BETA Orbiter Discussion

I’ve never understood the appeal of having feelings for and hanging around a woman for months or years; simply getting by on the breadcrumbs of attention that she might give you. Seems like slow torture to me. At best you’re on the back burner as plan C,D,E with her. At worst she’s just using you for your attention and resources.

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lol

>Trusting anyone ever.
Pfft, good luck getting backstabbed, used or betrayed, or maybe all 3 at the same time if you're super unlucky. Never make friends with anyone user EVER they will all betray you for the smallest thing.

Who the fuck would hang around that shitskin turd?

Boomers started this.

>Never make friends with anyone user EVER
healthy advice via Jow Forums
grow up.

I went through that kind of thing in literally middle school, to a lesser extent in high school (because at least I had a chance in hell), and then a handful of times in my early 20s. Here I am now, red pilled, but instead of getting lead on, I just get lead nowhere....because I don't try.

has that actually happened to anyone who wasn't in high school?

Get fucked, I'm Autistic and have had people take advantage of me I'm much better off with no friends, I'd rather be a "looser" than a fucking yesman beta onions oby cuck like you, you fucking nigger loving kike faggot.

>I'm Autistic

Its time to take your pills Billy

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same, though i have actual friends and good acquaintances, and i might have aspergers though im not sure, but im a hermit more or less

you are just incel like 90% of Jow Forums
people treat us like shit as usual

Anyone here have a fap folder so absolutely mind blowing that they don't even miss fugging real women? I've deleted my stash multiple times, but NOT AGAIN, NEVER AGAIN.

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That's some real Machiavellian-tier shit right there, bro

I know that feel
Everyone you’ve put effort into your friendship with them never cared and treated you like disposable trash, so now you’re so jaded you can’t make friends anymore

Thats all humanity is without God.

I have an ultimate fap folder but literally never look at it.

So im going to make this abundantly clear and only mention it one time.

If you do not care, don't even emulate the need for interaction with anyone ever. Seriously just cut interaction with people out of your life. Dis agency your emotions for needing human interaction save for user's online. Isolate yourself from the world, and focus on your personal philosophy (God). You'll find its way easier to follow concepts when you don't feel worried about other people's validation.

Isolationists are probably the only actual human beings not tainted by kikes. Simply because they don't give single shit about a pebble from with over-grandiose materialistic world. If women are objects, they can be ignored. Simply do that, and stop feeling the need to be "Complete" with someone, i may be PHYSICALLY attracted to someone, I may NEED to interact with people, but when you think about it, if i don't have free will, then no one can blame a beta for going postal either. Call the universe out on its shit. Life is the biggest fucking meme there is. Everything is now satanic, and people would rather pay to die then live for free.

There's literally a guy that's been orbiting my dad's high school girlfriend since 1981, that's 38 years. He showed me on faceberg. The orbiter king is about 5'4"

>ultimate gap folder
>never looks at it
Why are you torturing yourself user. Go take a scroll m8

I can't relate to any of you yet I share pretty much all of the beliefs here. I'm exceedingly attractive (been told by every girl I've been with that I'm a 10) above average intelligence, 119 IQ, emotionally stable and mature (at least I like to think so) empathetic, have no insecurities, am a hard worker, very creative and positive and man i just wish i could share this state of mind with you guys it really saddens me to see all of this unnecessary pain. You all deserve a chance at love and to live the life you truly desire. It isn't all happiness for me even though I basically hit the lottery with my genetics and circumstances, take solace in the fact that even the beautiful people have misery of their own. Mine is the only woman I've ever wanted and truly loved died in my arms on my birthday last year, I haven't even looked at a woman with attraction since then and I doubt I ever will again. I just want to help people overcome their insecurities and fixable shortcomings. Fuck man I know life is hard but it can be a little bit easier it you would all just really apply yourselves to betterment in every aspect. I wish I knew the perfect words to say to make you all understand what I mean, but it's so hard especially through text like this. Love you all...

If I come back in the next life, I want to be a 7/10 woman minimum. Preferably Japanese.

I like being a man don't get me wrong, but if I have to spend 50-80+ years, I'd rather do it as a female since the biggest problem you'll face is not looking pretty or cute. The easiest fucking job.

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im not autistic but yeah fuck friends

The fap folder is usually only for the first fap of the day. As we ALL know, after the first fap of the day, it's usually going to take porn/video stimulus to get the job done. My fap folder is legendary.

>be me
>be a nurse at a looney bin
>new patient
>grill 9/10
>I get to be her nurse
>she's a bipo with a violent manic episode
>treat her for two months
>she gets better
>before leaving leaves me a message
>lol user, here's my email
>be bored three months later
>find the paper "lol, why not"
>write her an email asking how's she doing
>get to chatting
>agree to meet up
>agree to meet up second time
>third time we go to the bar
>kiss her
>we go to her place
>she lives with a roommate
>beta orbiter
>mfw beta orbiter got to listen to her moan "Fuck me daddy!" as I fucked her against the wall that separates their rooms
>twf did it four weeks in a row until we broke up
I don't even feel bad about cheating on my wife

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Your post is self refuting
>I'm exceedingly attractive (been told by every girl i've been with that i'm a 10)
>wish I could share this state of mind with you guys

Being objectively good looking isn't a state of mind, on some level you have to know that. What a dogshit post user.

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it happens to me every night. i have a huge crush on my neighbor and i hear her fucking her boyfriend every night.

He was orbiting her for a year, giving her presents, breakfast in bed, gifts and all that. His move was to touch her breast as he was massaging her once.
I talked shit about him to qt bipo all the time I was there. Shit, I really miss that qt

>he fell for the cheating meme
kill yourself

it's just puppy love, once you conqure the animal
soul beta orbiting stops.

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Nah. Got away with it too

They are white knights are believe they have some kind of duty to stick by these women and hope that after she is done fucking all the chads, she will turn onto the beta orbiter as a stable partner. It's very pathetic.

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Fucking based and checked the bongs right

is it normal for clitorises to be "knobbly?"

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based

Me either. I was getting to know a girl, and I showed up for a day out like we had planned and she opened the door and sighed. No greeting, it was clear she didn't want me there. I just said I'd come by another time, and never returned

Eww, is this a celebrity? Did they really say this?

how is this politics?

Incels btfo

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I used too always delete my hentai folder after I cummed now I just accept it and keep it

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Die commie. Incels btfo

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I just read the final chapter of Ulysses by James Joyce. It’s a stream of consciousness of a woman’s mind, and she’s literally just obsessed with cock.

the patrician's posture

Hmmm. Actually some interesting points in here, user.

women dont use the 10 rating meme.

no 10s post on /pol, come on lets be serious... its like thinking a 10/10 abrecrombie model comes here to meet guys

>search for a girlfriend most of my life
>everyone hurts me or is a slut
>Go My Own Way ignoring bitches
>some 9/10 qt asian approaches me randomly on a dating website
>shes super trad and wants to date me because Im a virgin who never had a girlfriend
>marry her a year later
When you don't want a relationship is when you find the perfect one for you.

My mind is stranded on an island and I don't know how to swim

...and then everyone on the bus stood up and clapped.

kek I knew a few guys like that when I was a teenager. Sometimes I think they just wanted a friend that was a girl but when she'd see me and go "omg hai anonnnnnn!" and run over for a hug you could see the hate and self-loathing in their eyes as they stood back and wait for their 'girl' to be done playing ass grab in the hallway

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Negros

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2 years man, thats a long time to be in love and not say a word

I actually used to be one of those fags in highschool, until i stopped giving a fuck and just did what I wanted, instead of wasting times on grill. Ironically enough, they began to flock to me themselves
Believe what you want, if it makes your incel life any easier

>$13,000

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fap you say?

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KILL CHADS AND STACIES ON SIGHT

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yo calm down

>In love

You mean paying for limited access to contact her. Constant worrying she won't message him back. When it takes her a while "oh I'm sorry, I was busy" with a reply of "oh don't worry about it, what are you doing for your next stream?". Yeah man, really sounds like he knows this woman well and isn't just a pay pig cuck. I genuinely don't understand how you can possibly think that being a mod and giving a woman money will get her to like you. Paying her for literally nothing besides a few minutes of her time occasionally. A great way to start a relationship.

I'm really torn between who makes me more angry. Thots, or the retards who constantly give them attention, money, and validation just for existing.

>employed
>wife
>posting on Jow Forums
We all know you were the roommate.

man that sucks

I've been here since 2007. Back then I was a roommate. Also, not employed anymore. Stay at home dad

Social parasite detected.

Based I fucked a married polish women when I was only 18 kek

Yeah, my ex was like that and she disappeared.

NEVER EVER let a woman think she has you wrapped around your fingers or she will use you like a fucking rag.
When you act like (in a decently nice way) that you couldn't give a shit whether she exists or not, it keeps them intrigued.
Surrounding yourself with female friends (that you don't care to bone---but are cool) is good bait as well. Observant females will WANT to know why other females are drawn to you and will want a piece.
Guys like me (yeah yeah call it degenerate if you want) plow thru pussy, while this one poor white-knighting idiot in our town, still (after YEARS) can't figure out why he NEVER gets pussy. The girls use him as a ride-service and get him to do 'things' for them and use him as a rag. Fucking guy is too nice & beta to figure this shit out,,, and I've heard (thru 3rd parties) that he incessantly whines Q's about how & why 'assholes' like me and my crew get so much pussy.
You have to know the fundamental biological hard-wiring of the female mind,, and also cultural relativism----and how to play off of that.
The 1st factor is more important because girls can chameleonize their behavior very quickly, and swiftly adapt to whatever the 'new cultural norms are. It's a hard-wired herd-survival mechanism they evolved

The only consolation I can take from things like this is that they will almost certainly never reproduce.

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I've met this cutie on tinder.. we have the same background, russian immigrants but got here as kids. She's perfect on every possible.. we've been chatting for 2 months daily but she still won't find a time and place to meet me.. I feel like such an orbiter, waiting for her to write a message.

What do frens? Just ditch man up and gfto?

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I married a russian girl. Truly, slavs are a master race

Some woman have almost succubus like abilities that can pull in and drain the life force of every men below 7/10. These men never had someone before that wanted their care, and they believe they can attract the women of their dreams by being her aids. The most pathetic example i've seen was at a big lan-party. A 8/10 girl walked and she had a literal galaxy of orbiters who carried her pc, chair and other useless shit. They spend like an 1 hour setting up everything so the bitch could stream and they were all orbiting arround her trying to climb the planetary hiërarchy. What's essential for these whores to succeed is to create the illusion that she's a pure maiden worth protecting, which keeps the betamales arround long enough to drain all energy.

In 1 way, i feel pity for the poor fellas falling for this trap. You could very well imagine how some people get so desperate and are on the brink of offing themselves, and then she appears. The almost perfect lady with a nice personality and a seemingly innocent soul. However, these men don't realise that they will get out of this "relationship" as an even emptier husk than they were beforehand. Cause once the demon sucked everything out of her victim, she needs to find new blood, and she will act hostile to the outdated subjects.

Don't fall for women with many guy-friends. It's not a war you can win.

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Plowing through puss isn't degenerate at all. Before society it was a sign of a dominant male. Ever wondered why the beta males have always been the biggest defends of monogamy?

The men who participate are just bringing it on themselves. For some reason they think these women are attainable, despite never even talking to women who look like that in their lives. Those women make attainable, but still attractive women, think that's what they should chase. That it is an easy route to attention, validation, and money and they are right. So they also get an over-inflated ego. The amount of women I see with thousands of Instagram followers who are only marginally attractive is crazy. Basically all they have to do is not be fat, wear lots of makeup, and revealing clothes. Maybe I'm just bitter.

>t. gay nerd who fucks old men

Ditch, quit thinking about a woman who doesn't want to spend time with you.
You already knew the answer to your question btw, now just do it.

are you trying to say I don't have a chance with old hammerhead-eyes?

Hammerhead-eyes is a disgusting mutt who can't even clean her own appartment. You've seen those video's of her ex right? Crazy people attract other crazy people.

I dunno, I never had a woman in my life and I could probably tell a succubus to fuck off

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After this she deleted herself from social media, apparent lost her job, and started going to church. hehehe

No, he was absolutely right.
The fact that you don't know he was right only brings into question your perspective.
He wasn't bragging, and the people who know he is right know he wasn't bragging, and had no reason to respond to him, other than to let others, like yourself, know that he was telling the truth, so that they don't become the errand boy for some bitch who thinks she's valuable for existing.

MATE, it's a book, HIGHLY RECCOMEND

I've never actually seen any videos of hers, except a short one where she gets some crazy 30k donation or whatever.

As edgy as this sounds, it's actually pretty good advice.

Every time I've tried to make a friend, they find some way to use me, sometimes even literally stealing from me. It broke my heart, but it was a necessary process to understand and overcome my weakness.

I've only made two good friend in my entire life, I've known one of them since grade school, and the other is a close family friend. Everyone else I treat as associates, because I know that they're likely vermin, and I won't allow them to prey on me.

Life isn't sunshine and rainbows. Allowing emotion, unfounded love, to fester leads to weakness.

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Those donations are always refunded afterwards.

Well put.
That guy you responded to likely has no clue what the fuck he's talking about, or is some teenager on his 7th beer of the night and is shit-posting for his own lulz.
As you say, PLENTY of anons here know exactly wtf I'm talking about. It takes the simple ability of 'pattern-recognition'. -----Something that is an alien concept to Lefties.----Hence why they consistently insist on repeating the past mistakes of history, over & over & over again.

Amen to that. Religion is what keeps us just barely honest.

That should tell you that monogamy is the basis of peaceful civilization.

Only time I orbited is when I unknowingly invested in a woman. Not even 10 redflags would let me stop orbiting.

It's over now.

Only invest after they do.

Have sex.

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Is a peaceful society what we want? It detoriates the human race.

What the fuck is this book you are talking about, and how does it relate to my statement?

it's not nearly enough.
If people can't be honest or respectful of each other unconditionally, without grave ideological consequences, I'd rather live in a world where everyone shows their true character and intents out in the open while holding each other to impending death.

Instead of all this pussy footing bullshit pretending to put up with each other, I'd rather we expedite the outcomes and simply slaughter each other.

The reason for beta orbiters lies on this female-centric gay ass society and specifically single moms or dudes without a strong father figure. BO's are taught to respect the wamen and to worship her and that if they are submissive and nice to her that in due time, she will come around and fall in love with them and live happily ever after. You know, like in the movies! If society was allowed to be honest with itself and at the very least acknowledge the stranglehold women have in courting and social advantage overall, these people wouldn't have their heads filled with lies. People like to shit on incels and BO's but you only get like that when everyone tells you that the definition of being a good man and a worthwhile partner is to allow females to walk all over you. What's their reward for commitment to these lies? Demonization and hatred from literally everybody. And people have the gonads to cry and scream at the heavens asking would could possibly make incels and MGTOWs so bitter and angry.

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>Some woman have almost succubus like abilities that can pull in and drain the life force of every men below 7/10. These men never had someone before that wanted their care, and they believe they can attract the women of their dreams by being her aids.
Fucking this.
I dont blame guys that are beta orbiters until they are at least 30+, because most men dont even have enough experience to actually know how to deal with girls. Even after I got redpilled it still took me a little while until I were actually able to avoid female nonsense. Imagine how much more it probably takes for a normie that never in his life has learned about the female nature.

All sin is in ignorance, my friends. They just dont understand what they are doing.

...
>no

I am not Bonobo subhuman nigger monkey

I’ve been pretty anti-war but lately I’ve been thinking there are so many assholes and pure shit humans that maybe we need a good war to thin them out and let a better class of human rise to the top. The problem would be in drafting high enough numbers of assholes, I guess. I mean people who are consistently absolute cunts to their fellow man without any sort of provocation.

Maybe the way you guys make friends/define friendships is wrong.

You're not supposed to unload 15-20 years of issues on a person after 2 weeks of knowing them - it's creepy and off-putting.