Reminder that you were/still are anarcho-capitalist just because the flag looks really cool. You probably still have no idea what the ideology is about, even if you do you forcefully agree with it or the parts you understand just for the sake of being different, but still a "part" of this board. But yeah you're probably following another fad on this board at the moment.
pic related, it's what ancap posters thought their ideology was, just a right wing group
Any kind of "anarchism" is ill advised. I don't see anyway to suggest that anarcho-capitalism is not the "least" ill advised of all of them, but nevertheless it's just a fundamentally broken and evil ideology from the ground up. All anarchism variants are. And the reason is because they become the most virulently oppressive and authoritarian ideologies of all due to the abolition of a constitution, bill of rights, legal restrictions on the state, which ends up still existing under anarchism it's just retermed as "a mob" and it can kill you and rape you and enslave and do whatever it wants with you. This true of all anarchism ideologies. Anarcho communism, Marxism under its most idealistic hypothetical manifestations, all of the leftist ideologies. It's horrible.
Tyler Williams
>You probably still have no idea what the ideology is about free market anachism without goverment interference you reddit cunts are annoying
Parker Reyes
Well, honestly I use the ancap flag as a representation of political affiliation. Everything that is at least rightwing libertarian is represented by the ancap flag on Jow Forums. Anarcho-Capitalism is as the leftists like to say about communism: A beautiful theory that will never work in practice - in practice we shouldn't actually privatize the roads. But a minimalist strongly federalized government with iron negative rights no welfare and as free markets as possible will lead to the best possible society: A society of free, wealthy and responsible people.
Bro, Democracy is mob rule. We had a constitutional republic set up with a all these rights which have continuously been eroded over time. Look at it now. All those laws didn't stop the rights from disappearing over time.
Of course, anarcho capitalists believe in natural rights which are not dependent on arbitrary written laws, but are apart of natural law.
I would like to point out that Right Wing Anarchasim is not an absence of rules.
>muh roads
Come on dude, that's literally the lowest tier argument against anarchocapitalism. We already have tons of private roads and the government roads in my state are fucking abysmal.
I think their are good arguments against full anarcho capitalism and I don't necessarily believe that it would work, but "muh roads" is the argument of an intellectual midget. Maybe a Nozik style minimalist Night Watchman state is better. Who knows.
Here is a black pill about libertarians: We actually couldn't give a rats ass about the poor. In his heart of hearts, a libertarian thinks that the poor deserve to be poor because they are just worse.
If a capable person is poor and thus does not live up to his potential, that is a shame and it is making the lives of everyone worse because they get robbed of the opportunity to exchange goods and knowledge with that person and thus mutually benefit from him. It is therefore in the interest of the community to provide funding for such individuals, and coincidently they will even be able to pay it back - with interest!
The incapable poor, who can't do anything and have no potential, SHOULD be poor. And they should just die in the street. Hopefully, the police catch them before they can rob someone. Best they should just do drugs and euthanize themselves.
Evan Garcia
>If a capable person is poor and thus does not live up to his potential, that is a shame and it is making the lives of everyone worse because they get robbed of the opportunity to exchange goods and knowledge with that person and thus mutually benefit from him. It is therefore in the interest of the community to provide funding for such individuals, and coincidently they will even be able to pay it back - with interest! unless such shit is just in your fantasy and in real life this wouldnt exist >The incapable poor, who can't do anything and have no potential, SHOULD be poor. And they should just die in the street. Hopefully, the police catch them before they can rob someone. Best they should just do drugs and euthanize themselves. and thus the nation will slowly die off as companies import niggers because population cant fuck enough to breed children with such mentality you will make any nation in to a weimar hellhole only with niggers running around
Julian Lee
>unless such shit is just in your fantasy and in real life this wouldn't exist Which part? Loans?
>import niggers Why on earth would I want that? They are even worse than the white niggers we already have.
Alexander Reyes
>interest of the community to provide funding for such individuals, and coincidently they will even be able to pay it back - with interest! >community >loans i doubt a sane richfag would give loan to a drug addict who has jack shit >Why on earth would I want that? They are even worse than the white niggers we already have. already explained >because population cant fuck enough to breed children lack of white work force will make corps to bring in foreigners that would gladly work for less , complain less , and consume more
Xavier Fisher
society should be continuously trying to improve man. if ancap and its ruthless competition can weed out the weak in favor of the strong, then id be with it. its certainly a better option than liberal democracy in that respect.
Asher Baker
>i doubt a sane richfag would give loan to a drug addict who has jack shit >a capable person >a capable person >a capable person Yes. but a drug addict who has jack shit is not a capable person. A child with a tested IQ of 140 on the other hand... I think the bank would gladly invest in his education!
>lack of white work force will make corps to bring in foreigners that would gladly work for less user. Do you understand what you are even saying? Well, let me spell it out for you. So we have a scenario where poor white people died in the streets because they couldn't find a job. And because of this now the corporations are going to import niggers? To do the jobs that the whites weren't even needed for? There are no jobs for them. And as long as they are, the white poor just get those jobs and do them for slave wages. It is better than making niggers do it. Lol.
Also, it is good to cull the population. As then we will just have more space, lol. Automation will limit the need for labor massively. Importing niggers is retard tier.
Austin Gutierrez
>Yes. but a drug addict who has jack shit is not a capable person how do you know if some one is capable or not take howard hughes for example , would you support insane people like howard hughes and their insane projects ? >A child with a tested IQ of 140 on the other hand... i doubt a poor fag would afford an IQ test in your imaginary society >user. Do you understand what you are even saying? Well, let me spell it out for you. So we have a scenario where poor white people died in the streets because they couldn't find a job. And because of this now the corporations are going to import niggers? To do the jobs that the whites weren't even needed for? There are no jobs for them. And as long as they are, the white poor just get those jobs and do them for slave wages. It is better than making niggers do it. Lol. very retarded statement i said that white population wouldnt reproduce as much as there are jobs because of the wages being to small to sustain a family , population will die off , population growth in ancap dreamlands such as singapore , honkong is due to their immigration policy being liberal , also shit ton of their specialist are foreigners too >It is better than making niggers do it. you are right but what if the white work force dies off >Also, it is good to cull the population. As then we will just have more space, for what negroes ? >Automation will limit the need for labor massively. retard detected automation wont make jobs disappear , yes maybe the the work in factories will be gone , but what about programming these things , mantaining , managing , with automation you will just replace one problem with another , no , you will actually make more of them as doing named jobs requires education for a huge amount of people , which i guess wont be available
Dylan Allen
>flags look good not seen much flags, eh?
Jeremiah Moore
>automation wont make jobs disappear , yes maybe the the work in factories will be gone , but what about programming these things , mantaining , managing , with automation you will just replace one problem with another , no , you will actually make more of them as doing named jobs requires education for a huge amount of people , which i guess wont be available RETARD DETECTED. Automation will fucking fuck your life, user. People will just be UNEMPLOYABLE, even for the simplest job you will need a STEM degree. Everything below that will just get exterminated. And even those jobs will be automated once GAI comes out.
>for what negroes ? No. What if I told you, that you could just own a forest for 100k, would you buy it? After all, there is lots of space. Just space with nothing in it.
>white population wouldnt reproduce as much as there are jobs because of the wages being to small to sustain a family But by that logic, Niggers wouldn't reproduce either. So you can't have your cake and eat it, too. The corporations wouldn't pay them THAT little money.
Gavin Torres
>People will just be UNEMPLOYABLE, even for the simplest job you will need a STEM degree. Everything below that will just get exterminated. And even those jobs will be automated once GAI comes out. you seem to be too retarded to understand i think in your imaginary society you would be that one poorfag begging for money in the streets >People will just be UNEMPLOYABLE, even for the simplest job you will need a STEM degree. yes , exactly , the thing is is that if all companies went for the complete automation , the amount of robots that would be needed to program , mantaine , manage would be too much there will be lots of workforce needed and when you have 99% of white retards i dont think you will fill it in anytime soon unless you make public education free And even those jobs will be automated once GAI comes out. GAI ? what is that ? >What if I told you, that you could just own a forest for 100k, would you buy it? After all, there is lots of space. Just space with nothing in it. what no ? >But by that logic, Niggers wouldn't reproduce either. if that was the case , africa would be one big fucking wasteland with no human being around by now niggers fuck a lot , doesnt matter how poor they are
Nolan Torres
>i think in your imaginary society you would be that one poorfag begging for money in the streets No, I would either be dead or god by then. I believe it's just like with sperm: We were jerked off into this world, one will merge with AI and ascend, and become a Starchild. And the rest will die just like when you jerk off into your pants.
Libertarianism is just the prelude that will prevent some faggot communist from getting our entire species filtered by the great filter. It is our fate to fight for the throne. And I just want my shot at it.
Oliver Cox
kek anarcho-capitalists tend to know their 'ideology' better than anyone else, i agree newfags just like the edgy flag though, same with the neetsoc flag
Nolan Wilson
>democracy is mob rule based and hoppilled
Christian Young
>one will merge with AI and ascend, and become a Starchild kek >Libertarianism is just the prelude that will prevent some faggot communist from getting our entire species filtered by the great filter. It is our fate to fight for the throne. And I just want my shot at it. what makes you different from the commies who want to " filter out " humans and make 1 % ruling class , while the rest works for slave tier wages ?
Isaiah Garcia
>filter out No, user, by filter out humans I mean that we will go 100% completely extinct if the commies get their way. They will just summon a demon and get swallowed by its maw if they dare mess with AI in the way they are going to.
Someone has to ascend and has to force his WILL onto the AI, and thus ascend. There is no other way. I have thought long and hard about it.
Noah Lopez
Every ideology is perfect but will never be in practice, might as well put communist flag then.
>The incapable poor, who can't do anything and have no potential, SHOULD be poor. And they should just die in the street. Hopefully, the police catch them before they can rob someone. Best they should just do drugs and euthanize themselves. What if someone's very capable at something that does not pay off at current society, as the society in anarcho-capitalism, as they are focused only on earning money and not ending up dead, would completely nullify the earnings of somebody who is very capable of being a good at arts or writing books?
It's amazing how almost every ideology, even the most absurd one can provide perfect society in theory, but anarcho-capitalism can't at all.
Isaiah Young
Ive been an Ancap for two years now. Ive allways agreed with most of the principles before, but never really understood the bulk of it until I began to study Libertarianism and other ideologies.
If the other Ancaps are like me, Were probably going to be around for a while.
Jack Garcia
arts and books make money, user. Are you retarded?
It's a high risk, high reward business, so of course people will invest you fucking faggot.
Elijah Peterson
Supporting an obscure ideology that will never be implemented is pointless.
Mason Torres
>ancap thread >less then 50 posts >half of all posts from 3 anons.... one who dislikes ancap. Seems about right. Have fun with your fantasy that has never existed except in the minds of some autistic jews.
AnCap and libertarianism in general is so fucking retarded. You retards believe that the "free-market" is some Godly force that can't be corrupted.... I'm not going into it, just know that you're retarded.
Jonathan Fisher
You can't have capitalism in an anarchy. Markets cannot exist when people trade in force.
Xavier Ross
>arts and books make money, user. They are probably being sold less than they were during communism in which people probably had more time for culture than now. You fail to understand how much pressure your ideology put on a human being, completely chaining him and surrounding him by insecure faggots like yourself who believe dumbing yourself down and having bigger paycheck than somebody is making you more dominant intellectually.
No wonder it's the bullied burgers on this board who are behind ancap flags.
Oliver Miller
>im not going into it we know you arent commie
Jaxson Sanchez
I'm not a commie, I'm very pro Capitalism. I agree with a lot of principles you guys hold, but when applied to the real word, it's just fucking stupid.
The N.A.P. for instance, do you think will just, get along? >inb4 that's how we act in everyday life, blah blah blah (you forget it's under a government system that this occurs)
Jeremiah Hughes
>how does it feel knowing that your ideology is so flawless faggots get paid to hide behind memeflags to attempt to slight it FTFY
Connor Foster
Same faggotry
Andrew Cooper
nice 8's
Flawless, as in the fact that it's never come into fruition to get tangible measures of? You people are honestly retarded.
Aaron Bennett
user, I am not a fucking burger, now fuck off socialist. Your kind has already brought enough disaster over my country in the past.
I wish you that Pinochet will come to you and offer you a free ride!
>I refuse to understand the science of how people demand needs and wants.
Mkay. And this is why you will die in poverty, blaming the market for your problems only after you voted in a fasicist wellfare state.
Jose Ross
>free market anachism without goverment interference The problem is that creating and maintaining a free market requires government interference. Free markets are not natural. They are artificial. There will always be people who will lie, cheat, steal, kill, and enslave others. This must be prevented by force.
Except it has been implemented many times throughout history, and is being implemented right now as we speak (globalized capitalism weakening states and subordinating them to economic interests).
Oliver Bennett
>anarchy >implemented Uh wuut???
David Price
Slavery is fine by me. And you are free to do what you want with your property.
Adrian Parker
>Your kind has already brought enough disaster over my country in the past. Oh I thought you were anarchist.
James Bailey
>Mkay. And this is why you will die in poverty, blaming the market for your problems only after you voted in a fasicist wellfare state
He does't understand the difference between needs and wants, and expects that wants will never encroach on needs.
It's funny to me, I keep getting these muddled replies trying to link me to a socialist/commie... when I'm 100% Capitalist. Is this your tactic link everyone who disagrees with you to some sort of "statist" puppet? Just like you completely avoid the math and science behind economics?
Brody Reed
>you can do what you want with your property
Agree, to an extent. Can I build a military to take over Walmart?
Easton Gray
>Implying I got into anarchist capitalism because of this "board".
This board means nothing. It's a fucking echo chamber. Anyone who takes the discussions here seriously is delusional.
Adrian Adams
Well ya blamed the market for your problems. You may be for free-enterprise but you still want to regulate the market, which a soft path to fasicism.
Dominic Ross
Spoken like a true dog blowing Canuck.
Sebastian Rogers
At least communism is logically consistent, failing only at practical level
Brody Taylor
I'll tell you where there's a lot of AnCap going on, the illegal markets. Do you think that's a model to develop society on?
Christopher Bennett
> we will go 100% completely extinct if the commies get their way. >projecting this hard in full honesty , ancaps would drive themselves to extinction faster then cocmmies would >They will just summon a demon and get swallowed by its maw if they dare mess with AI in the way they are going to. what the fuck are you talking about >Someone has to ascend and has to force his WILL onto the AI, and thus ascend. There is no other way. I have thought long and hard about it. now you are just plain spewing bullshit
Jack Young
Spoken like somebody who thinks this board values discussion over clickbait sensational threads discussing vapid bullshit.
Gavin Diaz
Well, that's the problem with Ancap, nothing can prevent you from doing that. The NAP is only enforced if you don't own the McPolice(tm)
Hudson King
>Communism is logically consistent
At what, starving it's citizens? I mean, yeah if that's the goal, then you're 100% correct. >inb4: it's never been tried without other countries meddling in it's business (i.e. just like AnCaps communism isn't capable of fending off real life)
Juan Nelson
So if I build a military and 100% take over a "state" and implement Communism, is it still AnCap?
>The NAP is only enforced if you don't own the McPolice(tm) Very sensible mein niggar
Lincoln Gomez
>what the fuck are you talking about Sry, user. But that is secretly the absolute truth. It's the last of all redpills. Once you understand it, you will see the full picture. It's too large to explain it in a post. youtube.com/watch?v=5X9RUOEOoNQ
Mason Flores
Jow Forums is probably the highest of open discussion where people use commas...
John Sanders
Anarchocaputalism made my breath and fart smell like banan
Zachary Long
>hasn’t read history books Keep it up you’re doing great But who would build the roads is a good book if you ever learn to read nigger it covers the history of anarchism Also George woodcock has a massive manuscript that holds many historical references you would like Again ....if you could read....
Juan Gomez
>spending my time reading fairy tales
I'm good. Who would build the nukes? Or I guess, we just don't need nukes, there'd be no market for it so people just wouldn't like, do that.
Parker Adams
>history >fairy tales Must be 18 to post here champ
Adrian Brooks
You have any go to examples of AnCap'ism? Excluding tribal Africa...
>Jewish globalism = ancap Ooof. Thanks for clearing that up for me. So an ancap state/states will push thrid world migrants, destroy culture/notional identities, ruin economic prosperity for nations, and push homosexuality/transgender/pedo agendas. Wow, sign me up. Ancapistan sounds like a paradise.
Wyatt Turner
You kids these days... After you get finished blaming your parents, blame the government, I guess.
Don't you dare post His face while under your flag of retardation.
William Watson
The world, now that there are corporations too powerful to be effectively controlled by national governments (eg banks).
Lucas Perez
again, this shit just devolves into how things should work, not how they actually do. He points out "free-market" ideas and why they worked under a system that isn't completely. More confirmation bias...
Parker Sullivan
AND THAT'S A GOOD THING!
Sebastian James
It's great to know that ~90% of the world (1000% of any nations that matter) aren't controlled by, dude just like free market.
Nolan Hall
Usually, in my experience, if a person is poor, he deserves to be so. As our people would say, нa гoлo пaлo пa ce pacпaлo, even if you give a million dollars to a poor or homeless person he will blow it in a month. If you are responsible then you will be able to earn and accumulate your own wealth, and if you are not then you will always spend more than you earn and remain on the bottom. I am libertarian only so far as I am against taxes and my money being wasted on welfare and shit.
The problem with that line of thinking is that it only works at the start of a capitalist order, when wealth circulates freely. Over time, if allowed, those who become wealthy (and especially their children) put their wealth in "safe" (low-risk) investments (particularly rent or interest producing). This concentrates wealth in places where it is relatively inaccessible to others, including innovators and producers. It becomes harder and harder for people to acquire wealth by being intelligent, productive, or innovative, and stagnation results.
Isaiah Harris
Wew, smart guy here.
Grayson Harris
>What is high yield investments?
Easton Hernandez
Retardation supreme
Adam Miller
Idk OP, I'm pretty sure us ACs just want to sell babies as slaves and employ private armies to slaughter the competition.
People with meager cognitive ability imagine the AnCap reality to be something like Dances with Wolves. People living in the open wilds in something resembling the old West, building and doing whatever the fuck they want, all the time. The reality is more like Bladerunner where everything is like the shittiest most piss earth part of urban China but more gay. At this point, the most hardcore adherents are mostly sexual deviants that will put anything at stake in order to achieve whatever gay shit they're into.