B... But Jesus was a jew !

come on OP, we all know Jesus was a white European rape baby.

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Jesus was indian and then the lost tribes became indians and killed him and got the something about washington red skins and steel balls

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You're making things up again Arnold.
youtube.com/watch?v=F_gN6JlIJAA

>jesus wasn't a jew because he was born 5 minutes away from the traditional borders of Judea

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Hey Zeus, whats happening

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jesus was a rabbi, as only rabbis could preach at the Jewish temple

>Galilee
Land of Gauls
Gauls = Celts
Don't get too cocky about the name, Franks are Goths.

not a Christian, but you just know a bunch of kikes had a huge laugh putting this together and shoving it in Christian's faces.

Jesus had hair like wool and feet like bronze. So it would make sense hes a jew because jewish women love cheating on their husbands with black cock.

> Surface surveys indicate no human occupation of the Galilee during the sixth and seventh centuries BCE. A few scattered, small settlements began to appear in following centuries, mostly military outposts and a few small farming communities which sent their harvests to the coastal cities. The same conclusions can be drawn from the excavations of major sites as well. So Galilee remains essentially empty for more than half a millennium following the Assyrian invasions.

>The archaeological evidence reveals a sudden change about the start of the first century BC. Over a period of a couple decades, dozens of new villages appear. This indicates that a new, rather large, population comes into Galilee. The trend continues for the next half century or so, with many new settlements appearing and then growing larger.

>Who were these new inhabitants? These new archaeological findings indicate that they were transplanted Judeans. The ancient historian Josephus relates how Alexander Jannaeus, the King of Israel from 102 to 76 BC, extended the northern boundary of his Judean-centered country into Galilee during his reign using military means.

>The archaeology reveals that the new inhabitants were Judeans. First, the currency of the region is now that of the Judean Janneaus and his successors; it is not that of the coastal cities or of Damascus further north in Syria. Second, excavated village areas reveal the same interest in religious purity common among Judeans, with ritual baths cut out of the bedrock and houses that contained stone bowls, cups and plates that were impervious to impurity. Third, the Galileans followed a Judean diet in that they did not eat pork; no pig bones are found in the garbage dumps.

>So the archaeological research of recent decades now shows that the Galilean population of Jesus’ time were descendants of Judean immigrants of a century or so earlier.

And here I always thought Franks were Emos.. well fuck me in butter.

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Just the faggots... oh, nevermind. You're right.

So he was Gaelic?

>Jesus was a descendant of David
Sure he was. He wuz kangs.

More or less correct. Being a Jew in 1AD isn't what it is now. He was only really a Jew in the sense of being a monotheist from the middle east. Ethnically, he was probably a mutt.

Oh okay. Where are the Galileans in history?
Oh that's right they were JEWS. and that's just the name of the region that Jews lived in

>what is the book of matthew chapter 1

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Genealogical larping.

Where is this disputed? If it was false you'd find contemporary books disputing the genealogy. But you don't.

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Modern scholarship tends to see the genealogies of Jesus as theological constructs rather than factual history: family pedigrees would not usually have been available for non-priestly families, and the contradictions between the two lists are seen as clear evidence that these were not based on genealogical records. Additionally, the use of titles such as 'Son of God' and 'Son of David' are seen as evidence that they do not come from the earliest Gospel traditions.[29] Raymond E. Brown says the genealogies "tell us nothing certain about his grandparents or his great-grand-parents".[30] Marcus Borg and John Dominic Crossan contend that both genealogies are inventions to support Messianic claims.[31]

>Modern scholarship
this is false, only some non believers do.

>family pedigrees would not usually have been available for non-priestly families
the most important man in history would have been exposed by anyone with access to family genealogical records if it had been known to be false during that time.

>and the contradictions between the two lists are seen as clear evidence that these were not based on genealogical records
there is no contradiction between "the two lists".

>the use of titles such as 'Son of God' and 'Son of David' are seen as evidence that they do not come from the earliest Gospel traditions
how so? They precisely show genealogy, it's the opposite.

>Raymond E. Brown, Marcus Borg and John Dominic Crossan
fringe atheist non believers. Why would you rely on them? They are in the minority.

also nice copy pasta from some site kid.

That's Galatia
Galiliee was called Galil which means a rod or a ring

>there is no contradiction between "the two lists".
Yes there is. The Gospel of Luke gives a different genealogy.

Raymond Brown and John Grossman were both Catholic priests as well as bible scholars. Marcus Borg was not an atheist, but a biblical scholar who earned his Masters in Theology, and then his Phd., at Oxford, where he taught. So he's hardly 'fringe'.

I tried.

>Yes there is. The Gospel of Luke gives a different genealogy.
Nope, same genealogy.

>Crossan, Brown, catholic.
exactly, and the catholic church isn't a Christian church.

WLC asked Crossan if God existed before the dawn of humanity. Crosssan’s first response was that it was basically a meaningless question.

Borg was a longtime atheist, who had moved from monotheism to agnosticism to atheism

>So he's hardly 'fringe'.
Why not? They believe things none of their peers believe. They are VERY fringe.

>I tried.
Pathetic, lame.

You asked me where it was disputed in contemporary books and claimed that there were none. Then I cited some for you, but they don't count in your mind because they're by Catholics. You claim that Marcus Borg is an atheist, despite the fact that he's currently the first canon theologian at Trinity Episcopal Cathedral.
Clearly any answer I give will be a waste of time because you're determined to believe that The Bible is a work of factual history, when it is not.

I'm about to btfo everyone in this thread please hold my beer.

Jesus is god

>currently
Not currently, but from 2009 to his death in 2015
Also, the Gospel of Luke DOES give a different genealogy. Read it.

Means kike bullshit.
Gallia, Galatia, Galilee, all are Celtic territories.

The very first verse of the New Testament clearly proclaims the Jewish ethnicity of Jesus. “The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham” (Matthew 1:1). It is evident from passages like Hebrews 7:14, “For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah,” that Jesus descended from the tribe of Judah, from which we get the name “Jew.” And what about Mary, the mother of Jesus? In the genealogy in Luke chapter 3, we see clearly that Mary was a direct descendant of King David which gave Jesus the legal right to ascend the Jewish throne as well as establishing without any doubt that Jesus was a Jew ethnically.

>You asked me where it was disputed in contemporary books
contemporary to the time of Jesus dummy.

>You claim that Marcus Borg is an atheist
trinities.org/blog/marcus-borgs-atheism/

>despite the fact that he's currently the first canon theologian at Trinity Episcopal Cathedral.
No, he's dead since 2015

>Clearly any answer I give will be a waste of time
Cry more. You rely on modern atheists and catholic fringe people for your knowledge on the most studied texts in world history. The idiot here is you my friend.

>Gospel of Luke DOES give a different genealogy. Read it.

I have read it, it doesn't.

capitalize your G next time

Furthermore, Yeshua was a Nazarene, a subsect of the Essene. The distinction between Essene and the Pharisee/Saducee was the adherence to talmud. While the Pharisee and Saducee were debating their versions of talmud, the Essene wholly rejected it.

No talmud = not a Jew
Face it, Yeshua was not a Jew, you've been lied to.

Worship of Yahweh was not called 'jewish' at the time of Jesus, calling Jesus a jew is an anachronism.

Talmudists were divided into two theocratic political parties, the Saducee and the Pharisee. Most of them lived in Judea.

It was a Greek colony. I bet you believe Australia has been always full of white dudes lmao

>trinities.org/blog/marcus-borgs-atheism/
Well he seems to be the most religious atheist I've ever heard of!
So was Joseph's father Jacob or Heli? Matthew says the former, Luke says the latter.
>last 7 generations (patrilinear) according to Mathew
Achim
Eliud
Eleazar
Matthan
Jacob
Joseph
Jesus
>last 7 generations according to Luke
Jannai
Melchi
Levi
Matthat
Heli
Joseph
Jesus

Matthew traced Christ’s lineage through Joseph, his legal father, Luke traced it through Mary, beginning with Mary’s father, Heli.

You don't even know that. Quit browsing stupid atheist websites geez.

David wasn't a Jew.

Who gives a fuck

Wrong
Jews are from Edom
Jews LARP as Judahite Judeans

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So Joseph and Mary were brother and sister?
The matrilinear/patrilinear explanation is merely theoretic, and doesn't explain many other discrepancies.
Also, use your common sense. Why and how would Jesus's family even have a reliable genealogy?
Mathew was likely writing from the point of view of prophecy, not actual history. Of course they would want to see Jesus having descended from a long line of kings, but in all likelihood he was just a carpenter in Nazareth with no clue who his great-grandfather was, let alone going back dozens of generations.

He was one of the first kings of the Jews. God even told him through his lineage He would establish his kingdom forever.

>2Sa 7:12 And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom.
>2Sa 7:13 He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.

>The genealogy of Judah unto Jesse the father of David
biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Chronicles 2&version=GNV

>Furthermore, Yeshua was a Nazarene, a subsect of the Essene.
Nazarene is someone from Nazareth. They just happened to be the first converts to Christianity but they were Judahites (from the tribe of Judah). Not Judeans from the Kingdom of Judah.

Nazarenes - the first Judahite converts to Christianity
Nazarites - Isrealites who took vows to not cut thier hair or imbibe in Alcohol. Yeshua's Brother James was one. Their title was Nazir.
Nazarites
Lam. 4:7 Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire.

Jesus and his brother were Nazarites.

Sorry should have read.
Not Judeans from the Kingdom of Judea.

I Live in Galilee. ya'll should come. very beautiful this time of the year : )

Biblical terms for Jow Forums

Cannanites are not from Cain. Kennites are.
Cannanites are from Caannan, son of Ham, son of Noah.
After the 12th century BC they became known as the Phoenicians and later the Venetians.

Askenazi Jews are from Ashkenaz the first son of Gomer, son of Japhet, son of Noah.
The rest oif the Jews are from the Edomites through Esau. Esau was the son of Isaac and Rebekah, and the grandson of Abraham and Sarah.
He was thrown out of the tribe for Marrying two Caananite (sub tribe Hittite) women. For race mixing basically.

Cain's children eventually mixed with the children of Canaan. Now we have several families of a Satanic, incestuous, fallen angel seedlines. These are all referred to as Canaanites.
Kenites – direct descendants of Cain.
Kenizzites – branch of Kenites, nomadic hunters.
Kadomites – serpent worshipers of the Middle East, Mt Herman where the fallen angels descended from Heaven.
Hitties – descendants of Heth son of Caanan. Also the tribe Esau married into, corrupting his line.
Perizzites – dwelled in the north Canaan forest country of Shechem, eventually mixed in with the Caananites 100%.
Rephaim - Giants
Amorites – offspring of the fallen angels and Canaan's descendants
Ammonites - the seedline of Lot and his first daughter, sworn enemy of Isreal
Moabites - the seedline of Lot and his second daughter, sworn enemy of isreal
Cannanites – Canaan's (son of Ham, grandson of Noah) descendants that stayed with him. Mixed with Kennites, became the Phoenicians.
Girgashites – prehistoric nomads mixed with Canaanites
Gibeonites - A tribe of Cannanites that pretended to be isrealites. Became a protected people of Isreal.
Jebusites – another hybrid tribe pre-Israelite inhabitants of Jerusalem mixed with Canaanites
Edomites - descendents of Esau mixed Cannanites, Hittites and Amorites - The seedline of New Testement Jews - Sephardic Jews today
Amalekite - the seedline of Amalek son of Eliphaz,son of Esau, ancestor of the Edomites

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Khazars - from the first son of Gomer, son of Japhet, son of Noah - Ashkenazi Jews
Arabs - from Ishmael, son of Abraham

God - Yahweh Elohim
Jesus - Yeshua Messiah
Jew - Edomite / Caananite / Kenite
Judean - a citizen of the Kingdom of Judah of any racial stock, tribe or religion.
Israelite- The 10 tribes under the leadership of Jeroboam from the Tribe of Ephraim split from the House of David to create the Northern Kingdom of Isreal.
Judahite- The tribes of Judah and Benjamin remaining loyal to the House of David. These tribes formed the Kingdom of Judah - Yeshua's bloodline.
Israel - the Physical Kingdom of Isreal
Isreal - The Seed line of Jacob (later renamed Isreal) grandson of Abraham (Isrealites and Judahites are both Isreal)
Israel - The United Monarchy of (Israel+Judah)
Essenes - Judahites who did not marry and pass on their seed. An ascetic Class of priests
Naassenes - the earliest gnostics, students of Mariamne the Edomite from the House of Herod
Nazarenes - the first Judahite converts to Christianity
Nazarites - Isrealites who took vows to not cut thier hair or imbibe in Alcohol. Yeshua's Brother James was one. Their title was Nazir.
Pharisee - A priestly class of primarily Edomites who followed the Tradition of the Elders (Babylonian Talmud) as equal to the Torah.
Saducee - Controllers of the priesthood. Always Edomites who did not believe in the resurrection of the dead, or in any other form of immortality

Yeshua was a Judahite
Yeshua was NOT an Edomite
Yeshua was NOT a Caananite
Yeshua was NOT a Kennite

So Yeshua was NOT a Jew

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mind if i bring a few nukes?

En effet, les Gaulois fondèrent la Galilée. L’armée de Ségovèse quitta Delphes et poursuivi sa route pour se rendre en Asie mineure où elle établit des colonies portant le nom de Galatie et de Galilée. Il arrivèrent jusqu’à Constantinople ou ils laissèrent la trace de leur passage puisqu’un quartier porte le nom de Galata. Bref, depuis des siècles on nous enseigne que Jésus était Juif et même qu’il fut le plus illustre des Juifs. Ors, il est beaucoup plus logique et raisonnable de penser que Jésus était un descendant de Japhet, c’est-à-dire gaulois volques Tectosage du midi de la Gaule. Cette particularité explique autant le débarquement des proches du Christ sur la terre de ses ancêtres (la France) par Sainte Marie de la mer et aussi le dépôt des restes de sainte Anne en terre méridionale...

>So Joseph and Mary were brother and sister?
(pic)

>Why and how would Jesus's family even have a reliable genealogy?
No, the question is why wouldn't they?

>Mathew was likely writing from the point of view of prophecy
... that's your theory? You have to go by the scholars, they are the studied ones concerning the religious texts. It doesn't matter if you pull me a fringe catlick or atheist one who believes this, they are unbelievers and the broad spectrum of biblical scholars don't believe this.

>Of course they would want to see Jesus having descended from a long line of kings
Show his contemporary scholar's work exposing his genealogy once it was printed/recorded in matthew and luke for all to see.

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Christcucks live in denial about their jew worship, its hilarious yet sad.

>basing someone's ethnicity off of where they were born
Yes and Achmed from London is very British

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true jews/ewes/sheep are from jupiter.
Zeus is not from saturn, he is jupiter that's why
he's the king of all sheep/jews/ewes. fake jew
kike amalekites don't even know what the word
jewish means. fake jews are goats, choose them
and you will get fucked.

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Jesus was a Judean by birth you fucking tard

My cray mode theory is that he was a Celt. Let's look at the names for Celtic settlements. Gaul, Galicia, Galatia... Galilea? It's also relatively next to Galatia. So... could it be?

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>Literally a direct descendant of David, the most famous king of the jews, and also Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Reuben etc.

Regardless of the region he was born in, It depends on which "Jewish" you're talking about. "Jew" in the Bible was short for Judean which simply meant person from the region of Judea; it was like calling someone greek. This is why Christians from early times were still called "Jews".

The modern term "Jew" now refers to practitioners of Judaism which per the Encyclopedia Judaica's (the definitive kike book) is defined as "entirely pharisaical"; in the time of Jesus, the pharisees were 1 of 3 groups vying for power and Jesus was absolutely opposed to them. Calling Jesus a "Jew" in the respect is blatantly false.

The problem is that retards, athiests, pagans, and even evangelicals don't take the time to understand that words change (or in this case are purposefully changed) with time.

This

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King OF the jews, not king jew.

So if a black baby is born in USA does that mean it isnt black? Because black people come from Africa hurr durr

Judean is a nationality not an ethnicity, race or religious affiliation.
Jesus was born a Nazarene, a Galilean and a Judahite.
He was not a Judean.
Nazareth was a city in the Roman State of Galilee under Herod Antipas the appointed Edomite Tetrarch who was born in Samaria.
Judahites were the descendants of the tribes of Judah and Benjamin remaining loyal to the House of David.

no

Yeah that's why we get free land from the see.

Joseph and Mary were both Jews, retard.

y tho?

While I am of your position... you do realize Joseph wasn't his real father right?

The ACTUAL word used in the Bible for "Jew" is Idumaean which is translated Judean (citizen of the Kingdom of Judah) and since 1850ish as Jew.
but what does the word Idumaean actually mean ? Where can we find it outside of the Bible ?
Well King Herod,
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herod_the_Great
was the King of the "Jews" during the life of Christ and had a father named,
Antipater the Idumaean
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipater_the_Idumaean

So what does Idumaean mean ?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idumaean

It means Edomite.. Just like Wikipedia says.
That's why Jesus said to them that they are not of Abraham and they are those who calls themselves Judean but are not but are the synagogue of Satan.

“Jews began to call themselves Hebrews and Israelites in 1860 —Encyclopedia Judaica 1971 Vol 10:23

Under the heading of “A brief History of the Terms for Jew” in the 1980 Jewish Almanac is the following: “Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an Ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew.” (1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3)

The Jewish religion is from the Pharisees. The Talmud is the most important member of that literature. Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, Volume 8, page 474

EDOM IS MODERN JEWRY." The Jewish Ency. 1925 Ed., Vol. 5, Pg. 41

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>Jews are from Judea. Jesus was from Galilee

No. Jesus was from Judea and Dr Who was from Galilee.

Jesus was a Torah versed circumcised passover celebrating Jew

You fat mormon fuck do you even know who Mary’s parents are.

he was literally a rabbi

>"this is false, only some non believers do."
>discrediting biblical scholarship
stopped reading right there

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Matthew's is Josephs genealogy.
Luke's is Mary's. Mary's ancestry is given in her husband's name.
The original Greek merely says Joseph was "of Heli" or Eli (verse 23). In fact, since Joseph's father is said to be Jacob in Matthew 1:16, Heli is most probably Mary's father. Joseph, then, is his son-in-law.

Good posts ian smith. Also on page 666 of the jewish encyclopedia.

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Jesus wasn't even a real person, you Jewish cocksucker

>pic related

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Well how could Joseph's father be both Jacob and Heli ?
Answer: It couldn't.

This image is slightly wrong. For some reason it has the path to David being different when that is not disputed in the text.

not many historians deny a historical Jesus

>not many historians deny a historical Jesus
How would you know? You haven't read a single academic history journal in your life

And he also called YHWH the devil in the book of John. His stance couldn't be more clear.

it's true though

No he didn't.

Not many people know that the Talmud is actually in the Bible. It's called the Teachings of the Elders.
Herod killed John Hyracanus, the last Judahite King and then they kicked out all the Judahites from the Temple.
Herod brought in a High priest from Babylon and only Edomites could become Pharisees and Sadducee.
The Teachings of the Elders that the Judahites had used was stripped bare and replaced with teachings from Babylon and from this we have the Babylonian Talmud which Edomites have used since that time. Otherwise known as Jews. Then Jesus was born and Herod the King of the Jews had him killed because he said he was God and he called them out as non Judahites and usurpers of the religion of Israel.
John 8:33 is the wake up pill

"They (The Pharasiees) answered him, "We are Abraham's descendants and have never been slaves of anyone. How can you say that we shall be set free?"

See they are not Judahites (Tribe of Judah) or Isrealites (The Lost 10 Tribes) or Hebrews (the original 12 tribes of Isreal/Judah).
Jesus tricked them into telling the truth.

"We have NEVER been slaves." The Edomites were never slaves. The Hebrews were.
in a little place we may of heard of, Egypt..

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