So, this seems like a pretty major win for the cause. Why aren't we talking about it more? Details - >Supreme Court hearing arguments for citizenship question on the 2020 U.S. census >Citizenship question will lead to millions of people, legal and non-legal, to not answer the census because of fears of retribution for lying on form >This will lead to a massive decline in numbers from states like California, Texas, New York, Arizona, etc. where there are large populations of illegal immigrants >This means hundreds of billions of dollars not being allocated to these states as part of federal aide, and, perhaps most importantly, a loss of electoral college votes and House representatives for the next 10 years
Is there any particular reason not to be happy about this? The judges are looking to be 5-4 decided on the matter, with the majority on the side of allowing the question to be put on the census.
4 steps: >Martial Law declared >US Military deployed to expel illegal aliens >Niggers transported to Africa en-mass >Christianity made state religion: outlaw circumcision, kosher/halal food, close mosques and synagogues.
Jackson Jackson
>Christianity made state religion: outlaw circumcision, kosher/halal food, close mosques and synagogues. I would support this.
Carter Garcia
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Blake Long
Depends on the ruling. I'm not sure what they will say, even though the court is slightly right leaning. Kavanaugh is so far voting like a neocon that he is. I'm sure the ruling will be discussed here. If they rule FOR the citizenship question(as they fucking shpul) then it may get really interesting. Cali will lose 1, possibly 2 EC votes. Texas? Maybe 1 AZ may surprise us because a lot of Californians move there...on the other hand a lot of them move to Texas as well so I'm not sure. I will be really interested in the results of the census. Unfortunately it won't affect the 2020 elections.
>Unfortunately it won't affect the 2020 elections.
How's that?
Isaiah Myers
it's incredibly important, user. which is exactly why Jow Forums isn't talking about it. Jow Forums is more interested in muh 86th palestine happening or blacked threads
William Bennett
Get the fuck out of here, shill. Nobody gives a shit about your pathetic attempts to derail the thread
Seriously, fuck off. This is a thread about the census.
Ian Fisher
Almost certainly wouldn't be finished in time
Jason Thomas
Now when I did some research about it it just might. It will come on April 2020 so I thought it won't change EC count for the November's elections because there will be not enough time but I was wrong. Which way will it go will be interesting to see. Some states will matter more than other but arguably all of these states are now Blue then they were 4 years ago. I wish that the illegal's count changed the possibility of the election fraud but it won't. My biggest worry is Texas going Blue in a decade or so, and even if Texas loses a vote or 2(which I think it won't) it won't change a disastrous EC map. I'm also waiting to see the results of the census to solidify my opinion on the EC. If the fuckers manage to redraw the districts even more in the favor of the Democrats, the right wing my be better off also wanting abolished EC.
Bentley Moore
Every article I read has a panicking tone regarding its effects on the 2020 election. I know they're fake news and all, but their fear points to a realistic effect of the census come next year. Am I wrong in thinking this? How long do censuses usually take to make final counts and changes to the elective process?
Jeremiah Sullivan
All proud blue state residents should resist this racist, white nationalist Census! #skipthecensus #dontcountme #notacitizenoftrumpsamerica
Carson Nelson
>If the fuckers manage to redraw the districts even more in the favor of the Democrats, the right wing my be better off also wanting abolished EC.
How could this even be possible? If we get rid of the EC every R-leaning state's vote wouldn't matter even a little.
Elijah Long
kek excellent. None of this shit would be possible without trump getting elected. As much as he sucks israeli cock him getting a scotus judge was pretty awesome
Tyler Morgan
After I did some reading it just might. So the question is still open. I would prefer it didn't because 2020 is much less important than 2024. Still extremely important, just 2024 will be potentially much more important for our future. In my opinion 2020 will be a Republican and Trump's win. I don't even doubt it. 2024 on the other hand may let us actually choose another Republican(Reagan, Reagan, Bush). Obviously that's pretty unlikely but possible. And may actually help this country for generations.
Pretty based. Trump deservedly gets a lot of shit from the far right, but appointing supreme court justices is literally the most important power a president has and he did a good job with it.
Ian Sullivan
Obviously a democracy is a shit idea and that would be a last resort move but think about it: the majority of this country is actually more right wing than what the TV and all the fake news are telling us. The small batshit crazy very vocal minority leftiest make us think that it isn't so, but it doesn't change the fact that this is true. If Texas turns blue then Texas is lost and that means the Republicans have no chances of winning shit. That's a scenario that I'm dreading the most. In this case abolishing EC is in our interest because the red states are majority conservative and that popular vote would count. It would all require getting Republicans and the right leaning middle to vote much more than now (and the right sucks if it comes to grassroots movement compared to the left) but it would be doable. This is of course my opinion and I need to do some more reading before I'm 100% sure(like go through all the elections for the past 20 or so years to see the results of the popular vote) but so far I think that wouldn't be as bad as we think. Also the one condition that we are for abolishing EC is mandatory federal voter ID. Unfortunately that would suck, but possibly less then just letting the Democrats run this country forever.
Joseph Russell
>Covering up RBG's death >Roberts will cuck and strike it down it will be a loss
Gabriel White
please educate me on why illegals and non-residents are allowed to VOTE IN THE COUNTRY THEY ARE CURRENTLY IN?
Ryan Anderson
I'm not sure what you are asking? Why are they allowed to vote in the US? Technically they are not allowed, in practice we all know what happens. The Democrats are very good at using everything they can, legal and illegal, to get what they want. They build a power structures and have very well organized and cult-like grassroots movements in their footholds. This allows them to push the lie that the fraud during the elections is nothing to be concerned with. Obviously the complete and blind support of the brainwashed media is their biggest asset. AOC is a prime example of the US public education and is an example who exactly does the D party create to support its power.
Thomas Sanchez
It's another bunch of shit. They can only stop it by claiming Ross violated the law by the way he went about doing it which is true he's a fucking idiot out of his depth like everyone in Trump's cabinet but even if the allow the question to be asked it's not changing anything in the long run
Jaxson Kelly
They lying mass media cries out in pain as it strikes you.
Jaxon Martin
Bump
Justin Diaz
>FUCKING RACISTS HOW DARE YOU WANT ONLY CITIZENS TO BE COUNTED
Literally what the fuck is wrong with these people
Circumcision is a vital christian rite. I had bith my sons circumscised because Gen. 17 lays it out as part of mans pact with God. No man who is uncircumcised can enter heaven.anyone who fualt to cut off their fkreskin will burn in hell forever
Aaron Mitchell
>population is so saturated with illegal migrants that not including them can lead to a massive undercount >first reaction from these states is "don't take away our money and power" >this does raise massive red flags in the general populace At least the new judges might be able to clinch this
>being this new Lurk for at least 2 years before posting again faggot.
Jace Ward
This would work if you could get it trending on twitter.
Joseph Moore
Do you wear cloth of mixed fiber? Ever fucked your wife on her period? Circumcision is the plight of foolishness. I imagine you are baiting - well done.
As to the question on the census - I bet Roberts pussies out, that hack
>>Robert's pussies out And Kavanaugh votes like the neocon that he is.
Jose Hernandez
We'll see if the chief justice fucks the country again.
Colton Morris
Roberts has already basically said he'll vote for it. Has he been positive towards a decision then suddenly gone against it last minute before? Democrats are extremely organized and know how to shuffle people around on the ground level to get the results they want. This is because they're funded and trained by foreign nationals who know that local politics can have strong effects on national politics in the long run.
Caleb Wood
Oh but they will count the illegals and the permanent residents as well. We will just have to multiply it by, probably, 4 and we will have an estimate of how many of them there are.
Asher Long
Actually a great idea
Benjamin Barnes
>asking people about their legal status in a census how horrific
Connor Hill
>>Democrats are extremely organized This. They realized in the 60's with the help of KGB how important it is to stuff the local politics with their people. Republicans really need to stop concentrating on only state wide and federal elections and realize that the school board also fucking matters. And the election officials, and the fucking justice of peace posts. The Democrats support their people with money AMD logistics and the Republicans do Jack shit about it and do not care about their little people. That has to change if they want to have any chance in the long run.
DESU at this point the right needs to completely skip any kind of structure, local or national, and start focusing on small grassroots movements like the ones here. Every structures has been structured slowly but surely denigrated to make it as unlikely as possible for a non-conformist to win at anything. Subversive elements like Jow Forums that are attractive to non-conformists lead to memetic victories that can eventually topple established orders. I'm still convinced Jow Forums played a major, major part in '16
Eli Thompson
newfag detected. lurk moar.
David Fisher
Is tee bee ache and senpai still filtered on here? JFC
Jack Hughes
Does anyone know if there was a large change from the numbers 10 years ago when they initially dropped the citizenship question?
Ethan Hall
This was the whole point. The nightmarish shit we would have gotten if Hillary Clinton picked another sotomayor is beyond comprehension. Anybody who wanted to give up that ground is a shill poseur. Trump 2020.
Christopher Thomas
>10 years ago Bro, it was 50 years ago that they dropped the citizenship question. A lot of people in the thread are very down on the chief justice and probably Kavanaugh, so we'll see I guess.
Cameron Torres
Republicans are not a nationalist party and even if they were the globalists have control over the money supply
The system unironically cannot be fixed as it currently is, there needs to be major upheaval or changes to cripple (((Wall Street))) to prevent the (((FED))) from printing more funnymoney and then loaning it to their co-ethnics so they can buy elections.
I think skipping state or national elections is a bad move. Trust me they cam afford the grass movement but they don't do it because it's a hassle. More than that, when a right wing groups were targeted by the IRS the Republicans did fucking nothing to help them. Nothing. And they had the majority. It's like we are dealing with a uniparty, where 1 side is better only because we don't have a third choice. I'm observing the minority conservative movements and so far, because of Trump they are not doing bad, but they could certainly use some, at least, monetary or logistics support from the Republicans. If they do, I'm sure it's nothing like the Antifas of the left get from the D's. This really is sad.
Samuel Allen
Kavanaugh might as well have been Garland He was no Conservative win when dems loose, they win when Reps win, they loose
Owen Bennett
Finish the book nigger, you would not believe what this Jesus fellow ends up doing. There's a whole New Covenant with God, and Judaism is over!
Gavin Hall
>Census is for representatives and allocation of funds for services >Illegals, who shouldn't vote or use public services, should be counted in census
It did. It was worth it too. Despite the endless demoralization I'm proud I helped Trump win. Left can shove all the honkler-yang-miga-Drumf-Trumpwall.jpg-why does everything suck guise? up their mammas pussy hole.
Jace Morgan
How is just asking someone if they are actually American considered "white power" even to the most bergish of greensteins?
Oliver Sanders
the state of newfaggots
Camden Butler
Wrong. You know nothing.
>" As many as desire to make a fair shew in the flesh, they constrain you to be circumcised; only lest they should suffer persecution for the cross of Christ." Galatians 6:12
>" Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing." Galatians 5:2
>" Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision. For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh." Philippians 3:2-3
>" In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:" Colossians 2:11
>" For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God." Romans 2:28-29
Jacob Sullivan
>>the globalist have the control of the money RNC has money, unlike the DNC. So do a lot of the Republican politicians If they were serious about the grassroots they would find the money to fund it. They aren't serious. They let the education go to shit by not openly fighting the teachers unions. They let the very Republican grassroots movements be persecuted while they had the majority They are NOT seriously trying to get any movement started. Not at fucking all. More than that, often they fight against such movements. This isn't a case on the Democrat's side.
Justin Ortiz
>t-thread about the census >is butthurt about christianity being shit on after proposing it as the state religion
It’s not a win for the cause it’s a minor win for the (((Republicans))). The fact that you conflate the two is plebit level logic. That being said, they can just check “yes” and send it in. Maybe some won’t get the word though.
Jason Flores
jews reneged on their deal, so that covenants null and void Christ is the way he died for us so no child genital mutilation required
Thomas Carter
Run as a controlled op dem and sell them out on an important vote at the last second.
Daniel Cruz
That is a start
Camden Campbell
>1 post by this ID Suck my dick, faggot. I understand the frustration with Trump but if this wins out I'll be glad I voted for him, at least. 100% agree. GOP has been just as shit as the DNC since Reagan. I'm hoping we'll see a far right/nationalist movement start getting traction in the party like socialism has infected the DNC.
Carson Lewis
Kitter was assembled inside the 2L bottle, like a boat.
Gabriel Williams
All sacrifices, and circ is one of them, ended. You are not righteous by the law.
Blake Lewis
That would require me going through a very local election cycles and vote with them all the way to the top. Not worth it. Would be a good laugh though. I actually thought about running, but it's not fucking worth it to me. I will get my life destroyed by the D's and the R's and for what? 1 person, even the president, has no chance of changing anything, and as I explained earlier, the Republicans do not support the grassroots.
Sebastian Brooks
They aren't allowed, but they do, and when the census comes up they get counted as if they were citizens, inflating the likes of Commiefornia and Colorado's share of electors beyond what it ought to be.
Ian Thomas
People are down on Kavanaugh because they are Transexuals who want to join the military. You better take every fucking win you can and cede no ground ever. I don't want my nation represented by Sergeant yass qween because Trump didn't put a swastika on his forehead. That blackpill don't do anything shit is cancer man.
Jonathan Scott
The RNC is just one part of the overall GOP funding apparatus. Democrats outspent Republicans in 3 of the last presidential elections and the midterms because (((lenders))) and (((donors))) can afford to take a hit when they'll be reimbursed later down the line.
Trump spent less than 100 million of his own dollars in 2016, and ran a piss-poor donations operation compared to the Democrats. The Republicans are a business party, not a nationalist party. They will never attempt to raise the capital from the common people to crush the Democrats.
Democrats are fully the party of (((bankers))) now, ever since they took over Obama's campaign by donating en mass and made him their little nigger slave in 2008.
The system cannot be fixed by using the established rules of the system. It can only be fixed by creating a new ruleset and making yourself the gamemaster. Otherwise you are just playing someone else's game and will lose.
Aaron Taylor
>AOC is a prime example of the US public education
>AMD >loose
>covfefe >hamberders
There is not a day I spend on Jow Forums wherein I don't feel superior to 90% of you.
inb4 "just typos"
Attention to detail is an indicator of intelligence and aptitude.
t. public school/state university graduate
Hudson Perry
Small grassroots movements like we have here are exactly what turns into national wins, which is why actual conservatives/nationalists/reactionaries need to focus on highly mobile, energetic and technologically adept groups to do their on-the-ground fighting. The problem is, people who have money and power don't want small insurgent groups like Jow Forums to have any power, hence the shilling and psyops we see here constantly.
Dominic Brooks
Because states have control over their own registration processes and states like California, which promote instant registration for everyone with a driver's license and everyone can get a license, refuse to purge the several million illegals because then Cali would swing.
Jaxon Nelson
They should be counted. They shouldn't vote. The 14th amendment is pretty clear about this and makes distinctions between citizens and people (persons).
Kevin Cruz
then i guess the freedom of religion has to go
Zachary Jackson
lol newfag, fuck off back to reddit
Camden Edwards
>>I'm hoping we'll see a far right/nationalist movement start getting traction I'm hoping too, but let's be honest: who would support that? The spineless R's who would bent over backwards to denounce a "nazi movement" amongst them? Because, let's be honest, any kind of right movement, no matter how reasonable is going to be called that. Look at #blexit for example. The fucking left, that knows nothing about them, calls them nazis and white supremacists. Not even joking, a movement that is designed to get the Blacks to vote R is called white supremacists. I'm not a nihilist though and I actually have a faith in the US citizens organizing despite all of these roadblocks. And unfortunately it's up to us to do so, because counting on the Republican politicians is fruitless. For a second there I had hoped that the Libertarian party may actually achieve something, but they are run like a fucking amateur JV team, so I opened my eyes. I think something like the Tea Party ver. 2.0 actually may happen again. And I hope it's going to be soon. We have 5 years left with Trump, that would be an ample time to organize a semi strong movement. People are trying right now. So far due to personal reasons I can't join, but I'm planning to have a busy summer attending meetings and maybe even some protests.
Ethan Hill
>black pill >Trump didn’t put a swastika on his forehead No friend that’s not the blackpill. The fact is that he put a Star of David on his forehead. There is a world of difference there.
Xavier Allen
AMD is pretty clearly a phonefag's autocorrect. Sucking dicks is an indicator of faggotry and being a redditor, go back.
Aaron Fisher
I'm a naturalized citizen of the US and speak 3 languages, also a fucking phoneposter. Pick on some of the arguments that I presented grammar Nazi.
Cooper Nelson
Dream on, 56%.
Cooper Cooper
The point of a census is to determine appropriate representation in government. Illegals aren't entitled to this, so fuck em.
David Bennett
This. Thousand percent agree.
Liam Butler
I think it's ongoing. That's why they're trying so hard to censor people on places like YouTube and Twitter, but it isn't working. There's a bottom-level groundswell of support for farther-right politics, and EVERYONE hates the media. Leftist, centrists, rightists all know they're fake as fuck. We just need to keep working on the subversion of established structures. If that means we need to build our own payment processors and the like then we'll just have to fucking do it.
Luis Green
>I'm a naturalized citizen of the US You can go back too.
Thomas Sullivan
If someone does not return a census...isn't that illegal? Sounds like a good reason to knock on the doors of people who get a Census and don't return it.
Cameron Morales
>Citizenship question will lead to millions of people, legal and non-legal, to not answer Why would legal resident's be afraid to answer? This makes no sense.
It's not illegal to not answer the census, but it IS illegal to lie on the census. If illegals lie on the citizenship question, that gives ICE the warrant to immediately detain and deport them.
Adrian Richardson
Census takers literally go door to door using a list of addresses that did not return. However they are not law enforcement so if you don't answer the door they just report it and move on. Odds are the only time you'll get charged is if you get arrested for something unrelated.
Angel Rodriguez
Agreed. I was always pretty passionate about the politics but was an independent leaning right. Now? I'm a fucking far right mazi if you ask any of my bleeding heart liberal "friends". Also I finally decided to actually getting involved because we, in my opinion, have until 2024 to build something that will outlast the Democratic rule. That's not much time. I was born in a socialistic shithole I'll be dambed if I die in one.
Jacob Parker
SJWs not answering it thinking they're taking a stand for those poor opportunistic illegal immigrants.