Why dont they just reunite in Yugoslavia again?

They're basically the same people, speak the same serbo-croat language, have previous history together under different governments, etc.
Seems like the only real difference among them was religion, but nowadays they all atheists anyway, so why bother?

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why? they're the same shit

>but nowadays they all atheists anyway

Bosnia has a call to prayer ever 4 fucking hours you mentally retarded nigger, religion is still the most predominant identity they have, kill your self.

Jesus Christ, you're a retard if you think the only problem is the religion. Religion isn't even a problem outside of muslims who are getting more radicalized. It's the ethnic hate because were were together in the same country. Serbia wants to control the whole region, Croatia wants to be independent are exert its influence to a lesser degree than Serbia. How do you reconcile that?
The language was standardized for a 100 years in the same country, now that we're separate, it will slowly diverge. Cultural differences between regions tend to be huge (especially east v west).

they could be oppressed minority, no one care about bosnian
>it will slowly diverge
not if you reunite

In 100 years the Balkan will be known as greater Albania. Serbs, Croats and Bosniaks will go extinct

They all look the same to me anyways

Fucking hell I feel like we are going to suffer the same fate as Yugoslavia. Also is Bosnia ever gonna go to war with Croatia for a coastline

you will with that attitude

Alright, got a pack of Drina, some coffee. Lets do this shit.
Also suck a bag of dicks OP, Yugoslavia is the worst thing that happened to Serbia.

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Bosnia has a coastline but they're too busy shagging goats to build a port there

Seems to me everyone there was only mad about Serbia acting like Yugoslavia was Serboslavia

user you should make a tour in all of these countries and start making speeches in main square of every city and village.

You are both Eastern European subhumans. Only difference is one is Catholic and other is Orthodox

>t. burger with absolutely no knowledge of who lives in BiH

Fuck off. Serbians are subhuman, don't lump based croats with them

Because things went just great the first time

when are you going home

And EU will become one country with one people under one goverment. They all are immoral atheist anyway...

They did for 100 years

>Croatia wants to be independent
so that's why you guys are in the EU and have been under someone your entire history?
Croats hate themselves because they're Serbs

But they are not serbo-croat speakers with a common history

Sure, almost a 80 years of common history

Faggot kys

please dont
t. slovenian

Yeah what's the point realy. Croatia wanted self determination but joined the EU. And when the whole region eventually joins the EU the yugoslav war will seem like a massive waste of time.

Why are Turks such trash i swear to god...

Would dominate football tbf. Imagine Pjanic, Matic and Modric in the same team. Based. Tbf (((Tito))) was a subhuman though

it's simple math. they breed like rats

Do Macedonians even identify as slavs or do they still larp as Ancient Greeks?

Yeah but wtf are they anymore? Not Asian, not arab, not european, not black

LOL faker country than Palestine, Israel or Kosovo

kike?

No. Sicilian?

Yes, that seem to be the case in all white countries.

The region won't join EU because EU will fall apart in a few years, maybe even next year.
The yugoslav wars were not just a waste of time and life, but were an experiment for a larger scale social engineering project.
Everything, from SFRJ itself to the wars was designed and planned by the (((international community)))
There is a reason why they call it "balkanization"
It will happen to you too

Hello Dioclean Croat

I do hope it falls apart. This thing is turning into an authoritarian nightmare.

Bosnia would be a practical example how such a country would look like.

>muh Vatican American German conspiracy
fuck off, you monkey started shit, destroyed catholic churches and bombed unesco monuments

youtube.com/watch?v=fqso_4OCcMk
>"we will destroy dubrovnik, and rebuild it bigger and older"
>"ustashe are burning tires so it looks like we are bombing them"

We broke Yugoslav federation because system was failing, not because of some nationalist agenda. Croatian politicians wanted to switch to free-market democracy and reform Yugoslavia to confederation similar to EU. War hapened because Greater-Serbian fascists led by Slobodan Milošević took control over Serbia and Montenegro and started conquering everything. I read somewhere that if you asked Croatians on referendum in 1989 only 11% would vote for independece, while only 2 years later 90% of them voted for independence. This isn't because of some irrational hatred towards yugoslav unification or some nationalist agenda, this happened because Croatia was attacked by fascist genicidal agressors and rebels.

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stop reviving the idea of yugoslavia, it failed 2 fucking times
why cant you people leave us alone, go talk about sri lanka or notre dame or some shit like that

kek

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>This thing is turning into an authoritarian nightmare
>turning
It's by design. Every modern country in Europe is designed to be this way because (((global markets))) have to be somewhat homogeneous.
What they did here, they'll do in the West too, just on a much bigger and more sinister scale.
The shitskins they import will soon have a right of autonomy and the politicians that enable it will either just fade away and disappear without any punishment or change their tune and talk only to 'minorities' until their agenda is fulfilled.

>the war started because some bombs fell on Dubrovnik
And here I was thinking Tudjman accepted foreign bank credits and aid because he wanted his own ethnically clean 'country', but what do I know, I was just there when it was happening.
The first casualty of war is truth, don't forget that my western brother. Soon enough, they'll tell you you're the animal and the rapist for standing up for your own people, and then you'll realize how wrong your whole idea of history was.

>Serbia wants to control the entire region,
Oh yeah, I remember Serbs purging 200.000 Croats from Krajina, Serbs purging Albanians from Kosovo and terrorising a small remnant, Serbs invading Bulgaria over Nis in the Balkan wars, Serbs Allahu Akbaring Bosnian Muslims, yeah we are the evil aggressors. If you look at a map from 70 years ago and compare it to the one today clearly you see Serbia 5x bigger than before because of all of the conquests.
If you think we want anything other than to be left alone, and if you think we are the ones trying to subjugate others, you are braindead.

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nuke all balkan threads

It's all just second generation out of touch diaspora zoomer faggots spouting whatever bullshit their pussy ass immigrant father told them while they live in Canada/Germany/Australia etc

>muh 200 000
start shit get hit

Most Serbs from Krajina that left, were taken by Serb separtist forces, you can find video of them practicing huge escape, nobody came knocking on their Door and senf them away, no one was purging, there were a few isolated crimes during Oluja, but still it were fairly small numebers, less civilians were killed during Oluja than in one afternoon when Serb forces conquered Škabrnja

Yeah communism was a big problem but I read somewhere that Tudjman wanted to secure the independante of Croatia. Politicians fuck everything up.

>This isn't because of some irrational hatred towards yugoslav unification or some nationalist agenda, this happened because Croatia was attacked by fascist genicidal agressors and rebels.

That's what fear can do to people. If croat's weren't affraid of muh greater serbia and serbs of muh ustasha nothing would've happened.

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alright, this is outright propaganda
we are wild, there is no doubt, but that doesnt justify your claims
your WW2 and recent history is still not forgotten here

you must also remember that the serbs fled and fought the turks as best as they could. You pussy croats couldnt fend off a bit of serbs from your lands, so you had to whine to NATO a couple of centuries later

>Croats want independence from Yugoslavia - ok
>Serbs want independence from Croats - lol fuck you don't start shit

Ae procitaj ceo post, debilu. I pogledaj zastavu.

Franjo Tuđman at first advocated democracy in united confederal Yugoslavia, but his plan was partially rejected from Slovenian politicians that wanted only customs unio rather than a confederation and also fully rejected by Serbian politicans that became fascist all of the sudden. So he started advocating independence and self-determination for Croatia which was a constitutional right of every Yugoslav republic.

Croats were afraid of Greater Serbian fascist ideology because politicians from Serbia and Montenegro actually tried to make it happen, so it was justifyied. Some Serbs were afraid of ustashe because they were brainwashed by propaganda from Milošević's regime, so it isn't justifyied but it is understandable.

ok cuck, live in your stupid propaganda world and poverty

Why merge as Jugoslavia when you could merge as pic related? EU membership gives all the benefits of Big Jugoslavia, plus freedom of movement over a much larger area and the benefit of a common defense in the event Russia, Turkey, or Saudi Arabia start to think about invading, and human rights standards to stop the ethnonats from making too much trouble.

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Fuck off kike

NATO didn't help Croatian forces during the war. We also fought the Turkish forces, and ulike you we were never conquered. Quit living in your propaganda bubble.

And Milosevic just wanted to give Serbia a status of republic, which was the only region without one, and some Croats were brainwashed by your propaganda thinking we're coming to genocide you all.

Right so this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Škabrnja_massacre is the same as globalresearch.ca/us-croatia-war-crimes-krajina-largest-act-of-ethnic-cleansing-since-the-holocaust/20492
62 Croats is the same as almost 3000 Serbs and another quarter of a million expelled. Come on now, you're smarter than this.

Enjoy your poverty shithole

>move to another country and demand independence
serbs
>oy vey how dare albanians move to my country and demand independence
also serbs

top kek

>you started it
>no YOU started it
repeat ad nauseam

If you had the choice, would YOU rather live as an ordinary guy in Yugoslavia circa 1950 or Slovenia now?

>We were never conquered
Now you're just being retarded.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Hungary
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Republic_of_Venice
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_Empire
At least we admit to being vassals, you act as though you were the overlords.

>Serbs shouldn't have Krajina since they migrated to it
>But Albanians should have Kosovo for the same reasons
I am willing to be consistent, but you first.

Same way as Scotland was conquered by england

No that was Austria-Hungary. You would have been closer to Ireland.

this

That's like asking if you'd rather live in the USSR or Finland. The difference is staggering. Avg wage in Slovenia is ~1100€, minimum wage is 700€, unemployment benefits (before any other benefits) for a single person is 390€.

Not really western EU tier but basically being a neet pays as much as the average wage in most of ex-yugoslavia now. During the Yugoslav era my family literally smuggled everything from coffee and electronics to fucking jeans across the border (for personal use, mind you). Even "exotic" fruit like bananas were a rare thing. My grandpa was hot shit because he had a Russian Lada while the 'plebs' drove license built Fiats such as Zastava 101's, 'Fičos' and fucking Yugo's.

See, the thing is we don't give a fuck about Kosovo and we don't give a fuck about Krajina either and the entire Krajina shitshow predated the Kosovo shitshow. The Kosovao Albanians literally used the same justification that Serbs tried using in Krajina except they got away with it and now you guys are the equivalent of a bully crying because he got bullied harder and that's 'unfair'.

No, I would suggest to read wikipedia article before posting.
Serbia was for example conquered by Turkey, Croatia was joined as kingdom with Hungary through dynastic succesion.

Fixed it for you

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The CIA orchestrated war in the Balkans had been so bloody that they now utterly despise each other.
And their identity is rooted in religion instead of race which will keep them forever divided.

Croatia is at least 85% catholic

Slovenes are genetically closer to Austrians, Macedonians are Bulgarians. Theres no Yugoslavian race

Fuck off bulg*r we serbs nao

And there is no German race either.
It's just a bunch of closely related tribes forming union, like literally every other country.

So whats your point? We should unite with Serbia because are languages were forcefully assimilated 100 years ago.
Ask Saudi does he feel he is same as Egyptian because you speak same language and follow same religion.

>Slovenes are genetically closer to Austrians
Kind of, we cluster closest with western Slavs and since both Austrians and Hungarians had large Slavic populations it makes sense we'd cluster with them as well.

>In total 39-36% of 399-458 sampled Slovenian males belong to Y-DNA Haplogroup R1a, more frequent than in South Slavic peoples, constituting 41% in the capital region and greater in some regions. Slovenian population displays close genetic affiliations with West Slavic populations. The homogenous genetic strata of the West Slavic populations and the Slovenian population suggest the existence of a common ancestral Slavic population in central European region.[29] The M458 branch constitutes 4%, while the dominant clade is Z280, specifically its R1a-CTS3402 clade, the same as that of their Slavic and not Slavic neighbours.[30] The Z92 branch of Z280 which is significant among East Slavs is recorded as completely absent among Slovenes.[31]

It's the same for northwestern Croats while Dalmatians and Herzegovians are basically Slavicized natives of the Balkans clustering with other neighboring Balkan populations and...Sardinians.

>Also is Bosnia ever gonna go to war with Croatia for a coastline
No, that part of the country is filled with Croats.

It doesn't, that part is Herzegovina and it's full of Croats.

>Ask Saudi does he feel he is same as Egyptian
We are genetically and culturally different from the Saudis by a large margin, much larger than the difference between you and the Serbs.
And you don't just share a language, you share common geo-political interests, religion, history and you are closely related genetically.
If you keep fighting one another, you will be eternally destined to be vassals of someone else's empire.
Even if America just backs off, Russia will just step in and back it's favourite horse.
None of the great powers want to see a cohesive, sovereign power forming in the Balkan region.
And btw, Russia is way more heterogeneous than the Yugoslav.

Gibz Kumanovo street sandvichi

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>he's mad he wasn't part of the most chad country in existence

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Because it would be negative for every side involved except maybe Macedonia or some shit.
Fuck off, we want nothing to do with any of you

>lives in luxurious manors across the country
>had a private fucking train to ride around with
>had a private aircraft to fly around with
>had a fucking 5000 ton 100+ meter 'yacht' to cruise around with
>smoked Cuban cigars directly from Castro
>committed """""""socialist""""""
Tito may have been a chad but the rest of the population were virgins driving in the cuckmobiles to Germany for work so they could send money home and survive

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You and Saudis are both Sunni Arabs, that were part od same empires for hundreds of years, common peoples nationalist rethoric of bot Egyptians and Saudis is not nationalistic but religious, or at best ethno-religious one (average peasant will indentify more with palestinian or other muslim then with copt).
We and Serbs were through our 100 years of common history each others worst enemy, and before that are relation were ambivalent or at best friendly because of common threat of Turks, catholic and orthodox never intermarried, we followed different customs, had different names and before Yugoslavia different language.
And Russia is far less heterogenous than Yugoslavia despite its size, anyone acquainted with Russian and Serbo-Croatian will tell you Serbo-Croatian dialects are far more divergent, we have three religions and cultures divided by millenia and half of political dissunity.
And really dont kid yourself economically undeveloped country of 20 million people is no threat to anyone.

>And you don't just share a language
We didn't before

>you share common geo-political interests
Which are?

>religion
Nigga are you serious, it's not that simple.
You probably think we're both christian so whatever, that's not how it works around here.
Why are muslims still killing each other if they're the same religion?

>history
You couldn't be more wrong. This is actually the biggest difference.
Our shared history consists of 2 failed Yugoslav states, that's like 70 years of common history and both of them fell apart on bad terms that ended in wars.
You realize we lived with Hungarians relatively peacefully for 800 years?
And that Croatian territory was at one time or another part of AH Empire, Venice, France (due to it's geographical position and catholicism, naturally it had more western influence), most of which had nothing to do with Serbian kingdoms?

yugoslavia was everything but not serboslavia when milosevic wanted to return kosovo and vojvodina to serbia slovenia and croatia wanted to leave "big serbia"

No one gave a fuck about kosovo or vojvodina, but if you want them 3 times more votes than other republics.

'you cant have

then why did you want to leave ?

also read carefully what you typed "other republics." so vojvodina with 96% serbs are hungarian republic funny and you ask why milosevic got elected

there were plan for an pan arabic state after WWI. Abrab tribes were all for it but europeans came and plit the midle east emang themmsleves

*blocks your reunification*

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Yugoslavia is a textbook proof that multi ethnic, multi religious, multikulti societies doesn't work.

>the system was failing, so we commited an illega l act of independence. when serbs said fine, fuck off, but serbian populated parts are staying, we told them to fuck off and started a war which fucked the entire region up for the next century
wow, based defenders of europe
>and reform Yugoslavia to confederation similar to EU
you wanted to reform it to something where you could legally just walk away after a few years, and of course take serbian populated and historically serbian areas with you. your generosity really knew no bounds.

Truly the kikes of Yugoslavia, literally the fifth column since 1918 to 1991

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yugoslavia would work if that country was named big serbia democracy never worked even in socialist utopia

Because Milosevic abused 3 votes of Serbia and its 2 autonomous regions + Montenegro against 4 other republics to block any attempts to reform Yugoslavia, while arming its minority to exert even more pressure on other republics.

the idea of balkanisation comes from this conflict.

>abused
nigga he literally used the legal process that was written into a constitution which was made to apease you. basically "when we were pushing our agenda, it was ok, but now that you are doing it it's opression"
>arming its minority
by the time we "armed our minority" the referendums on independence were a certainty, we'd be retarded not to arm them

The term refers to the division of the Balkan peninsula, formerly ruled almost entirely by the Ottoman Empire, into a number of smaller states between 1817 and 1912.[3, Pringle 2016.] It was coined in the early 19th century and has a strong negative connotation.[4,Simic 2013, p. 128.]

What about letting different populations autodetermine themselves, you meme libertarian?

my bad. I always thought it referred to this.