Gotta love how we bash the chinks for having no regard for animal life when we do the exact same shit in every big farm in our countries. Meat production on a vast scale is fucking disgusting and the callous disregard for life is appalling. I'm not some airy fairy tree hugging vegan but if you don't think that livestock deserve better treatment you're a fucking faggot. It wouldn't be impossible to create humane farms and conditions, but us fat fuckers love our fucking pork and beef too much to handle producing any less of it despite how much food we fucking waste in our countries. Having humane conditions in both being raised and killed in return for lower production amounts is a tradeoff you should be willing to make, and if it results in the specific kind of meat you want not being available at any given point then eat something else you fat fuck, it's not like we're short on food.
>inb4 no shit they're not treated humanely, they aren't human
You're no better than a soulless chink if you think this, predation and slaughter for eating is one thing but large scale meat production is another. Life has value and living things should be treated with as much dignity as you can provide them given your own situation.
Gotta love how we bash the chinks for having no regard for animal life when we do the exact same shit in every big farm...
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agreed
I only agree up to the point that animals should be killed quickly before anything else is done. None of this burning alive to get rid of their fur first shit and other such practices. Kill the damn thing first, then do whatever.
You'd be suprised at how terrible the LIVING conditions of these animals are though. Death methods are one thing but to live your whole life in what could feasibly pass as a mechanism from Saw is just horrible. You can raise animals for slaughter without packing them like inanimate objects
agreed
More to the point. Do you really want to eat this shit? Due to the unsanitary slaughter methods chicken prossesors use they dunk the birds in 40 chlorine baths. I cant decide what is more disgusting. The chicken shit on the bird or the bleach. Buy from your local Christian sustainable farm.
I’d drink the bird bleach before I supported a Christian fag
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Jesus and his bros were vegans. It's in Enoch, and the Gospel of the Holy Twelve.
Too bad overpopulation is one of the main causes of this shit, but dumbasses hijack any attempt to stop it and slow down humanity's extinction due to the lack of enough food, clean water, energy, livable space, intelligence, conflict management, proper public and private administration...
i like cheap tendies tho, more NEET bux for vidya
>Gotta love how we bash the chinks for having no regard for animal life when we do the exact same shit in every big farm in our countries
Come again, nigger? Have you actually seen a modern slaughterhouse?
The LEAST human slaughter methods in the west are the Halal and Kosher ones.
They wash produce in chlorine. They wash the pipeworks for juice production in chlorine. You fucking swim in chlorine you idiot.
Stop being a dramatic faggot.
This is why you guys lost against the Emu's
That is not really how the USA cattle industry works though, go out to any country side and you will see grazing cattle
Yeah, I have seen modern slaughterhouses. Pic related is from one. It's not even so much slaughter methods as much as it is the entire process. Their whole lives are torture and when it comes to killing methods, many result in drawn out and needlessly painful deaths.
I 100% agree. I went vegan after working in a slaughterhouse. Despite going to the gym everyday, being a professional rescue diver, etc, fat lards still like to call me a poof. Ah well.
Agree. I watched Dominion and could hardly stomach 30 minutes of it. Granted it was filmed in Australia but if that's even remotely representative of how we treat our livestock in America, then it is well and truly fucked. We can't look at videos of chinks boiling dogs alive or whatever and go "chinks are so fucked up and soulless!!" while eating meat from Western farms where they treat the livestock no better.
It's not that I really disagree with any of this, it's just that it's such a vastly minor problem compared to other shit that goes on in the world that I find it hard to care.
I'll admit I don't know much about smaller scale/local farming and their methods, and you'll see the same shit in the countryside here with grazing animals and whatnot. My problem is with the big production factories and slaughterhouses that produce the bulk of the animals that end up in food/other products.
baizuos have double standards
I can't afford to not eat meat
I don't know how the regulations are where you live, but here the slaughterhouses are all Federally or Provincially owned. They have strict standards. Any animal delivered that is in distress, sick or wounded in any way is returned, which costs a lot of money to the farmers, so they avoid it at all costs. Also because if it happens too many times, they lose their license.
Slaughter is done after the animals are stunned. For pigs it's with a nitrogen gas chambers, for cows it's either a stun floor or restrained bolt pistol(less and less common).
Most animals are still partially pastured, depending on the time of the year and weather.
Why are so many Aussies vegan faggots? I never understood how the greatest shitposters could also be such feelsfags over MUH FARMED ANIMALS and turn gay like that.
There are no farms in USA where it is legal to drown animals in scalding water. Most animal rights violations in farms are also not allowed by the companies. Yes it's evil to clip pigs tails off and neuter them without pain numbers. I don't buy from people who do that. If you want to, go ahead.
My goal is to grow all of my meat and butcher the animals myself. To me this seems the most natural
meat is redpilled
Raising your own livestock is the only way forward. This (((society))) is truly Satanic to the core.
The unfortunate problem is that many of the stunning techniques are ineffective and prolong suffering. Obviously being gassed is unpleasant and causes the pig's eyes to burn, etc. The gas is also ineffective on larger pigs like sows and can simply cause them to become immobile and not unconscious. I am unaware of how potent stun floors are on cows but I know that due to the size and thickness of cow hide/skulls, bolt pistols often simply result in causing the animals a lot of distress and pain rather than subduing them in anyway, though it's a good thing if that technique is becoming more uncommon as you say. I would hope that most animals are pastured but unfortunately at least over here there are many that are raised in tiny pens of differing purposes their whole lives.
I'm not a vegan, I will continue to eat meat though I definitely be eating less of it and trying to source more from local farmers. I personally think that all life deserves respect, especially intelligent life like cows and pigs. It's not about the fact that we're killing them and eating them, I've no qualms with that. It's the conditions under which that is being facilitated.
I agree. I basically think that if vegans were smart, they would seek to replace the industry giants by offering a superior product and they would be good, kind caretakers of the livestock until it's fateful butcher day where the livestock are quickly killed as painlessly as possible. But I've tried to float this idea to some vegans on this board and it would seem that at least the average response from them is to then deflect from the cruelty aspect and make the problem meat eating and they have no intention to being the caretakers of the livestock. I don't have the resources to make this happen on my own, but I have the mind to make plans for others to create and build with. The trouble is finding those that are actually honest about why they are doing what they do. I'm not sure what else to tell you. Happy Easter, OP.
Pic is from an instance in which all attempts to subdue and render the animal unconscious had failed. The fate that awaited it was drowning as it had already progressed down the line due to becoming immobile and presumed unconscious. The other animals in that shot are probably already unconscious, the scalding water is to remover fur/bristles, etc.
> Still relies on antibiotic steroid ridden beef and pork littered with cipro and other dangerous chemicals. Does give two shits about the fluoride laced in there water supply or the roundup sprayed all over there whole foods crops.
> Thinks they are morally superior because they buy free range crap at trader joes
> Literally hasn't grown or killed an animal as means of survival and in complete natural state
> Thinks major food corporations like Tyson etc will actually change practices and stop destroying meat
> Thinks major fertilizer conglomerates are not an issue
> Will never live off the land and be completely sustainable for future offspring while living without jew currency
seriously why even live
That would be the ideal future, and if it were to make the price of meat go up so be it. I personally think that animal rearing could become an industry that supports many more jobs if caring for animals become more individual and thus required more hands. I don't think meat consumption is evil or wrong in any way, just this specific way of going about it. Happy Easter to you too.
> meat production is cruel guyz!
until your realize major plant production (the crap they feed those animals), is just as bad if not worse then you're part of the problem.
Most of that is after they’re dead. I spent some time at a meat factory and they use a steel rod injection machine that punches a hole in their brain and kills them near instantly. Anything after they’re dead doesn’t matter as animal cruelty since it’s going to support 30 different industries and using every single part.
Oh yeah, food production on all sides is a fucked industry. I've worked in food packaging and the lack of supervision is astonishing. Monsanto is another issue altogether, very very scary entity that one is.
The animals in your factory are lucky then. Perhaps things are different in America but there is definitely a lot of animal cruelty that goes into the raising and killing of animals over here
it's because we are supporting this massive population of 8 billion people we need industrial meat production.
Imagine of the world had been colonized by Europeans, we could live in relatively low population density, comfy family farms and free-roaming cattle. There are vast tracts of arable land in Africa, India, China, Brazil....etc that are going underutilized and completely wasted
>Gotta love how we bash the chinks for having no regard for animal life when we do the exact same shit in every big farm in our countries.
drawing blood or flesh eating is degenerate. abstain
I wonder if Indians were saying this shit during the thousands of years they were fighting each other for land and resources.
Or did it just come up when Europeans showed up and appropriated everything by right of conquest?
>complains about population number
>wants more arable land to be utilized
exactly, hency why Amazonian tribes have low fertility rates yet sustain perfectly viable populations and free from jew influence. yet at this time jews are coming and enslaving even the last free ppl.
work work work eat chemical food drink fluoride send children to jew education get (((weekends))) retire after 30 years of wage slavery...
its all so tiresome...
Is that why injuns would regularly butcher one another before transitioning to buying casinos?
>Obviously being gassed is unpleasant and causes the pig's eyes to burn
Nigga are you retarded? I said nitrogen gas chambers. That means replacing the 20% of Oxygen in the air, with Nitrogen, which already makes up the other 80%. Their body, just like our body, doesn't detect this happening, they just pass out, get strung up and bled.
Captured bolt pistols are amazingly efficient if used properly, user errors can result in more pain, but still not as much as older slaughter methods. But that's why they're mostly being replaced by stun floors or stun collars for bovines.
pretty sure the quoted isn't indian that just some gay background more the meaning of the actual text is truth.
What do we have here....a Meet your Meat thread? I saw the old burned dvds they used to push..
I hate the concept of natives consistently bitching about "muh stolen land" when in reality there ancestors were either backstabbers or too cowardice to stop it not to mention died by disease.
not to say some natives and to this day are red pilled on sustainability and the agriculture and currency jew.
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Not an expert on gasses, sorry leaf. I know that some of the gasses used on farms here do cause major distress outside of the obvious suffocating to death. Stun collars are another method that can definitely be ineffective on the larger animals like bolt pistols. I know that killing animals is gonna result in pain no matter what and I'm trying my hardest not to sound like a whiny bitch but there has to be better methods.
okay great sure
just go kill off 80% of the global population so that we can go back go farming ethically
until then shut the fuck up dogcunt retard
canacucks are shitty posters and you will be overridden with chinks and muslims if your aren't already and then youll rethink your faggot belief
nice feels based rebuttal retarded mutt
i liked it when you made no fucking points whatsofucking ever nigger
kill yourself shitskin
>I'm not some airy fairy tree hugging vegan
yes you are, don't lie to me
>Gotta love how we bash the chinks
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Then humans have the gall to cry about Jews fucking with them through chemical means. Cosmic karma
>right of conquest
>right
muslims have a right to conquer eruope if they can, i guess? fucking idiot's and your cognitive dissonance
>but there has to be better methods.
Find one then. The gas chambers are by far the most humane, hell they'd be the most humane for human executions too, if it wasn't for the negative connotations of gas chambers. Reason they're not used on bovines is that it takes too long to replace the air in a large room for them. For pigs it's economical cause they're short, you can fit a dozen in a small room with low ceiling, replace the air and they pass out in a minute or two.
Nothing is ever going to be perfect, but it's not like every single cow killed by captured bold or electrical stunning survives it and dies in horrible pain. It's a minority that does.
Also it's still better than the death animals get in the wild. Nothing gets a nice clean peaceful death in the wilds. They get to starve, die of exposure, or get eaten alive by predators. Look up some fucking discovery channel about large felines eating the guts of their prey while the prey still lives to get an idea of what reality is like. We might not be doing a perfect job, but in the west, outside of abuse cases, we're doing a much better job.
Yes it is. You actually think mass produced ground beef comes from free-grazing healthy cows? Grass-fed beef is easily 3x more expensive and hard to find in most supermarkets. Cattle are stuffed into crowded feed lots where they eat corn which they don’t digest properly and wallow in their own shit.
Yeah, I mostly agree when it comes to deaths. I don't think it's possible to avoid pain and distress when you're literally killing something. I have a much bigger issue with how the animals are bred and raised than how they're killed.
>I'm not some airy fairy tree hugging vegan
You're also a liar
MMM THIS BLEACHED CHICKEN SHIT IS DELICOUS HOWS YOURS HONEY
The pig portion is the worst. Keep in mind pigs are as intelligent as dogs. Maybe hell is being reincarnated as one of these pigs...
ya, that's kinda how nature works. in a fair fight, we slaughter them by the millions
>muslims have a right to conquer eruope if they can, i guess?
yes, might makes right
The hospital rooms are bleached too honey
>that's kinda how nature works
that has nothing to do with nature you social darwinist retard
>might makes right
i really hope you arent one of the pussies who whines about white genocide
Go shoot up a mosque you useless cunt
from what i have learned, if the animal is distressed when it dies, the meat tastes much worse and even bitter, as adrenaline was flowing through their veins.
>Gotta love how we bash the chinks for having no regard for animal life when we do the exact same
Wrong dumbfuck, we treat animals as resource and spend bare minimum to maintain them. Chinks treat animals as playthings and actually do enjoy torturing them for false belief that meat will taste better. We treat animals like robots, sure, but chinks treat them like monsters. There's difference letting animal to have shit life so we can save resources and skinning/boiling them alive for meme beliefs.
>There's difference
>this level of cope
you literally have no idea what OP is talking about. why dont you check out the documentary Earthlings? 100% you wont come out with the same level of thinking you presented here
chickens literally bawk and pick at dirt all day long, seriously they are like the least likeable animals ever which is why you're a totally faggot if you get upset over them dying.