieved. The Soviet Union according to their own theorists was in the "Socialist" stage and moving towards said Utopian pipe-dream.

>Reality is humans are animals
Nice to meet you, animal

You like getting wrapped up in a latex suit and getting whipped? I've been trying to figure out if there is a direction connection between BDSM and people that want to be oppressed by a government. It's like of like liberals wanting minorities to fuck their wives.

>Nice to meet you, animal
cnacNbo bpat

>people that want to be oppressed by a government.
implying homosexuals shoving faggatry up our assess in pride parades and hollywood movies isn't oppression
implying being called a homophobe if you complaign about not wanting to go on a date with a man is not oppression
implying seeing your country being invaded by foreigners isn't oppression
implying that being called racist when you object to immigration isn't oppression

look you cannot build a country that pleases everyone.
I want a country where families can be supported with 1 person working
that required paying men more than women for the same job
this is "freedom" for people that want traditional families but 'oppressive" for feminist dykes that want to be childfree and not be forced into marriage
you are limiting yourself to the liberal mentality when you think in terms of oppressor and oppressed.

KGB colonel rules over us for the past 20 years
1999 - 2019
Before him It was a commie party official
HELLO?

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>helped
kek
Nothing will ever cure these retards
Some people just watch state propaganda every evening for decades.
Just like many did back in the soviet times.

They didn't.
Most of the Russian Mafia that came to the Western world had convictions and no influence in Russia until the collapse

Coincidentally most of them also emigrated to America and Europe via Israel in the 80s thanks to Jewish groups helping resettle "Russians", but thats nothing.

When the Soviet collapse is when the Mafia took power, for example they were laundering money to American Banks(like Republican Bank of NY) who then sent 100Million in USD Cash to Russia via plane.

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>They didn't.
>Most of the Russian Mafia that came to the Western world had convictions and no influence in Russia until the collapse

Yeah they did. Most former military made a shitload of money selling arms on the black market, and when the government redistibuted small plots of land to the citizens mafia bought it all up for pennies and got super rich over night.

Just look at Putin. He is obviously connected and he is former KGB. It's not like this shit is going to be headline news but it's easy to see for anyone that doesn't just regurgitate the three sentences in their highschool history book meant to blame all crime on the evil capitalist boogie man.

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I'd hope so but i do wonder if any White Russians lived to see it

> I've visited
i believe you

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destalinisation was a thing from 1952-1964

>Most former military made a shitload of money selling arms
Yes the Country was in chaos.

>mafia bought it all up for pennies and got super rich over night.
Most of them backed by Western banks via laundered money or loans.

KGB stole and laundered money in last decade before the fall of the Soviet Union,talking hundreds of billions. The billionaires who arose from this Free Market privatization I think had no connections to KGB but criminam or political connections to the current president.

Stalin was the mastermind of the soviet union. Before it was established he knew had to either let lenin or trotsky lead and did not try to become the leader in the begenning because he knew the USSR needed those jewish contacts like jacob shiff to finance them, Once lenin started going crazy he took his place and CLEANSEDD THE USSR of KIKES. He sent them to the freezing cold jewsih oblast birzistan i beleive its called. Stalin called out zionism, and criminalized homosexuality and degeneracy.

Trick question. We don't.

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Actualy the Vory V Zakone ( Eaastern Europe Anti Communist Prison Gang) Snatched everything up in the 90s. Banks in isreal and monaco helpd launder their money. youtube.com/watch?v=1w8zME-uDtw - GREAT DOCUMENTARY on them. Alimzhan Tokhtakhunov a well known theif that lived in Trump tower and bribed the olympics was once on interpool and vanished from interpools wanted list once trump got in. Trump has connects and may be extorted by the vors.

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Kike Ludwig feinberg asset stripping soviet military selling subs to colombian cocaine cartels

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>Did Russians go through decommunismation program after its collapse?
It started right after collapse of USSR. For two decades media has been constantly shitting all over USSR.
But in 2010s popular scientists kicked in and started popularizing their works based on real documents and facts. They slowly changed viewpoint of millions of people, some of whom were extremely anti-USSR.
>Just like the Germans went through denazification program?
No.
>If not, why?
We weren't defeated in war.

lol..American banks laundered much of their money in the 90s. Republican Bank was known to take money unquestion and some American laundering laws in the 90s came in to stop it.

Ludwig aka Tarzan operated and lived in Miami before he went to Russia to sell subs. He was held hostage by a criminal gang in Russia when he was trying to shop for a sub for the colombians, he also never told them he was there buyign a sub. Place was corrupt not run by the Mafia.

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Place was corrupt *and not everything* was run by the Mafia, because they would have been on in the sale instead of letting Ludwig go free on promise of selling them colombian cocaine.

>FPBP
No one wants to admit democracies are the bad guys in the world.

Every property owner was killed by the government.

No, It was Monaco and Isreal.
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The prince of Monaco would take money from the mafia and ex kgd russian oligarchs all the time in exchange for residency and legitamency
Gregory Lerner did most of it. Also the Mafia would move to Isreal marry jew women and get Isralie passports to travel without hassel. Isreal had no money luandering laws until the 2000's

They don't have a constitution written by the Anglo-Saxon.

Ludwig is has ben a pimp all his life since Ukraine, he would import ukraian hookers into miami. Souless jewish peice of shit made a girl eat gravel and punched her in her face, he was the insperation for the character ralphie in the sopranos

>Did Russians go through decommunismation program after its collapse?
Of course not, though liberals and other "democrats" tried very hard. And still do.

Privatization made oligarchy you dolt.

DESU Mafia is a shit term. In Russia, the whole world actualy there is no such thing as ood or bad its convicted or not everything everyone is connected. But in Russia KGB, Vor, Variouse Brigadas and politions work hand in hand and the thing that makes russian organized crime different than USA is that Vorz/Brigadas are smart finance their own to go to college and become polititians and legalize their activites

Pretty fucking weird how it's been attempted in damn near over two dozen times, and never manages to be that particular, specific form of correct communism. Shows how susceptible that ideology is to failure.

>Did Russians go through decommunismation program after its collapse?
No
>why
because they arent fucking cucks thats why

>because they arent fucking cucks thats why
nah they just love misery. To a ruskie, you aren't truly living unless you're constantly within arms reach of death's sweet embrace.

It was just a stage of rapid collectivization mentality combined with hyper industrialization to make Russia the strongest, while taking all the other soviet states resources, under the ruse of uniting all slavs. Look at the former premeir in his rolex ray bans etc.

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It was a Marxist-Lenenist State. Americans call all forms of socialism communism because they are retards.