>top LSD researcher says brain chemicals play key role in feeling of emotions and moral decision making (interpretation: political views) >studies have proven that manipulating opinions and meaning with LSD is absolutely no problem. it might not be news to many, but with the media pushing drugs and psychedelic alternatives you really gotta wonder if the gov isn't planning something in that direction (or maybe it already started?) if you are wondering, many studies across the globe have been started to prove that psychedelics are more effective than SSRI, and personally I expect a pharmacological shift in 5-10 years. apparently previous funding was only granted to prove that these substances are harmful. In the past years however there was a sudden shift and they're now allowed and encouraged to publish positive conclusions. I'm sure these substances can have positive effects, but more interestingly would be the amount of control they give over the population. how convenient it would be to turn everyone in a left leaning, ,globalism supporting, non instinct and common sense having NPC? I'm sure the media is already used as a tool of re-programming, and those who are exposed to certain substances will fall victim to it.
this video is pretty long but has some good info. I suggest you skip the joe rogan stuff and go to 39:25 youtu.be/o1i5Jefxw-E?t=2365
I am by far the most redpilled and intelligent member of my entire family and extended family. I am an electrical engineer specializing in wireless power transfer by antennae. I also did 100x more drugs, especially LSD and mushrooms & weed... and cocaine and methamphetamines.
LSD and mushrooms opened my eyes to things which elevated me intellectually and spiritually above my father and family at a young age, things I was barely prepared to ponder about and which sent me spiraling into a certain degree of insanity since no one else in my life could reflect or contribute to the thoughts I had.
These drugs don't unlock or lead to any particular path, you are already on the path that is intended for you, they can only speed up or inhibit the process. Ultimately they are not going to alter your general ultimate endpoint. In my case, while I certainly paid with psychosis and loneliness, loss of friends and destruction of relationships, depersonalization, self de-humanization, etc, as a cause of their effects, I can say that ultimately they only strengthened me.
I fail to see how making them popular will worsen the already retarded masses
Julian Thompson
im looking forward to tripping balls in my retirement
Brayden Rogers
you don't seem to take in consideration what could have been if you didn't take those drugs. you are so certain the change was for the better and I have to ask, how can you know? You seem to put your intellectual greatness above all the things you lost and for me, that's not a worthy trade off
Anthony Morris
bump
Chase Campbell
Used to dose L relentlessly. It didn't redpill me and I abused it but it did break me away from that NPC conditioning. You become a bit detached from the outside environment, making it easier to red red pilled. I guess you could go the other way too. I went natsoc, but some go antifa. Either way. You aren't an NPC afterwards usually.
>maps >founded by a jew >direct connections to cia why am I even replying to you, low iq troglodyt. I'm watching the unfiltered stuff, not you're castrated and censored ZOG media. funny how vollenweider mentions all that in the OP on the swiss presentation but not on the (((maps))) psycedelic conference. franz vollenweider had direct contact to albert hofmann and was a friend to him btw. you druggies are all fucking retarded
Charles Hill
MAPS is the only group doing hardcore study into these compounds and their science is very clear and presented. If you have an issue with their data, bring that issue forth.
maps is funded by george soros, rockerfeller and thiel founded by a jew involved in illegal drug trafficking direct connection to cia and goverment and much more. jewish names, everywhere
there's a reason they're prioritizing testing lsd, mdma, dmt and not psilycobin. they use the medical benefits as an excuse while the results of the studies are also used by the cia for population control. what they're doing isn't essentially bad, but those who they forward the information to
I'm not watching a video. Prove what you say with data. It's not about MAPS. It's about the data of the drugs you are referring to. Attacking the organization is akin to ad hominem. Directly refute the video I posted. As a bonus, tell me what you know about the 5HT2A receptor.
You don't get to shit-talk chemistry and neuroscience while I'm around. Not unless you know your shit.
are you really curious? watch the video. 2h is long but you don't have to watch it all in one go. it's not gonna make hate drugs if that's your fear, just pointing out a few things with these orgsnisations. all the sources are publicly available on the web. that amerifat in the thread is a perfect example why you have to be careful with those substances, can't even grasp what the argument is about and then tries to move the goalpost
Benjamin Jenkins
why do you wear the flag?
Luis Green
I don't care. does this make you feel better?
Adam Campbell
WAS a junky
Robert Gonzalez
As somebody who reveres psychedelics I have to say I disagree. If anything psychedelics will show people the truth of why the world is so fucked up and dissolve all of the bullshit ideas their minds have been infected with. Listen to some Terrence McKenna lectures. "What's so great about mushrooms" is a good starting point. They are probably our best hope for course correcting society.
Owen Rogers
yes
Easton Richardson
I'm criticizing you because you're not talking about the chemistry of the substances in question. You're attacking MAPS. It's like anytime a jew touches something, we're supposed to hate it.
Jaxson Young
>mckenna cia asset I wish I was joking but he literally is. all the connections to cia are covered in the video as well. you guys are so horribly bluepilled it's sad
Carter Green
I suppose you're talking about his quote where he says he was recruited by "them"? It was an obvious joke and reference to mushrooms dude. Nothing he ever said or advocated for would be beneficial to CIA/deepstate whatsoever. In fact it is all quite harmful to their agenda and it doesn't take much comprehension to realize that.
Easton Carter
But why is this a problem?
Nathaniel Wilson
So mk ultra part 2? Tbh the government should try harder if it wants people to use drugs. This "drugs r bad" boogeyman is kind of counterproductive
Jeremiah Foster
>It's like anytime a jew touches something, we're supposed to hate well yeah of course, where do you think you are? how new are you? 10 years of lurking Jow Forums and paying attention to jewish names have left its mark on me. there's one thing I know and that is the jewish conspiracy is real. a very simple test to check if youtubers are shills or not is to check if they call out jews or not
Nolan Reed
youtu.be/o043MBcLync around 33 minutes literally spouting globalist propaganda. even if you give the benefit of the doubt with the "them" quote, it does absolutely hurt their interest
Angel Williams
LSD cures depression and makes people become Nazis, that's why tptb hates it.
>or maybe it already started? look at mkultra and berkeley
long story short: (non conspiratorial v) >US army performing illegal research on LSD with Berkeley students on the early 60s >Experiment fails, army moves on to other weird things to research >Timothy Leary gets a hold of a batch >Starts using it to convince students to have orgies in his room >To convince him he pieces together vague philosophies in the shape of a "fuck me, it will liberate you" command >Students start using it to fuck other students >Before anyone realizes what has happened there are hundreds of thousands of people having an orgy in woodstock
>Marxists try to abuse this to generate anti-war sentiment by saying army people are squares and less evolved in the mysteries of drug use (>Army is trying to talk to dolphins using ketamine now)
Hunter White
many drug addicts suffer from confirmation bias due to the psychosis they undergo. he fell for the psychedelics psyop or is a disinfo agent promoting it like toe rogan.
you have to be honest though, they are biased as fuck, they have a political mission for doing all the research they do, if they ever found sth negative, are you sure they would publish it?
Ryder Wilson
basically an animal's consciousness
Angel Parker
I felt more "open" after doing LSD for the first time, I hate one "hit" that I cut in half and took both over a few hours.
But it really was just tipping my toe in the pool. I want to blow my mind next time, I want to try and get out of this fucking depression.
Also, note to psychonauts, anti depressants/anti psychotics nuke drug trips, make sure they are out of your system before you take them or the effect will be diminished or not even happen.
I wish you could understand swiss german. in the second and third video I linked the top swiss researches literally say quote on quote what I greentext in the OP at swiss presentations. Franz Vollenweider had a similar presentation at the maps funded psycedelic conference in 2017/2015 but said none of that. it's almost as he wasn't allowed to talk about it or maybe they didn't know about it yet (unlikely)
Brayden Ross
The problem is the fucking jews are into EVERY GODDAMN THINK. You look hard enough into something and you'll find one waiting to subvert or exploit. That's what they do. THAT is why I want you to focus on the chemistry, because the chemistry is absolute and bound by the laws of physics/nature. I understand your warning about drugs. But the best protection one can have when dealing with drugs is studying the chemistry and data involved. youtube.com/user/TheDrugClassroom/videos psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page Watch/read things by Dr.Nichols as well. He knows his shit and is autistically nerdy about pharmacology. He doesn't ramble about hippy shit or whatnot.
Jaxon Adams
Mushrooms suck dick. They are fun and all but you feel sick the entire time. Like a sickly old man with terrible indigestion and a good chance of puking. LSD won't make you puke. MDMA can if you take too much. On LSD you feel 100% sober but at the same time tripping balls. You really cannot use mushrooms even in there extracted form your body sees it as a poison and attempts to evacuate it.
Taking LSD and studying religion(even the pagan ones) is what led me to Jesus Christ. Well that and podestas emails.... But nonetheless I was also on LSD when I read those. I was already intelligent before I took the LSD though. 98.7% European(0.3% ashkenazi jew wtf.)
If a retard were to take it it would be wasted or of no benefit. It is mostly the EDM scene that gives psychedelics a bad name. In that sort of environment you are not learning anything. You probably arent thinking about shit but getting your dick wet. Hedonism at its finest kek. More or less you are just dancing and having a good time. Psychedelics are meant to be taken in small groups of people or alone. Obviously you should have someone with you the first time but if you really want to learn something taking it alone and reading/watching you-tube documentaries is the best.
if you remained that way .. that was not what happened of course it was just a very brief moment . When a newborn human baby emerges first from the womb is he an animal to you? This was the idea... humans have the ability to inquire and discover the true nature of existence. Who knows how much animals can apprehend but the experience also left me with one other consideration.. at one point I began to become aware of a sense of a presence which appeared to emanate from the very air around me . I felt as I were entering this presence which existed already there but was only then something I could really tell was actually present. I was entirely alone in a field there was nobody else anywhere around me.
The thought occurred to me this molecule in these mushrooms allows the brain to process some emanation from higher dimensions our normal senses can not receive.
>how convenient it would be to turn everyone in a left leaning, ,globalism supporting, non instinct and common sense having NPC? Very convenient. Any and all drugs serve 2 purposes and 2 purposes only. 1)Population control 2)Profit
If you shill for drugs, it does not matter to me if you're a homeless person, a high school teacher or the best fucking scientist on the planet. You cannot be trusted. >inb4 b-but they help people you idiot No one cares. Literally no one. If you pretend you care about the 'health' of people who may or may not want you dead even, one more reason I cannot trust your pretentious ass.
Jayden Parker
take a look at this retard ))
Juan Edwards
extra idiot.
Jacob Howard
>Nothing he ever said or advocated for would be beneficial to CIA/deepstate whatsoever. In fact it is all quite harmful to their agenda and it doesn't take much comprehension to realize that. 1) Read "Changing Images of Man" 2) Read the Perennial Philosophy, by Huxley 3) Research Huxley's family tree
Long story short, McKenna and others like him introduced ideas that were common coin in the elite circles of the army, the european nobility, the higher classes, and the newly formed CIA. New Age, Drug, and Hippie movements were intended as a wedge inside the houses of the middle class, to turn kids against their parents
Liam Clark
Oh no, I'm so hurt, some mentally deficient baboon on Jow Forums called me an idiot. I better change my opinion right this instant to avoid this ever happening again.
In an ideal world there's nothing wrong with globalism. If everybody was white you know damn well youd support it as well. It's just the niggers, jews, and other undesirables want one world government to make it easier to enslave and destroy us pretty much. Having an opinion on globalism doesn't prove he's a cow asset, it just shoes he was in favor of the natural progression of our species. Global society is an obvious next step followed by space colonization and all that.
Luis Jackson
from the get the group's mission is to advocate for changes in legislation, they gear their "research" looking to produce papers to justify legislation, thats not good science, is just lip service
im refering to the fact that that way of consciousness is not more pure, is just unmediated by rational thought, is what an animal would experience, a pure instinctual experience. There's a whole chapter on Illuminatus about this, i think Celine calls it "fake enlightenment" or sth like that, he then goes to produce actual enlightenment by pulling a gun to his face at that precise moment
im sorry, german sounds really alien to me, but it makes complete sense they wouldnt mention the suggestion factor of drugs
Grayson Gonzalez
Because there are no junkies in the United States. ffs half of your politicians rape and kill children and extract the adrenochrome from their bodies. Go fuck yourself burger fag.
if you have every clinic, science institution and even illegal-underground network cobtrolled by them, I rather have lsd classified as illegal drug with no health benefits, even if that isn't true and actually could help people with depression. the reason is: to me, lsd is the atomic bomb of the 21th century. a synthetic bio weapon. just the possibility that you could enslave the population where a few jewish kings rule while their servants are happily following them due the brainwashing. the amount of depressed people is increasing rapidly world wide. just by therapying them with lsd and also mk ultra them to serve the "gods chosen", you could possibly get there in a few years. lsd in itself isn't bad as I stated in the OP, but the risk of abuse by power hungry elites is too damn high. I'm tired and need to do more research. this is probably all too pessimistic but when all of the mainstream media is suddenly only writing positive things about these substances, you just know man
Caleb Rodriguez
the problem with globalism is the source of decisions is too removed from the actual effect the policies have, which is unfair to the people who have to live with them
Angel Flores
>it's another schizophrenia thread
Adrian Harris
>from the get the group's mission is to advocate for changes in legislation, they gear their "research" looking to produce papers to justify legislation, thats not good science, is just lip service That's because they're up against the DEA. The DEA take no quarter. They ban anything they can and resist any attempts at legalization of anything. Read up on how they treated MDMA in the 80s. MDMA was likely going to be placed in schedule III of the CSA. The DEA disregarded court orders and made it sched I, and in doing so made it extremely difficult to do legit research on the compound. The DEA and CSA have been greatly limiting the ability to research drugs to the point where we're now just starting to graciously investigate these drugs.
Hudson Torres
psychedelics are hormone mimickers
James Green
no? globalism isn't even natural, you don't see it anywhere in the animal world, plants or whatever. you build cultures within countries and have people in other countries with different cultures. this is what unites. this is what real diversity looks like.
Logan Rogers
>enslave people using LSD You enslave people with diazepines, opioids, and other downers. The pharmacology of psychedelics(and entactogens and stimulants) causes them to have the opposite effect. The CIA tried that shit and they failed, miserably. Project MK was a complete failure. The drugs in question cause people to become uncontrollable.
I was a blue-pilled normie before I experimented with LSD, it played a major role in me waking up to the wider realities of the world.
Carson Ramirez
drugs weren't invented yesterday, they have been distributed as tools for brainwashing, as suggestion mechanisms for getting people into cults, as demoralizing agents, as mood-enhancers for rituals, and for other various social/psychological-engineering uses all throughout history, drugs don't free your mind, one becomes very suggestible when high
id recommend the book Elemental History of Drugs, by Antonio Escohotado, its a short version of his General History of Drugs, which is quite long
Ian Cooper
Oh leaf... no one cares what you think.
Parker Cooper
but you do know the theory hat the reason they published the mk ultra papers was just a distraction from them continuing the research on the subject, right? Because they found out that they can create the lsd effect without giving the test subject actual lsd (mglur2). this is pretty recent as well I think
I like how you mention all the bad things about drugs. It's always the bad things, isn't it. It's like with guns. Guns are used to murder people, rob, commit acts of terror, etc.
It's piss easy to sit there and beat the drum of bad intent. I can do this regarding baseball bats. Did you know that a solid piece of bat can induce extreme cranial hemorrhage? Quick too. Those fucking baseball bats man. Something must be done to warn people who use baseball bats recreationally that they can also be used to kill. And guns too. The countless hundreds of millions maimed and/or killed with guns! These people here who use guns for recreation - youtube.com/watch?v=bNtj0gyJYrA should be made aware of the dangers of guns and guns should clearly be banned to save lives.
What are they using in place of LSD to hit the 5HT2A receptor and mimic LSD?
Christian Morales
when you are high, you are more open to suggestion. This is nothing new
Jeremiah Long
on the continuation of mk ultra I forgot the sources, hence I said theory. the lsd effect without lsd howerver, yeah. vollenweider himself says so at 12:20 youtu.be/ukWJD0EHQfM they tested it on animals already and want to test it on humans now.
Camden Martinez
lol, what a convoluted way of arguing 1- to make an analogy with guns rights is retarded because the gun issue isnt if guns should be illegal, but if citizens should be allowed to have guns, nobody is arguing it should be illegal for the state to have guns
2- i was explaining what the function of drugs has been through all of human history, what you are doing is like arguing that guns can also be used to open beer bottles and that one shouldn't just pile up all the instances guns have been used for shooting as a prove thats what guns are for
Jeremiah Diaz
manipulating mglur2
Liam Cooper
why do these faggots want to ban guns but also legalize psychedelics?
James Hall
>LSD and mushrooms & weed... and cocaine and methamphetamines.
Three of these things are not like the others. The concept of "drugs" needs to be destroyed and all substances evaluated on their own merits. Weed and heroin are not the same category of thing.
Ryder Gray
>It didn't redpill me and I abused it but it did break me away from that NPC conditioning.
Hey retard, that's the definition of red pill.
Caleb Sanders
>Global society is an obvious next step followed by space colonization and all that.
I fucking hate this idiotic meme so much. The only "evidence" for it is sci-fi garbage.
Meanwhile, *actual* space advances have occurred in times of competition between nations. The moon landing was a moment of American triumph and a middle finger to the soviets.
I have noticed it's scales with intelligence. If I look a single object on LSD it's like I'm looking at twenty abstract versions simultaneously, the different histories are understood like a river pouring into my brain with clarity, I understand the atomic structure and can see the molecules and know that it is merely energy, the social history of the object and how and with what tools were used and the people that worked on it and life they lived, the journey the object took to get to me and the possible future it could have and the many different combinations of the objects that came before to reach this one.
Everything is understood and connected and given process layers for more complex things like people, and fuck me humans are the most beautifully complex assemblies, when I say scales with intelligence I mean the LSD takes what you know and gives it to you, what you know about humans socially, genetically, psychologically, evolutionary, behaviourally, mechanically, nutritionally, endocrinely etc, etc, etc, etc, etc is all accessable and so fucking clear. You start psychoanalyzing your own subconscious and others, understanding behaviours you haven't thought about but are profound and useful to this day.
It's that pill from limitless basically.
Oh yeah and there's hallucinations, higher dimensions and fractals.
Blake Green
I don't understand pol
>hates illegal mexicans >continues prohibition which destroys mexico
It's the fucking pharmacies we have to worry about.
Gabriel Jackson
But how? How can you mimic the effects of LSD without acting on the same receptors? LSD has a pretty unique profile that includes dopamine activity. You can't just fuck around with other receptors to mimic that effect. What drug are they using? Who synthesized it?
But it does come down to this point once you start talking about laws and good v bad. If you wish to talk the chemistry of psychedelics, then fine. If you wish to talk about potential harm, then you open yourself up. Personally, I like dangerous shit. It's fun, exciting, cool, and makes life worth living.
If this is directed at me rest assured I DO NOT want ANY guns banned. I wanna own my own fucking Browning M2 for shits and giggles, my friend.
It was a failure though. They failed to use psychedelics as mind control mechanisms. They caused psychosis and chaos in their testing, not the control and order needed.
>what is farming >what is a flurousing new industry that can be done at a small the community level >what is medical research
Kayden Murphy
You won't get an argument from me. The US government has been fucking around in latin/South America for a long goddamn time over drugs. Think about cocaine for a moment. It's so benign in reality that the only time it makes news is when someone has it in their possession or is deal/trafficking it. LSD too. Every music festival has SOME floating around(or 1P, AL-LAD, ALD-52, etc), as well as many concerts, and yet you never hear about any issues on the news from these events, except when someone takes fake shit and gets sick/dies.
You go to a Tool concert and the greatest danger is from biting flies(if it's outdoors).
Tyler Foster
Idk they'll probably try to just mkultra everyone with LSD at some point, you could argue current "antidepressants" are just the prototype of that idea
Benjamin Miller
>How can you mimic the effects of LSD without acting on the same receptors? I don't know, he doesn't say with what. if you wanna research he says the study ir idea originated in new york
Caleb Turner
Based schizoposter
Samuel Roberts
I'd bet my ass that media has been found to be far more effective control mediums than drugs. You can only do so much chemically because you will always run into an upper limit and cause serious problems in the subject. Even benzodiazepines eventually lead to mental dysfunction. A rule of thumb in controlling anything is, you don't want whatever you're controlling to suddenly break or fall out of your control. Be it a car, a gun, or a useful idiot. This is why MK failed. By using drugs, the CIA introduced a highly chaotic and uncontrollable problem into test subjects.
Joseph Edwards
This. The cartel's cannabis market has crashed so they're resorting to PILLS (cheaper than heroin), meth and MDMA, and human trafficking... and what are the biggest problems we're having right now?
I'd argue porn, tv, social media, school, pharmas are all way more harmful than smoking 2:1 or 1:1 CBD/THC cannabis everyday and having some shrooms every now and then. I use to work in a coffee shop and I don't understand how people can say cannabis is destroying us when we have a jittery-anxious physically addictive drug that requires very specialized farming/production all the fucking while you can grow a box of weed in your garden and supply yourself with cookies and tea indefinitely... but you know drugs are scary bad boogie man, not like libtard anti-gun nuts at all ( like this faggot )
i never talked about good versus bad, and im not talking about the potential harm either.
Im talking about its use as a tool for social control, which ironically enough drug-fags understand when its bigpharma pills, but not when its the shit they like. Its like you have a block in your brain that isnt letting you look at the thing in an objective detached way, you are putting personalizing substances, putting intentions and personalities into them that aren't there, its like a sort of animism.
>It was a failure though How was it a failure? Timothy Leary run his studies under supervision of Henry Murray, then we are supposed to believe Leary went rogue, somehow kickstarted an LSD distribution network all around the country, and came up with a philosophy that is the same that was published in 1945 by the same writer who wrote a dystopian novel about an utopian darwinist society where the plebs are kept in check by drugs, who is the brother of the first UNESCO director.
I mean, if you turn your brain on a little you can grasp the real strength of the statement by being a little bit critical of the meaning behind the words: "Drugs can be used to alter behavior and modify beliefs (((in a positive manner)))" Who determines what this positive manner is? If you don't get your bells ringing when this statement is parroted by a legislator you are retarded
I have no issue with the personal use of drugs, im have an issue with its administration
Easton Lee
>I'd argue porn, tv, social media, school, pharmas are all way more harmful than smoking 2:1 or 1:1 CBD/THC cannabis everyday and having some shrooms every now and then
Its the same exact thing, its an artificial release of tension
Wyatt Ward
>im have an issue with its administration I'm with you on that
Parker Ramirez
>artificial
Do know how drugs work? >DMT is produced in our bodies and nearely everything >humans have a cannabanoid system which cannabis interacts with like a godly puzzle >spiritual/religous teachings and practices have deep deep roots with drugs or rather plants and fungus
How are plants and fungus bad when you get high but completely ok if they're food? How can you possibly argue that something that's existed before us is artificial and the same thing as mordern techno culture? Why are you such a faggot?
Angel Jackson
based
Logan Johnson
You fuckers can call me a degenerate but LSD saved my life and made me care about my ancestors
Henry Nguyen
No shit lad, thats why drugs even work, you are hacking your brain to bring forth a specific mindset on cue, that's the same exact thing porn does, and the same thing social media, pharmas, tv, and older instances of social engineering like school, the media, or the army are designed to attempt to hook on. You should smoke a joint and think about what im saying, maybe you will understand the ramifications that way.
Jason Garcia
>do you drink? >ever have a coffee? >care for an advil? >how's your mint tea? >can you remove all this DMT from my body so I can stop being artificial?
Jeremiah Murphy
Same. It made me realize the value of family and community. Very much the opposite of being a hedonistic individualist degenerate.
Jason Gonzalez
>casual personal decision to take a drug is the same as systematic brain manipulation by a foreign entity
Chase Harris
Arent nootropics like piracetam basically the same thing without getting wonky?
Caleb Roberts
>take LSD four times >really awesome helped me alot with anxiety >5th time, worst day of my life >12+ hours of constant panic attacks, heart racing, delusional thoughts, and suicidal thoughts, nausea >call brother and saves me >take a break >6th time with friends >starts out like the 5th time but eventually calm down and have fun. It was alright Never gonna take it again and would not recommend anybody take it. I still see the ceiling warp when im tired and focus on it. I wake up and always see red come from my blinds. It did fix some of my anxiety long term but never again.
Easton Cruz
systemically manipulate my balls with your mouth
Austin Lee
>casual shooting of firearms is the same as systematic nazism
The real brain washing is that you're allowing cartels to be handsomely funded. I can only imagine what the mafia would've thought of this glorious opportunity.
