If only believing in Jesus gets you to heaven, why would you stop sinning?

I don't speak stone age, post ESV

can you please keep your stupid fucking question in grade school?

fuck off and go learn what Jesus taught you fucking moron.

header you dipshit
even so, you need to understand the hebrew and the greek to know more about the word that was used at that time

for example, world has one meaning in english but not every time world is mentioned in the bible does it go back to just one definition

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lol so you cant even read shakespeare? what a fucking retard.

If someone were that interested, they could EASILY c/p and have it in a flash. The information is there, what fucking difference does it make.

What makes you think you are even capable of stopping sinning?

If you glowniggers are going to make a thread about jew milkers, at least have a minimum of 5 images set up. I'm disappointed.

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You need faith that Christ's sacrifice is enough to redeem you of your sin. (Romans 3.23 + John 14.6)

You also need to be baptised (Mark 16.16)

You can't 'fake faith'. Sola Fide is the hardest thing to acquire. It demands a true faith, and you wouldn't demean yourself in certain sins if you had that (but would still be born in sin, and all sins are equal: Both impossible to avoid and absolved by Christ's sacrifice - if you have true faith).

Is correct. Luther gives the example of a man absolved of sin who immediately turns to his peers and can't help but covet. We're all sinners and basically need faith in God (Christ as emblem, of) to accept us despite this.

You can't fake it.

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then why even have 14,15, and 16?
if you're quoting the bible you should QUOTE the bible. you can say phrases but adding the 14, 15, and 16 just shows you went and copy pasted it but didnt take the effort in copying the source and chapter

Because you believe in jesus
If you continue to sin its proof you really dont

Romans 7
We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature.[c] For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

21 So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22 For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; 23 but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. 24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? 25 Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!

So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature[d] a slave to the law of sin.

Not true. Western civilisation is built on the Vulgate which is a translation of the Septuagint. If you read
>The Bible
>Jerome
>Luther's 1520 tracts*

You are armed enough to save your imperilled soul.

* Concerning Christian Liberty
* On Babylonian Captivity
* A Treatise on Good Works

which one looks better

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life

John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life

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something something old testament quote something something old testament quote something something israel is our greatest ally.
t. christcuck

you have to eat the whole roll my dude

people who actually believe dont want yo sin

Read Romans 3.23 followed by Luther's On Christian Liberty/The Freedom of a Christian. Cherrypicking breeds confusion in the Pauline Epistles due to his dialectic style.

You are a slave to the corporeal in opposition to the divine (as Paul says in the passage you are quoting)

I did copy paste it. But I get your point. I just rushed it up there and I figured this guy doesn't care anyways, and the words are there but you're right.

You wouldn't, christian morality is garbage because its fundamentally semitic

Not the Old Testament unless you want to know
* Christ's basis for claiming divinity
* The rules he is creating a set of beliefs in order to move away from (old useless shite if you're a Christian).

II.
You can only trust the Gospels of Christ, even just the reporting of his words within said Gospel. James and Co. are dubious.

Before you give your life to Jesus and after for quite some time, abandoning sin is pretty much always on your mind. The idea of never looking at porn, getting drunk or high, fighting, listening to your favorite music, even watching movies and playing video games is very intimidating.

You read through the Bible and the law constantly weighs heavily on you and so you pressure yourself daily. It's a heavy burden.

Even though the law is from God the idea is worldly and easily digested by a new Christian. For the most part we don't murder or steal... we try to be good people right? So you translate this to your new Christian life.

Eventually you break and this creates a cycle. You constantly abstain and then binge on sin when your will power finally snaps. This cycle goes on for quite some time.

Then after spending time in your relationship with Christ you realize one day that you weren't bound by the law in Christ but freed from it. That through the years somehow he has changed your spirit and that the things you once thought were important aren't as heavy anymore. Sin, while still a part of you has become a temporary state as you know one day you will be free from it.

The fear that initially drove you to God gives way to love when you finally realize what his forgiveness really meant. When your eyes are open you realize that you have been willfully sticking your face in a bucket of shit your whole life and that is something you should want to stop and so you do your best to do so. Like a dog eating its vomit you will fail sometimes, but the Lord has always known your failings and loves you anyway.

This is the way to spiritual freedom and contentment in this life.

Failure to repent means you don't trust him.

Jerome's commentary is 1700 years old and ably sets out the inherent linguistic arguments. Don't act as if it's secret knowledge.

>you will fail sometimes

OP's point remains unrefuted if not proven lmao

Because if you truly believe in Jesus, that would be reflected in your actions.

no ones perfect, in this walk of faith you're going to fall. seven times or seventy times. the idea is that you never give up and just lay on the ground

We have to sin because if we don't then Jesus died for nothing. I don't want to do it but I have no choice because I love Jesus.

The OP's question comes from his lack of understanding of what a relationship with Christ actually means.

There is nothing to prove, disprove, or refute.

that's actually always been my biggest problem with protestantism and their focus on sola fide. it removes any reason to put effort into bettering yourself and we can see the results of that in the world around us.
read the sayings of the desert fathers and all the stuff they went through, obviously there's more to it than sola fide.

>everyone in this thread acts like they know a thing or two
>wont even go fish for the elect

Matthew 9:37 Then saith he unto his disciples, The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few;

38 Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he will send forth labourers into his harvest

Luke 14:23 And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled

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>If only believing in Jesus gets you to heaven,
it doesn't work like that, why do so many retards think that's how it works?

The point you are missing is having Christ actually be active in and alive in your life. When you see him answer your prayer, remove or place an obstacle in your life to guide you, or otherwise demonstrate his power in your life your faith grows.

This isn't religion. This is personally witnessing the power of God first hand. For awhile you might dismisses it as coincidence but after years of witnessing his concern for you, you can't help but become accustomed to it.

It may have been the church that led you too him, but in the end it is your relationship with him that matters. You aren't sinning against some words in a book anymore. Now you are sinning against the God that suffered for your own selfishness. The God that has been watching over you through your whole life.

You will still sin, but it's not the same as it was when you first started your walk with Him.

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>why are retards retarded

people are going to die, therefore pray NOT for those people. neither give them god's speed

Matthew 10:34
-"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword."

because if you really do believe in Jesus you would follow his word. and that is refraining from sin, we are not sinless like he was. its kind of implied that we are going to sin anyways, but it is through forgiveness and faith that you may be saved. No where does it say that only believing in his existence is guaranteed salvation. you must TRULY believe and by that it means you would follow what God has said.

2 Esdras 8:1 And he answered me, saying, The most High hath made this world for many, but the world to come for few.

2 I will tell thee a similitude, Esdras; As when thou askest the earth, it shall say unto thee, that it giveth much mould whereof earthen vessels are made, but little dust that gold cometh of: even so is the course of this present world.

3 There be many created, but few shall be saved.

I personaly keep saying that you have to eat the whole roll. you cant pick and choose what you like from the bible

James 2:14 14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,

16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?

17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone

Proverbs 14:12
"There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death."

Faith and works not faith alone you proddy heretic

KJV is a 6th grade reading level bud