Am i the only one who thinks the far-right needs to become more like antifa? Rioting in no go zones...

The police and courts are on antifa's side. You will be thrown in jail and have a liberal judge hand you a maximum sentence for anything they can charge you with.

I did, you haven't and you aren't fooling anyone, Shlomo.

No, we're better than them

Agreed, get out there and organize size with other white nationalists. If you're in the US join Patriot Front or American Identity Movment. There are many groups and many ways we can fight back against the Jews.

This

He's not wrong.

It doesn't work for the right. It doesn't work for the left either, which is why ANTIFA is almost universally hated

Agreed, PF and AIM always do flash demos and postering. By the time they're done antifa cant attack them because they're already gone. No more Charlottesville type stuff, no more playing by the rules of a rigged game.
Keep up the redpills, and get out there and do some IRL action.

Stop met gloeien in het donker

Far too risky, look at national action, acted slightly like antifa and look how fast they were cracked down on, its suicide for us to act any way like those degenerates, that is unless the heat comes off a bit though I can't see why we wouldn't push more for public legitimacy even if we could.

No. The right has the benefit of being right, they have ideas. Jews need to be exterminated, not terrorized. This idea is catching on and no one can predict what will happen.

Read this article. environment --> genetics --> culture --> politics
quora.com/Why-does-the-1-7-Jewish-population-in-USA-have-so-much-political-power/answer/Curt-Doolittle

The only solution to the Jewish problem is extermination, that is to say genocide, which the Germans were too nice to do. Those genes are too harmful to everyone else. The second half of the 20th century demonstrates the need for Jewish extermination very well.

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>Act like how a political dissident in North Korea would act
Yeah, I'm sure the North Korean dissidents are very successful at what they're doing you fucking retard. Cowards never change anything.

>Yeah, I'm sure the North Korean dissidents are very successful at what they're doing you fucking retard. Cowards never change anything.
Yeah, as opposed to the GREAT POSITIVE CHANGES brought by Charlottesville amirite?

That's why they don't do stuff like Charlottesville anymore. Flash demos and postering are much more effective and they enemy can't get you because you're already gone by the time they see it.

it's a long standing fact on Jow Forums that shills hide their flag. I agree with what you said, but hiding behind a meme flag is like affixing a hooked nose to your face, even if you are saying reasonable things, the Jow Forumsish instinct to do the opposite of what the jew says will delegitimize whatever you say

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You just keep moving forward. Some stuff works, other stuff doesn't work. Americans always start shitting their pants once the enemy media reports badly about them but that's what they do, obviously, they're the enemy. You realize that Hitler fucked up pretty badly a few times while he tried to get into power, right? He went to prison, support for the party tanked to pretty much nothing, media ran constant propaganda campaigns against them. He had to fight every day for 14 year, had street fights with the antifa of the time and the police that was against him. The party was even banned from running in some local elections. He never gave a fuck about what the enemy press wrote about him, he just continued and kept trying. You're just a coward who tries to sell his far of doing anything as a virtue.

Hi CIA

the problem is the inherent right wing tendanceies of it, most right wing people are preoccupied with work while leftists are neets and uni fags that have no commitments, further they dont breed right wingers have familes they spend there off time with, im all for bustin up some leftie shit but the man power pool has to be single guys with time off with the physical capability to do stuff, in a concintrated area. most cities are leftist thats why they have there shit there and rural areas which are more spread out are rightwing but tend to be boober pilled due to no diversity. activism is a city thing and cities are lefty territory

Shills don't use meme flags, they are provided by their bosses with VPNs to appear as legitimate posters and you dumbasses help that narrative by blaming fun, harmless memeflags instead while sucking the dick of "real fellow citizens" who are actually Israelis with VPNs.

that's not the problem.
if the right wing start to get violent, the system will buttfuck them.
antifa are tools of Zog, they never get prosecuted.

Do you really believe Antifa is the source of the Left's strength? It isn't. Institutionalization is their strength now. Antifa is just the institution turning a blind eye.

We turn ourselves towards subversion now. Its very easy with the Left actually.

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Riots and protests don't actually work. They just piss people off.

I really don't care about your stupid reasoning for wanting be be different, I told you why people are shitting on you despite saying the correct things, if you are going to ignore it, enjoy your fate.
Yeah I'm sure some shills have vpns but they're impossible to detect, and a majority of the shillposting is with le fun xd muh snowflake individualism flags.
Meme flags clog up the thread with needless shill accusations, and when the idiot is too proud to take it off, a quarter- the whole thread can be derailed with bullshit.
Ever wonder why Jow Forums is the only board with meme flags. You're part of a problem and are wither a kike or a stupid asshole

Your opinion is worth shit to me so yeah, you can keep getting butthurt about a little pixel icon while I continue being correct.

The gayest fucking ninja larpers of all time.

Typical kike, only cares for himself, thinking nothing of how his actions effect others..

>I continue being correct.
Answer this

this

>Cowards never change anything.

true but going in jail because you hit a tranny/fag wont help you
talking and opening the eyes of other will get the movement ahead.

Except I don't as stated by my first post. I guess I'm a kike for not wanting our guys to have their lives ruined by the leftist establishment as they are sent by retarded "leaders" into blatant ambushes eh? Again, keep getting assmad about a little icon while anyone who isn't an easily distracted lemming can see the big picture, you stupid fucking imbecile. Thankfully this thread is proof that simpletons like you are outnumbered.

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There's a difference between beating up trannies on the street and doing IRL activism. If he says "do what North Korean dissidents would do", he is pretty much saying "don't do anything".

He's wrong, instead of copying Hitler's fuckups we should LEARN from them.

I didn't said IRL activism was bad, one thing is being smart and reasonable to win people's minds, another is chimping out in the streets and getting arrested while anyone else that might have been sympathetic to your cause walks away horrified. Does this looks like winning to you?

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>Hitler's fuckups
You just summarized Hitler's rise to power as one big fuck-up.
The goal is to gain power, is it not?

Exactly there's no way rioting helps gain a single follower to the cause. Protesting for that matter is useless too. Organisation is good. Forming institutional power such as having research teams, planners, people to ring government officials and email them, lawyers, and so on. That's how we can put massive pressure on them. Rioting is pointless. If you want to use violent force then possibly arson of their institution (or hacking/bugging or kidnapping of politicians forcing confessions or getting Intel. Rioting is nigger tier. We could literally use the antifa morons to do it for us. Just tell them that it's Nazis in the govt lol.

>Nothing good ever happens
>You have no power
>You can never have power
>You have no heroes
>Never do anything
>Look at this one image, it proves my point
This is all you shills can ever contribute. You use platitudes like "being smart" but you never actually clarify what that means. You always tell people to stop doing things, but never have any plans yourself. Hitler had shitty optics at times, lost public support, gained it back, ran into a whole bunch of issues on his way, but he just kept marching forward. This is how all political revolutions happen. You will never have the clean an perfect optics that fags like you demand. It's just a way to prevent people from marching forward, always keeping them in the planning phase to reach an unattainable standard before you finally *allow* them to do something, which you never will.

I totally agree with this analysis but I also think we need to be as optimal as we can an adapt to the situation. Lots of these faggots are just here because they're losers and broken people not because they care about the goal.

There needs to be multiple layers to combat the multitiered globohomo cancer:

> being open about right wing views (not in an awkward way, just confident, polite, and open)
> organising events with good optics (recent stuff from ukip is pretty good)
> some shock troops (ala antifa) but kept to a minimum

and the biggest one of all:

> more mass redpilling public visibility events (its ok to be white, etc)....

how the fuck can extinction rebellionfags get 100s of people to peacefully block traffic in protest of vague climate goals, but muslim rape gangs and black knife violence can't be discussed?

Far right is the new boogeyman. Your loose organization will be infiltrated by glowniggers and ex-leos who are still loyal to the state or federal government.

Not to mention you'll be painted as literal nazis on the media.

There needs to be multiple layers to combat the multitiered globohomo cancer:

> being open about right wing views (not in an awkward way, just confident, polite, and open)
> organising events with good optics (recent stuff from ukip is pretty good)
> some shock troops (ala antifa) but kept to a minimum

and the biggest one of all:

> more mass redpilling public visibility events (its ok to be white, etc)....

keep pushing stuff into mass consciousness. Jow Forums alone isn't enough. more irl events. bannering, graffiti, flyering, civil disobedience, etc

Random riots are obviously not an effective strategy, that's not the point. The National Socialists never went out to beat up people on the street, but they also never backed down when the Communists came to attack their rallies. They showed presence, took the areas back from the Communists, street by street. The memeflaggot want's us to "Act like how a political dissident in North Korea would act" which is all I am responding to.
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yes because acting like white niggers co-ops other whites to your POV...brainlet

>The memeflaggot want's us to "Act like how a political dissident in North Korea would act" (You) which is all I am responding to.
>.
Ok, so what's your winning approach then? Can't wait to hear it.

our countries are too bourgeois FvD has the right idea

The NSDAP came to power during the Great Depression. Inflation wiped out the middle class and turned them into peasants. This dude has the right idea. He ended my blackpill stage.

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Already on it.. Portland will soon find out

If there's one think we can learn about the NSDAP as a movement it's this, after coming to power ruthlessly attack all of your enemies with overwhelmingly and surprise force. Think Bush's doctrine in Iraq. Shock and awe.

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They're afraid of themselves. They want to ban guns because they know how they'd look like a gun on the first bad day they owned it.

>one think
jc

The NSDAP and their millions of SA volunteers were most successful when they specifically targeted people and drove them out of the country. The boycotts of jewish businesses and torching of synagogues hurt them immensely on the international stage, it was their precision campaign of individual terror that served them best.

We see this today. The organized jewish community ruthlessly attacks any individual that tries to get us off our suicidal path, they don't attack ideas or chimp out in the street.

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>You just keep moving forward. Some stuff works, other stuff doesn't work.
This is the best life advice anyone can give. I agree with your assessment about Americans, contrary to popular belief failure paralyzes the American. The NSDAP failed plenty but they always reinvented and pushed ever onwards. The Communists were the same. Lenin saved the Soviet Union by rejecting doctrinal Marxism after the early mass famines.

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Activism was about creating awareness. Just use the internet. Any demonstrations as per right-of-center politics will turn into a shit show. Just use the Internet. You give Antifa reason. Just use the internet. You can't control what kind of retards will show up and represent you. Just use internet,

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They definitely don't work in the short term. Charlottesville for example was surely a disaster but its returns compound with time, it was a death blow to stormfront types and created groups that are now attacking the mainstream right.

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First, large scale operations to put up propaganda posters. I wrote a lot about propaganda principles on infinity, 4/pol/ isn't really suited for big brain discussions. Then showing presence on the street, not rioting, but doing organized protests with uniforms. You split up into two sections, I call them "Volksbund" and "Sturmbund". The Volksbund is metapolitical and mainly focuses on community, helping people to get social connections, gets funding for the movement and so on. People there don't really take clear political stances, they just do chill group activities. That way you can have the members connect with each other while still being a step removed from the more intense stuff. The Sturmbund is about clear activism, clear political stances and is going out to distribute propaganda and do rallies on the street. I have a pretty thought out strategy that I will use in Germany. You on the other hand have responded to my accusation that you don't have anything yourself with "what do you have?", confirming that my accusation was correct.

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If we had another Great Depression perhaps i'd be inclined to agree. Postering campaigns should only be used to drive the vote, the average normie on the street only counts in the voting booth.

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They already think most the right is a bunch braindead evil nazi racist scumbag rapist privileged jerks sooooo
Might as well give the people what they want

Our number one goal should be cannibalizing the respectable centre. The It's Okay To Be White campaign was perfect as white people aren't going to act unless they're afraid. We need to show them how much they are hated. We need to make them fear for their future.

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Who thinks this? In Canada the left (NDP) are known as lazy dirtbags that are led by privileged jerks. In most countries the right is associated with pro-business and Christianity.

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Hi JIDF!

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>Lets all be dumb niggers.
Great plan.

So where are you from?

Show flag kike

organized protests with uniforms? Are you retarded? You're going to get everyone who's ever voted GOP taken to the Gulags. That's basically accelerationism. Why not just drive around in a white Ford Bronco that has "Kill Jews" spray painted down the side of it?

Decide whether you wanna indulge your Nazi fetishism or whether you want to try to build a foundation where you can bring identitarian ideas into the mainstream

>the average normie on the street only counts in the voting booth
This is an incredibly retarded position to take. I'm not a huge fan of democracy, but having the support of your people is very important. There are highly effective ways of using propaganda on the streets to create a really powerful image about our movement. It's not just about an election, it's about shaping the way people think. Most English speakers don't really understand half of what the National Socialist propaganda was rooted in. It's very powerful, but not used in the US in any way. I might put some of the stuff I posted on infinity into an info graphic or something so I can post it on Jow Forums as well, the posts here are just too limited to explain stuff in detail and the threads die too quickly.

>joining AIEM
Yea, nah. PF > AIEM in every way, but there is relatively strict vetting. No spergs, no fatasses.

Antifa are a bunch of faggots who don't know who their enemies are, all they do is run around larping as revolutionaries and getting pepper balled, they have achieved nothing.
The right attack as lone wolves, the sole attackers have a goal to achieve and a plan to achieve it.
No autistic black uniform, no organization, no group for the police to come looking for, and multiple successful happenings.
The right gets things done because they aren't like antifa.
Fear is rooted in the unknown, the less they know, the more they fear us.

I dunno user, I think you're being a little over bomerish with this. "The right attack as lone wolves, the sole attackers have a goal to achieve," and what exactly is that? "The right gets things done" like what?

We should dress up in black clothes, eventually with skull masks (good symbol) and beat up drug dealers in our neighborhoods like they do in Eastern Europe.
Graffiti over leftist graffiti and graffiti over leftist/feminist/prorefugee billboards, stickers, disrupting leftist protests etc.

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>That's basically accelerationism
You do realize that pretty much all western countries will have a non-white majority in 50 years, right? We either get a decision soon, or our children and grandchildren will have to fight against a non-white military, police and government.
>Nazi fetishism
>All fascism is National Socialism
>Uniforms are so scary
You're not going to infiltrate the GOP and turn it pro-white. If that's your plan, you're wasting valuable time.

that girl is cute

Exactly look what happened to RAM for defending themselves against antifa

no graffiti

Christchurch is a good example, Brenton Tarrant had no direct affiliation with any white supremacist groups, our government can legislate to try and stop further attacks, but as far as finding would be attackers they have nothing.
With no uniforms or slogans to look for, they're forced to jump at shadows, like honkler.
ISIS has used this tactic for decades, making it impossible to discern normal Arabs from ISIS members during attacks on them, since this results in the US attacking innocent Arabs in an attempt to squash the big bad jihad, other Arabs join ISIS to protect themselves.
The same will go for white supremacists, as the powers that be attempt to attack and demonize whites as a whole to eliminate white supremacists, more whites will begin to radicalise.

Why shouldnt I graffiti over a billboard with a nigger, white woman and a racemixed goblin saying "we're a normal family" and "against prejudice"

It's much easier to destroy something than it is to build it. Leftists exploit this and just break shit. If we as a group should do anything it's rebuild and shape society in such a way that we cannot possibly be seen as bad guys.
If the Left initiate violence in any form, respond in kind. If not - rebuild and move on.

Propaganda yes, not graffiti per se, but stencils. Awesome two or three tone stencils and extensive fly posting. IOTBW, or Stand your ground or whatever else is excellent for this reason. Just do it all the time, see a democrat shit? IOTBW, shitty leftist sticker? Sonnenrad sticker over it. Dumb shit graffiti? Swastik.... No don't do that one

DO IT

The National Socialists had sympathy from the Courts, military, police, and mainstream right wing politicians. That is a huge difference. Nobody is going to ever commute the Charlottesville prisoners' sentences.

They could though. It's all a matter of shifting the overton window.

>The National Socialists had sympathy from the Courts, military, police, and mainstream right wing politicians
From some members there, sure, but not as a whole. All of these institutions where strongly against them.

>they have the extreme far-left establishment and police on their side
Imagine being this out of touch with reality

Jow Forums is a board of peace, you glow nigger

The NSDAP was a party and they came to power during the Great Depression. What have you done again?

The faggots of antifa are pretty much the greatest thing that happened to us. Average people will see them and who they're siding with. And more important, they will see who keeps turning a blind eye on them.

We have the truth on our side, all we need to do is put a spotlight on it.

Why?

You do know that ISIS has been defeated right?

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>The NSDAP was a party
No shit.
>they came to power during the Great Depression
A true historian.
>What have you done again?
More than most, that's for sure. And I'm just getting started.

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Antifa regularly make themselves look like retards and are mocked by every side of the political spectrum. Why would anyone want to be like them? Isn’t the right wing supposed to be the «law and order» «I’ll protect you from those rioting commies» side?