What's wrong with centrists?

>Hi, I'm a centrist. I have no strong opinions of my own. I get my views from the state-endorsed education system and mass media. Please pray for Israel.

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I haven't decided where I stand yet, I'm just asking a question

Depends on why you're a centrist. If you express no political opinions because you never want to rock the boat, then yeah you'll get hated on for being a worm.

The left-right axis is an artifact of 2-party systems, there's nothing wrong with choosing not to cast your lot with either side.

2-party rule is better than 1-party rule, but we can and should do better.

Centrists don’t base their opinions on logic or principle, they just make political agreements based on what’s most strategic or what makes them feel the best(emotionally)

Case in point: He strawmans centrists because he wants to lump together all of his enemies in one sweep. I.E, Jews, Zionists, centrists, etc.

He ignores the fact that centrism does not mean blind obedience to mainstream media and Israel.

You confuse corrupt politicians with the real idea of centrism. That is, pragmatism and rationalism.

that's alright, at least you figured it out before you left high school and got out into the real world! otherwise that could have been REALLY embarassing...

It means you don't stand for anything, which, is fine at a certain stage of your life. It's ok, many people are arrogant not only about their opinions but about the fact they have invested so much to "earn" those opinions. Those people are generally IQ 110-120. Really intelligent people grant freedom to newfags aka centrists and trust that the Truth and Christ is something you'll eventually come to. Of course that last part, the C-word, really scares the fuck out of not only the joox but those stuck in self styled racial paganism which is an absolutely retarded point of view that is essentially a circle jerk. Let me save you some time: investigate Orthodox Christianity. Read Fr. Seraphim Rose. Read. Elder Sophrony. Read Christ the Eternal Tao by Fr. Damascene. You'll skip right to the front of the class. Politics is down stream from culture and culture is downstream from Christ and the entire western world is the keepsake of Christ's early followers. Racial paganists are mostly larpers and it's also a jewish psyop, just like the hippies.

Be blessed user, I can tell you have pure intentions.

It's the most mainstream and tired take of them all, kek. And it's also the reason the world is going as it is, because everyone is a passive idiot so the 'extremists' just rule the waters and the centrists simply follow.

There's nothing brainlet about ''if you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything''. It's just how things are. You think centrists control the world at the moment? Nah. It's just a keyword for 'please let me be I don't really want to deal with shit', which is obviously accepted by whatever side has the upper hand, since centrists make good goys.

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It’s political fence sitting, if you believe in principles, those principles apply universally, that goes for communists as well as libertarians. Either you believe in property rights or you don’t for example. Principles matter, being pragmatic just causes more issues down the road and most of the time involves a lot of lies. Pragmatism is basically expert level bandaiding with a touch of political bullshit.

It's nothing wrong being centrist/moderate.

You just don't follow a hive mind way of thinking and would rather just soak up all aspects of a issue and dissect the information before deciding. Left or right issues is tribalism and only third world shitholes have tribes

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Stop! You sound like the left and the right at the same time and it sounds too real

Don’t worry britbro there is nothing wrong of being a centrist being, it actually has his advantages. You are the easiest to adapt by any radical political change which means that in the long run you will always be the one with the most profit since you won’t be affected by any political agenda. Just remember socialism is a Jew trick, communism is the real enemy of mankind desu

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They tend to eat too much ass

>He ignores the fact that centrism does not mean blind obedience to mainstream media and Israel.

So centrism is /ourideology/

I don't especially hate centrists but why be any "ist"? How is a centrist less susceptible to ideological indoctrination?

If you think with your own head and at the same time use logic you cannot possibly be either left/right in economic scale or conservative/liberal in social scale, but there has to be some sort of consensus, hence centrist (left or right leaning).
A coin always has two sides, only people who never turn it around aren't able to see that.

Pfff Just imagen a centrist pol, what a boring place, it sounds like redit

Ah yes this to newfag, centrist are usually pretty boring desu

pishposh! Plebbit is a progressive leftist online dystopia made to make kids gay traps

>centrists
>more division

keep getting hooked into Jewish divionary tactics.

Pragmatists would, if they were honest, almost always very conservatism. It is morr pragmatic to maintain a status quo than to change things., generally speaking. It's more pragmatic for example to say "minimum wage is a bad idea for all these reasons plus, setting it up will be cost ineffective and require a lot of oversight."

Problem is, pragmatists and "centrists" aren't honest. They're soft wimps. You know that, just adding more to the thread.

For example, what's more pragmatic:
Assimilation
Or
"Mosaic" like in Canada?
Assimilation is obviously more pragmatic. But centrists anf pragmatists would never declare this as they would risk being ostracized. Same concept with official languages, and many other issues.

People who claim to be centrists ultimately always side left but they say they are "center" so people on the right will give them a chance.

>It’s political fence sitting, if you believe in principles, those principles apply universally

The principle being adhered to by centrists is logical rigor and correctness.

>Either you believe in property rights or you don’t for example.

You can believe in property rights while adhering to logic. Property rights are important because it prevents the idea or object in question from being vulnerable to theft, thereby disincentivizing economic activity as well as reducing living standards for the person or people in question. However, if your land is in the way of an important infrastructure project for example, it is completely reasonable to be compensated according to market value (therefore benefiting you) for your property in exchange for the rest of society to benefit as well.

>being pragmatic just causes more issues down the road and most of the time involves a lot of lies.
Only when corrupt politicians pretend to be pragmatic. The same problem arises when politicians pretend to have principles and then renege on them. "Read my lips, no new taxes".

>Pragmatism is basically expert level bandaiding with a touch of political bullshit.

If you're not willing to put in the time and effort to consider the consequences and logic of your actions, you're effectively a one-move-ahead pawn just asking to be manipulated.

Logically thinking about a problem is conservative, not centrist. Centrism is a leftism pretending to care about what conservatives have to say and then always choosing the "liberal" option because it feels good and fewer people disagree with it.

It’s a common argument that the left uses, so understand that I’m cringing while typing this, but centrism stems from a sense of apathy. One side in politics, the right, has eons of historical precedent, and is proven to generate successful and enduring societies. Leftism isn’t just “a different set of opinions,” it’s literal nonsense garbage cooked up by Jews and enforced by its braindead adherents. Centrism attempts to equivocate between the two, because centrism isn’t concerned about the truth, only about mass appeal and being inoffensive, sanitized, and meaningless. It’s the same reason people hate lazy humor and fan service in entertainment. It’s lazy, it’s middling, and is utterly base and lacking in any form of substance. Non-braindead people are just naturally going to be displeased by the existence of insipid trash.

> It is morr pragmatic to maintain a status quo than to change things., generally speaking. It's more pragmatic for example to say "minimum wage is a bad idea for all these reasons plus, setting it up will be cost ineffective and require a lot of oversight."

Wow, way to project. Minimum wage was required exactly because employers were screwing employees over to the point where they couldn't even live off the company tokens usable only in company towns, resulting in mass strikes, riots, and lynching of business owners by their workers. China-level sweatshops were the norm in America until the minimum wage was introduced, and even afterwards in the 1950s, the US still managed to have the largest economy in the world. You're buying into the neocon idea that giving businesses everything they want will boost the economy, when several decades of those policies have failed to cause a boom or reduction in the deficit as promised.

Bisexuals of politics.

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>Assimilation is obviously more pragmatic. But centrists anf pragmatists would never declare this as they would risk being ostracized. Same concept with official languages, and many other issues.

Yes, assimilation was the norm and worked up until very recently. Why do you think it's centrists who are to blame for the shift away? The people advocating against assimilation are not centrists.

>People who claim to be centrists ultimately always side left but they say they are "center" so people on the right will give them a chance.

Evaluate the policies without the modern political compass labeling everything and you'll have a better time deciding what benefits who.

>square root of 2 is rational, since all numbers are rational!
>square root of 2 is irrational, since we can prove a contradiction! One of us is surely making a mistake!
>HEY GUYS HOW ABOUT YOU GUYS COMPROMISE
>WHY IS RATIONAL EVEN AN ISSUE? STOP CARING SO MUCH ABOUT IT
>ALSO, I'M SUPERIOR FOR NOT HOLDING SUCH EXTREME OPINIONS
I wonder.

>political opinions are mathematical facts
Retards like you are why I'm glad I didn't fall for the tribalism meme

this
>square root of 2 is rational, since all numbers are rational!

is disproven by

>If it were rational, it could be expressed as a fraction a/b in lowest terms, where a and b are integers, at least one of which is odd. But if a/b = √2, then a2 = 2b2. Therefore, a2 must be even. Because the square of an odd number is odd, that in turn implies that a is even. This means that b must be odd because a/b is in lowest terms.

>On the other hand, if a is even, then a2 is a multiple of 4. If a2 is a multiple of 4 and a2 = 2b2, then 2b2 is a multiple of 4, and therefore b2 is even, and so is b.

>So b is odd and even, a contradiction. Therefore, the initial assumption—that √2 can be expressed as a fraction—must be false.

which proves

>square root of 2 is irrational, since we can prove a contradiction!

So there's a clear chain of reasoning and logic as to who is correct and which theory is the most applicable.

note, I was lazy and didn't transcribe the powers, so if you actually care about the proof go look it up

Case in point ----->

As opposed to extremism where people would refuse to accept that the other side had any possibility of being correct while adhering blindly to their "principle" of assuming that sqrt(2) is either rational or irrational just because.

Classical liberalism is highly logical. Unfortunately it is thrown under the bus nowadays.

That's a moderate not a centrist you fucking retard

>You can believe in property rights while adhering to logic
If you say, "I believe in property rights...but-" then you don't actually believe in property rights.

Hello 90 IQ

Centrists are useful idiots, just a little less useful than leftists.

"Believe" as in acknowledge their importance.
Not "Believe" as in placing blind faith into.

Centrists have no meaningful opinions about anything. You can't be a centrist on race, the Jews, etc

It's a meme. Doesn't exist.

I want ethnic homogeneity. That makes me a far right nazi racist.

You're desperately trying to label your ideologistic point of view which is the opposite of logic.
>Logically thinking about a problem is conservative
There's nothing logical about conserving certain point of view. Logic cares nothing about ideologies, the only way to think logically is to abandon them (ideologies that is) and more you apply logic, more you are able to see that extremes are far away from logic.
TL;DR: you couldn't be more wrong

Because the enemy isn't a centrist

a centrist is just a radical extremist who supports the status quo

Not an argument, retard.

You enable the enemy. And most likely a cuck... Your reality enables cuckery. Grow some nuts and stand for something.

>hot take: the vast majority of the world are centrists
the vast majority of the world is retarded though, that's a terrible argument. Only a fraction of the population is even remotely informed on the issues, those that are don't tend to be centrists.

faggot

Does acknowledging the undeniable truth of racial difference while holding moderate economic views make me a centrist ? A lot of people here seems to think centrists have no convictions but I beg to differ ( if I qualify as one )

Nothing. Centrists are based and redpilled. When the day of the rope comes, political extremists will be the first to hang.

Both sides of extremism hate centrism because its an attempt to prioritise rationality and compromise over each respective extreme view.
Like saying that white people should have their own nations but not that white people deserve to genocide people to get it.

>the right, has eons of historical precedent, and is proven to generate successful and enduring societies
The right-wing literally created communism though, China and Russia practiced the private ownership of human beings up until the early 19th century, they were so overdosed on rightism they rubberbanded and went far-left wing becoming the equal and opposite evil. Every communist/socialist country on earth, previously had a radically far-right wing form of government that spawned wrath and outrage from peasents resulting in genocide. Every first world country on earth, has always been centrist.

>the right, has eons of historical precedent, and is proven to generate successful and enduring societies
The right-wing literally created communism though, China and Russia practiced the private ownership of human beings up until the early 19th century, they were so overdosed on rightism they rubberbanded and went far-left wing becoming the equal and opposite evil. Every communist/socialist country on earth, previously had a radically far-right wing form of government that spawned wrath and outrage from peasents resulting in genocide. Every first world country on earth, has always been centrist.

>deserve
Gay. The reasonable question is whether genocide is practical. It's not. Memes about genocide very much are practical. It allows us to "compromise" and only expel all the Jews instead of gassing them like we were totally gonna do because we think that's practical.

NO Glory or risk in being a centrist, user.
I want to truly be alive. I want to murder my enemies (Does it even matter who they are?)
I want celebrate with my frens over the corpse of my enemies. (Does it matter who they are?) I want raise a toast to those we've lost. There memories will live on longer than those who made it through the war. I want to risk it all for glory. I want live a life that is part of a grand narrative. I want feel truly alive because I've seen death, both beside me and in front of me. I want women to jump my bones because I've killed for their safety. (Which is why we had baby boom.) I want to feel I truly deserve her love and devotion because I have proven myself worthy of it.

Good news we have a true enemy in the jew and the Muslim, we don't need to invent one. They are both far more evil than one we could create.

fuck you and all centrists. You are full of bull shit it's boring and its unimaginative. Ultimately, it's unsatisfying.

Here this is a centrist libertarian who has really has studied what far right wing and far left wing are all about. I have probably the best part of his right wing explanation qued up. But the whole interview is worth watching. He really start my path NatSoc from center libertarian right.

youtu.be/WZlSn5GSV2U?t=2110

Also, want to point out that the white race would near extinction today if it weren't for Madison and WWII. As would the Japanese. And this is what Jeffrey Tucker fails to understand. The society of the west + japan with out the great war would be a full Wiemar shit whole and that is were liberalism (both classic and modern) leads to.

Not madison, I meant Carl schmitt

im a centrist and think all politics is a joke because its all been so corrupted with corporate interests. and most everyone enables it... ftw

You worship rationality and science and logic and facts and evidence and consider all of them to be part of the same monolith of truth, while everyone else is mired in "blind faith" and other psychological errors. The real situation is that centrism is not a political position or even an ideology, but a psychological profile.