Prove that God exist, or that any paranormal stuff in the Bibble happened, and I will convert

> cosmological argument
> SO JEEBUS TALKED TO A DONKEY AND A SNAKE, HAWT DAMN!!!!
I fell for this weak bait again. Shit.

Where were god during Mesozoic era?

where is he now is the better question lol

Arguments made without evidence can be dismissed outright, sweaty.

>Bibble
Fuck off nigger

You need to clearly define “God” before the question can be addressed. Do you mean Yahweh?

They are perfectly valid arguments. Almost everything you believe is based on such arguments.

probably killing some niggers in Africa or demolishing some people in Sri Lanka.

You make the counterclaim, YOU have to prove evidence God does not exist, fag.

Like the argument that God doesn't exist SWEETIE . I thought atheist were big brained but nope can't even pass a grade 3 spelling test

God is. There are not arguments that can work on an obstinate reprobate. You simply are not written in the book of life.

You cannot prove nor disprove the existence of a God faggot so you're argument is irrelevant

idk any god or conception of him that doesnt boil down to something we already have a word for, mainly the abrahamic god of the bible but anything goes really

imagine being literally all powerful accross an infinite universe, biliions of billions of billions of planets and you re fucking with the sri lankans
sad!

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wrong agnostics are the intellectual equivalent of cucks

hand or gtfo

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>no I don’t have to justify my beliefs, everyone else has to prove them wrong
yikes

if cucks= someone who only states facts as truth and not like their super edgy opinions I guess we are.

there s a reason christianity is STRONGLY corrolated with very low iq

the exact same argument could be used against you moron

Prove Princess Celestia doesn't exist.

Bluepilled people won't be allowed in Equestria and will be turned into parasprites

agnostics
>ah ah I guess u dont have proof eh?
>but I m too much of a brainlet to understand logic or reality
>I ll just chose a logic paradox as my final stance plz dont hit me

wrong
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religiosity_and_intelligence
A global study on educational attainment found that Jews, Christians, religiously unaffiliated persons, and Buddhists have, on average, higher levels of education than the global average.[12] Numerous factors affect both educational attainment and religiosity.

>you can’t get something from nothing
>there was nothing, then there was “God”
Imagine believing this
>What is burden of proof

based

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>say flying multicolored polkadotted rhinos exist
>someone says it’s bullshit
>”prove that they don’t exist then, nerd”
the absolute state of christkikes

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it can’t, because I haven’t even professed a belief let alone asked everyone else to disprove it for me, but thanks for the weird, hostile projection

ah see now you just shifted the goal post to "education"
you cant be dishonest on a message board, everyone can see the previous posts :)

Acknowledging your limits as a very tiny biological creature in a seemingly infinite universe is not a paradox it is the reality of the situation. You are not as smart as you think you are

How do you prove God exists? It's an unfalsifiable claim.

I cant prove anything in the past. But what you can do, op, is pursue the occult. When wired unnatural shit starts happening you'll know you're on the right(wrong?) Track

Why should we?

Wrong you have, you professed the belief that you know for certain the creation of the universe was not done by intelligent life, in before burden of proof though I WIN HUEHUEHUE

Education correlates with IQ higher levels of IQ are required to obtain higher levels of education

>But what you can do, op, is pursue the occult.
ok show me

right here right now give me all the knowledge I need

I mean there isnt a field on earth that is not bullshit that you couldnt explain through text on the internet so surely...

>Why should we?
>Why?to prove everyone you re not mentally ill coping retards, who know deep down that they are wrong but are scared of death for some reason?

Based
shit on you thread

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is that a cheetah tongue?

God is not an empirical reality, it is an inward experience which is first discovered within interior self. Upon prayer, meditation, abstinence and constant selfless devotion one will be united with an understanding of God internally -- which coincidentally will give rise to the understanding that God is everything externally as well. As Hereclitus said, "the nature of God is to remain concealed." Only by acts of total discipline and devotion can anyone hope to obtain a higher, illumined consciencness

>As Cletus said
dropped

>you professed the belief that you know for certain the creation of the universe was not done by intelligent life
show me where I did this.

pic in the op...

>Angry NPC noises
Get back to us when you debunked the cosmological arguments.
Also a-biogenesis evolution is utterly retarded

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>Get back to us when you debunked the cosmological arguments.
nah you get back to us when you layed out the cosmological arguments

Why the FUCK haven't you joined this server yet?
discord.link/pRkMu23

I-9dz

>also your ape tier meme
>Why?
because its full of revulsing fantastical shit that voids it of any credibility?

if people turn into salt in your book how can anyone trust the rest isnt as looney?

You didn't confront anything I suggested OP. This goes to show what truly religious people have said about skeptics over the years is true--- that even if you suggest a method of understanding for them they'll never pursue it. Even if some bonafid paranormal experience occured before you, you would never believe it.... What's the point?

>discord
no thanks I m straight

Well I have a different definition of God than, if your definition only pertains to the known man-made religions fine....

>Prove something to me
>Ok Heres some solid groundwork for our reaso-
>NO SPOON FEED ME I WONT ACCEPT ANY OF YOUR ARGUMENTS! I WONT EVEN CONSIDER THEM!
Yeah ok retard
Yeah and you believe nothing sprang into existence and life came from rock juice.
You like ridiculing theist but you believe in equally if not more retarded shit.
>But my man in a lab coat said its real!
Literally no better than a raging Muslim
I kek a thy sir.

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>Imagine believing this
God always existed. If God created the Universe, then God existed before time was ever conceived. Since God operates out of the natural laws of the Universe, time is not applicable to him.

Spotted the (((french)))

Saying that there is no God violates the Laws of Physics. Newton's Third Law states that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. What created the Universe then? How did the Big Bang occur if some force didn't exert itself to cause such an event?

Bring back nigger slavery/10

Piss poor troll bud

I love the NPC pigeon!

>You didn't confront anything I suggested OP.
and why didnt I do that one may ask?
well lets go back and discover why dont we

your first sentence is>God is not an empirical reality
so right of the get go when I ask you to prove me god is real the first world you say is that god isnt part of reality
I mean

>it is an inward experience which is first discovered within interior self.
>Upon prayer, meditation, abstinence and constant selfless devotion one will be united with an understanding of God internally
ok now how would you go about convincing me that what you described as self inflicted psychotic delusion is infact NOT just self inflicted psychotic delusion

>which coincidentally will give rise to the understanding that God is everything externally as well.
yeah ok I m sure one you re that deep into insanity then you d start to believe that that local insane belief is everywhere and affects everything, its a pretty recurent theme with schizos

I mean you re telling me that if you try hard enough you can convience yourself you can feel him and believe in him but you havent given me any argument yet, or any objective proof

>As Hereclitus said,
heheh sounds like cletus

>"the nature of God is to remain concealed."
ok but how conceiled
does he answer prayers?
does he listen to them?
does he do miracles?
is he watching?

you do realize that you can detect anything that interracts right
and you do realize that its an undeniable mathematical principle that you cannot observe a thing without interraction right
and you do realize that un interraction on that scale is the literal definition of non existence right?

>if you give total devotion to believing god exist you will believe god exists

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the universe had a beginning from nothing
that beginning had a process that went from nothing to a universe
when the universe decays into nothing, the conditions that led to the creation of the universe (nothing) will be met
lets say for the sake of argument that in a universe that was made after this one an animal with your exact DNA is born.
in order to create that animal it needs parents that are extremely similar if not the same as your parents.
we know that both temperament and beliefs (political and otherwise) are to a degree heritable.
this means that these parents would raise this child in an extremely similar manner if not the exact same way as you were raised.
so if it has the same up-bringing, the same beliefs and the same DNA then it is essentially another you.
>TL;DR
reincarnation exists and jew worshipers are still wrong

Try harder nigger

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Is there anything else you can say besides bragging about your dick?? Or is that the limit of a black mans brain capacity?

>if I put 20 assumptions together, more than half of them veriably false it will prove something its even better if I use broken language/bad translations
ok

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nothing caused x to occur is an illogical statement by the very science you atheist types love to suck off 24/7.

The Universe can't come from nothing.

>the universe had a beginning from nothing
we literally dont know that
we had no idea what was there before the expansion because any data from that time is so fucking mixed with noise it is undecipherable

your first &assumption is wrong so I technically dont even need to read the rest

>that beginning had a process that went from nothing to a universe
ok you just paraphrased the first wrong assumption

>when the universe decays into nothing, the conditions that led to the creation of the universe (nothing) will be met

ok i m done here

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>Arguments that have been thought about and argued for thousands of years, refined by the greatest minds of Christendom, scrutinized for hundreds of years yet still can't be debunked because they operate on reason and logic.

>Some French retard without reading comprehension can't understand it
Welp guys time to pack it up, I'm a atheist now!
Yay I fucking love science!

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Prove that black holes are real. Science magazines and papers don't count.

>Arguments that have been thought about and argued for thousands of years, refined by the greatest minds of Christendom

>the greatest minds of Christendom

so your only argument agaisnt the reality that those are squabbled nonsence is an argument of authority
from the fucking "greatest minds of Christendom"

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>Science magazines and papers don't count.
science magazines usually do that thing called LINKING THE FUCKING STUDY
and the study doesnt that detail called CITING ITS ENTIRE METHODOLOGY, WITH EVERYTHING IT DID STEP BY STEP WHILE GIVING THE RESULTS IT FOUND AT EVERY STEP, SO THAT THE STUDY IS REPRODUCABLE

but yeah thats worth a book written by rabbis translated in broken english

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That's not what he said and you are honestly the most annoying fuckin type of atheist on the planet, do you sniff your own farts user?

I mean It depends, I know some religious people who are nice and debate, I even am close to a person that used to be Christian but is more liberal about it.
Most religious people are just idiots that believe god did everything and that I hail Satan for wearing certain clothes or listening to certain music.Lol

the universal laws that prevent things from spontaneously appearing could not exist before the universe.

Why don't you pray to God instead of asking us?

I m not even an atheist, I m just an anti christian militant
its a rather straight forward concept really

>before the universe.
why do you keep saying that no one knows if there was a before

can you fuck off and go do that?
I mean you re not really proving what I asked in the op now are you?

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the only reason that there would be no before the universe would be because there is no time (or any other universal laws) with out the laws of the universe, things can simply begin existing without cause.

how can i know if they are not bullshitting?
i can claim to have super high tech glasses which allow me to see atoms.

>the only reason that there would be no before the universe would be because there is no time
yeah but how do you know there was no time before the big bang/ expansion?
we have no point in the universe where time didnt apply, at some point it ran very slowly but it always ran

You don’t need to prove that it’s true. Society would collapse if people didn’t believe in god. It’s true in my heart and that’s all that matters.

Jesus never talks to a donkey and snake in the gospels

THIS! We should crusade these insufferable atheists

that's definitely purely speculative

well unless I can gain access to those super high tech glasses I m technically entitled to claim bullshit

but anyone can gain access to any lab equipment with enough funding, if you think anything in published papers is bs, get the equipement they did the study with, do the exact same step by step they say they did, record your findings, no one stops you

>It’s true in my heart and that’s all that matters.
>it was real in my mind

christians are literally worse than jews

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>It’s true in my heart and that’s all that matters.
the absolute state of christcucks

>yeah but how do you know there was no time before the big bang/ expansion?
time is fundamentally tied to space. there had to have been a point where space did not exist and so time could not have existed

this

>The only epistemology that is valid is positivist.

>kill anyone who tries to find truth and points out we re a bunch of filthy dishonest liers!
>like we ve been doing the past thousand year dark age!
>burn him to the stakes he said something true!
>oh wait fuck all christians would get slaughtered if they trieddoing that today

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>when he figures out he can't prove his side either

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>. there had to have been a point where space did not exist and so time could not have existed
WHO EVER SAID THERE WAS AT SOME POINT NO SPACE
WHERE
WHO
WHO SAID THAT
WHERE

you believe the universe just always existed?

Because it is clearly made up

The entire universe follows a temperature gradient that is aligned with our solar system when it should be random. 3 seperate satellites eith different equipment made the same findings. We are at the center of the universe and special. Therefore, we are created and there is a creator.
www-personal.umich.edu/~huterer/PRESS/CMB_Huterer.pdf
This source is before the final satellite confirmed it in 2015. It was then buried by (((them))) but that’s a different post

Pic somewhat related: It’s what happened when we found everything expanding away from us relative to distance in the 1920s. Not related to temperature in above research

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lol you don’t even know what my “side” is because you’re illiterate

I mean either that either we dont know

all we know is that at some point everything in the observable universe was backed as densely as the inside of a star ( a lot more technically)
we dont know what was before that, we can speculate but we dont know
we dont know how the universe was before that time