Odinism/Wotanism is nothing more than a re-constructed LARPing cult created by a schizo boomer in the 1800's. It has nothing to do with European Paganism which died off 2,000 years ago.
Guido von List (5 October 1848 – 17 May 1919), was an Austrian occultist, journalist, playwright, and novelist. He expounded a modern Pagan new religious movement known as "Odinism".
Much of List's understanding of the ancient past was based not on empirical research into historical, archaeological, and folkloric sources, but rather on ideas that he claimed to have received as a result of clairvoyant illumination.[35] Later writer Richard Rudgley thus characterised List's understanding of the "pagan past" as an "imaginative reconstruction" (a fucking LARP kek)
List's Wotanism/Odinism was constructed largely on the Prose Edda and the Poetic Edda, two Old Norse textual sources which had been composed in Iceland during the late Middle Ages; he nevertheless believed that they accurately reflected the belief systems of Germany, having been authored by "Wotanist" refugees fleeing Christianity.
In addition, List claimed that in the eighth century, Armanists had imparted their secret teachings to the (((Jewish Rabbis))) of Cologne in the hope of preserving them from Christian persecution; he believed that these teachings became the Kabbalah, which he therefore reasoned was an ancient German and not Jewish innovation, thus ((( legitimizing its usage in his own teachings))).[52]
>Why doesn't this White man just give in and worship a Semitic god
Tyler Kelly
you understand that from Varg's perspective, Christianity and Islam are basically the same thing?
Christianity are "muslims" that conquered Europe, destroyed the native culture.
Samuel Watson
Christcucks bashing on pagans all the time, I think it's guilt, I think they know, that burning all those women so the clergy could freely fuck choirboys, is going to be paid back sometime.
Justin Walker
The poems in the prose edda were written down in Christian times but were part of a pagan-era oral tradition. Old fairy tales are the same way. Some Eddic myths exist in Danish and German records as well, and the structure of the religion is very similar to that of other Indo-European peoples.
>Bad misrepresentation of norse paganism is only thing I know avout paganism so I'm against it. Must be hard living with an middle eastern identity Mr. Burger.
John Roberts
Christcucks are really lashing out lately. Why? Probably because they know their religion is all but dead.
>2000 years ago Give or take. There's a reason Varg prefers to rep Bronze Age paganism.
John Clark
> SEETHING BAHAHAHAAHAH All of you faggots are LARPers that follow a meme cult created by a fucking schizo boomer in the 1800's. And you like to slander us Christians? Where are your holy books? Your holy texts? Where are your rituals? Your prayers? Incantations? Where are your fake pagan idols? The truth is that none of you are real Pagans because Paganism died off 2,000 years ago and most of what any of you "follow" is a re-construction , twisted and put back together via Von List using the (((Kabbalah))). You're all fedora tipping larpers and you've been exposed fucking kek.
kek what do you mean a bad representation? Norse Paganism/Odinism was re-created in the fucking 1800's you pagaNEET larper. None of you know anything about real Paganism because it died off 2,000 years ago when our ancestors embraced the Christian Faith. You are all LARPers and everyone knows you are all LARPers. You come on Jow Forums bashing Christians 24/7 but yet you follow a fake meme cult kek.
Wyatt Lopez
What about stopping all this retardation before you start worshipping Frodo, Harry Potter and other normie fictional shit thinking it is real after some centuries from now?
Eli Campbell
Your meme died off 2,000 years ago Go pour some milk down your toilet for your daily blot to Guido Von List kek
Lincoln Evans
Based and redpilled
Thomas Garcia
> meme flag kek and the JIDF kikes come into the thread
Paganism is a fad just like atheism was. It's just riding on the coattails of the rising white nationalism movement and will dissipate when its adherents realise they're worshiping fucking Marvel superheros and not the gods their ancestors followed, worshiped, and made sacrifices to. They just create some sort of Dungeons and Dragons version of what their ancestor's religion was, and their "worship" is complaining about Christianity on the internet. Utter weaklings- the Jew knows and will exploit this
and don't forget Christpilled lad I'm literally keking at these pagancucks who didn't even know they were following a meme larping cult. I guarantee none of the paganeets ITT even knew where their meme came from. Holy fuck pagancucks just got rekt into paganeet oblivion haha
Connor Carter
> we worship king david kek this is your mind on pagancuckism meanwhile PAGANKEKS worship an old 200 year old Boomer that created their LARP
Read Mein Kampf, Hitler described exactly how these divisive clowns were back then too. We need a new Inquisition. This is a great opportunity for jews to jump on the pagan bandwagon against Christians
And your whole > l-let's go back to our original pagan religions > w-which we don't know anything about > l-let's follow a re-constructed distortion of original paganism that has nothing to do with paganism from 2,000, hell even 1,000 years ago > but I promise we follow the original pagan religion of our ancestors !!! fucking kek
Gavin Butler
>Norse Paganism/Odinism was re-created in the fucking 1800's you pagaNEET larper. Not the only kind of paganism, once again. Have you actually read anything about this subject? >None of you know anything about real Paganism because it died off 2,000 years ago when our ancestors embraced the Christian Faith. Christian faith came about 1000 years ago and it didn't even kill our paganism. The jews just started claiming pagan traditions as part of their culture. Big holidays in my country are still pagan festivals, jul and midsummer. >You are all LARPers and everyone knows you are all LARPers. You come on Jow Forums bashing Christians 24/7 but yet you follow a fake meme cult kek. I don't follow any cult because I don't need to. I can be one with my identity and land without any priests telling me what to do.
they know nothing about what constitutes a true religion. they have no tradition, no rites, no sacred books. they are just larpers as you said
Brayden Parker
"...for example, of Christianity—for Christianity is not a natural religion for the Germans, but a religion that has been imported and which strikes no responsive chord in their hearts and is foreign to the inherent genius of the race. " About that.
Brody Foster
>Not the only kind of paganism, once again.Have you actually read anything about this subject? Odinism/Wotanism is the type of Paganism that mostly all paganeets on Jow Forums follow. I've exposed their meme cult and now they have nothing. Are they going to larp and start following Hellenic paganism now? Even tho they are Nords/Germanics and Meds would literally be calling them we wuzzing niggers? The only people who can claim to follow a pure form of Paganism are Meds, but Meds are mostly all Christian. So the Pagancuck LARP dies off even before it gets started.
>Christian faith came about 1000 years ago and it didn't even kill our paganism. The jews just started claiming pagan traditions as part of their culture. Big holidays in my country are still pagan festivals, jul and midsummer. A few holidays is all you have from Paganism? That's literally only 5% of the 95% you need to bring back authenthic and REAL paganism. >I don't follow any cult because I don't need to. I can be one with my identity and land without any priests telling me what to do. so what type of Paganism do you follow?
WHAT ABOUT POURING MILK DOWN YOUR TOILET TO INVOKE ODIN LAD ? WE ALL NEED TO DO OUR DAILY BLOTS FOR GUID .. ER I MEAN ODIN !!
Liam Bennett
even if the folklore of scandinavia and ancient greece/rome was full of gods, few were actually part of an actual religion (the mysteries) which involves rites and tradition. true paganism died with the last transmitters of their religion
Jackson Richardson
where is this quote from better not say table talks lad
Elijah Gutierrez
>american >starts posting his interracial cuck fetishes out of nowhere not surprised
they are literally all blackpilled lads that got brainwashed by that Vargtard and his meme larp. Varg is a retard that advocates for the destruction of Gothic Cathedrals, created by Goths themselves , using their own minds, and their own hands. He literally wants us to go back to living in the stone age. Atleast other pagans like STJ and TGO know the importance of Christian Architecture.
Gabriel Gonzalez
Valhalla is literally for allahuakbars, not for righteous people. Know your own religion, you meme LARPer nigger underage faggot.
Gabriel Nelson
>The only people who can claim to follow a pure form of Paganism are Meds, but Meds are mostly all Christian You have no idea what you're talking about lad. >A few holidays is all you have from Paganism? >That's literally only 5% of the 95% you need to bring back authenthic and REAL paganism. The thing is that whole western identity is based on the Greek/Roman philosophies and pagan traditions and lifestyle. But tell me Mr. Jew How much of your culture is actually "christian"? Tell me parts of christian culture that are not actually jewish or european (pagan,). >so what type of Paganism do you follow? I follow a rather simple and casual approach to religion, mostly to connect myself to my ancestors. I read about history and tradition to connect with the nature and the past. Based around finnish paganism and traditions, if that isn't obvious.
Oliver Wilson
Valhalla is a literal meme afterlife
Michael Lewis
> pagancuck tries to deflect from the topic at hand > also fucking Sweden of all places calling us burgers cucks wew So do you worship Guido von List lad ?
Anthony Anderson
I'll take pagans over christcucks any fucking day of the week thanks.
Just read the Bhagavad Gita and other Hintu texts. That is as close as you can get to European Pagan faiths. Why worship Wotan when you can practice Vedanta and worship the supreme godhead lord Krishna?
>You have no idea what you're talking about lad. Southern Europe is the most Christian part of Europe. Even Vargtard admits that Southern Europe is Christian (Catholic) due to them keeping Pagan traditions, this is a meme and just cope tho, Southern Europe is more devoutly Christian because of their strong faith in Christ and the hardships they had to endure.
>The thing is that whole western identity is based on the Greek/Roman philosophies and pagan traditions and lifestyle. But tell me Mr. Jew How much of your culture is actually "christian"? Tell me parts of christian culture that are not actually jewish or european (pagan,). retaining Greco-Roman knowledge in science, math, astronomy, etc. doesn't mean we are crypto-pagans kek, we don't worship pagan idols on Christmas or Easter, we worship Jesus Christ on these supposedly "pagan" holidays, this argument makes no sense at all.
>I follow a rather simple and casual approach to religion, mostly to connect myself to my ancestors. I read about history and tradition to connect with the nature and the past. Based around finnish paganism and traditions, if that isn't obvious. Ok so you just read books about Finnic Mythology … that's your idea of being a pagan?
Juan Anderson
i knew you would accept your LARP'ing someday lad
Wyatt Harris
Easter worshippers should focus on more important priorities imo.
Ethan Harris
> following poo in loo religions fucking kek these have been distorted by dravidians for thousands of years. Don't tell me pagans are now going to LARP as poo in loos.
Brody Howard
> easter worshipper > using /leftycuck/ fedora anti-christian terms yikes
Connor Hall
Actually it's the neopagans who should. Christians don't care if you are pagan, but pagans devout their whole belief system on mostly just bitching about Christianity
Jacob Jenkins
>Christians don't care if you are pagan The destruction of the classical world says otherwise
Pagans persecuted Christians for 300 years before that
Oliver Nguyen
>telling people to be loyal to the state and performing the duties agreed upon in the social contract is persecution Christians were the first leftists
could pagans please respond, why all people converted to christianity? isn't that fact telling us that even back in their own time paganism wasn't "strong enough", what are your though about it? how could it make us stronger now? the biggest expansion of whitetoids was basically done under christianity...
BTW I'm not bashing paganism per se, I actually like to read about it, but the way things are right now paganism and atheism are only contributing to the general "disorder" (and I put those two together because politically they can be considered the same, although paganist are at least "grounded" to something ...)
> Christians destroyed the classical world guise !!! > OY VEY !!!
It was Christian Germanic Tribes that put an end to degenerate Rome, and gave rise to a Christian Europe that has been the most advanced and powerful civilization the world has ever seen. There is a reason why Germanic Tribes ditched the pagan LARP and embraced the Christian Faith. Even the Vandals created a highly advanced Christian empire in North Africa, the Kingdom of Vandals and Alans. this Germanic Christian Empire rivaled Byzantium itself for 200 years before getting absorbed by Justinian. Hell, your nation only began to become Sweden via Christian Warriors like Gustavus Adolphus and Carolus Rex. The Christian Caroleans were the best fighting force at the time, and they were extremely devout Christians. Carolus Rex would literally flog any pagancuck in his country if he were to still live . Read the Gothic Bible lad
John Jenkins
>could pagans please respond, why all people converted to christianity? The fact that it took Christianity 300 years of subversion to convert every new area they got to isn't exactly proof of the superiority of Christianity. Yeah Christianity was really good at converting women and slaves.
Christianity was growing fast after Jesus died even when being suppressed
Nathaniel Richardson
> Our Germanic ancestors were women and slaves um ...
Ryder Nguyen
No, it proves that Christianity was able to dominate the antiquated pagan world through the power of example and (unfortunately) the sword as well. Note how the pagan mocks Christianity for being weak when it suits him but builds it up into a scary Jewish boogeyman on other occasions. The Jew cries out in pagan as he strikes you, for sure
It wasn't suppressed. Stop falling for Christian lies. Romans didn't really even care about them until around the beginning of the 200s and most historians believe the martyrs numbered below 1k during all of Christian history until Constantine. Yeah it's common knowledge that women and slaves were the ones being converted.
Ever noticed when you go to church, basically the only men in the church are the people that work there and all the rest are women? It's no coincidence.
>It has nothing to do with European Paganism which died off 2,000 years ago.
There was still Pagans in Europe 800 years ago.
Blake Ortiz
I'm not antichristian and it's not leftpol fren. Christians are just this abused on a global level now. Prove me wrong (pls).
desu I don't think there are neopagans. Not in any number anyway. I don't mean to disrespect pagans either, guys like STJ and others really impress me on an intellectual level. But as far as LARPing in the woods or at ruins and unironically praying to old gods like Wotan and Zeus, it seems dumb and very few people are called to do it. Men like David Lynch, Richard Wagner, that Ultimate Warrior pro-wrestler, certain rockstars of the past at times, etc. those are true neopagans, as it's more like a psychology than a mode of conscious belief either way. I hope this rambling makes at least some sense. But anyway those guys I've listened to like Steven McNallen (spelling?) they don't seem actively anti-Christian. It's mostly just Varg, NEETs and socially retarded leftists. And like I said, Christians should focus on other things, uncucking conservative establishments in their countries for one thing. This shit is a waste of time imo.
Jose Cox
Pagans mock Christianity because it is weak.
Subversion isn't strength. The fact that it took around 300 years for every new area to be converted and really the thing that eventually sealed the deal in most places was the fact that the king/chieftain wanted shiny trinkets and trade deals doesn't really prove the "power" of Christianity. >muh jews hate Christianity meme
Add to the fact that in Germanic countries at least it was more of a tool for power consolidation rather than everyone just saying "oh fuck every single thing we've ever done up until now". I respect Christians deeply but there is a side to reality that most will never choose to penetrate, like they cannot give up the abstraction for a second, even if they believe the Bible wasn't metaphor in part or w/e. And that's probably for the better because >you don't want an entire society having an existential crisis >I would rather them be religious than doped up on ZOG pharmaceuticals desu
John Sanders
>Christianity is weak Saying while your flag has a Christian cross on it
Andrew Cox
That's because a lot of people witnessed it all. Word spreads fast user. Everything in human history pales in comparison with the rise of early christianity.
Adam Price
kek
Carson Bell
No one knew who this guy was until you dug him up lol. We don't care that you want to worship a jew, but we will point it out, and we will point out your cognitive dissonance.
Dylan Hall
No, entire Germanic Tribes accepted the Christian Faith, Wilfilah (srry if I butcher his name) preached the Gospel to the Germanic Tribes and they all converted by witnessing miracles with their very own eyes. They saw that Jesus Christ was more powerful than Odin , they saw the miracles and the prayers answered by praying to God and accepting Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. They actually heard that there is a God out there that LOVES them as his children. When has Odin ever said he loved his children? He has never showed any love to his people, Odin instead demands for you to die in battle for you to be accepted in Valhalla. Odin actually demands for you to sacrifice your own children to him, in the manner of the (((Canaanites))) and their child sacrifice cult.
Whenever I go to church, I see men with their families there. Maybe protestant churches are like this, but due to the pretty churches getting cucked by leftist elements. If the Lutheran Church were to go back to actually being based and redpilled, Sweden would become a traditional Christian nation again like it once was under Carolus Rex.
Blake Hill
only on the fringes of Christian civilization, and most of these pagans worshipped Christ alongside their Gods. They have found Thor Hammers and Crosses made into pendants, showing that these "Pagans" also worshipped Christ alongside their Gods.
Joshua Murphy
>they all converted by witnessing miracles with their very own eyes. Yeah kinda like how when that one Christian went and attacked a tree with the trees natural enemy; the axe, and then called it a miracle which caused everyone to convert when they saw that axe beats tree? >I see men with their families there doubt that >Sweden would become a traditional Christian nation again like it once was under Carolus Rex. Sweden was based because everyone was based at that time. Christianity had nothing to do with it.
you know why Christianity is cucked right now? Because of (((Christian Zionism))) aka Evangelical Christianity, which was literally created by kikes to dupe boomers into believing they are god's chosen people. I'm surprised people have not looked into the C.I Scofield Bible and it birthing Christian Zionism.
>HURRRR THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WAS INFILTRATED SO THE CHRISTIAN BELIEF IS FOR KEKS
Jaxson Brown
>2019 >vargposting
Brody Perez
Yahweh commanded Abraham to do the same thing. Stop all this religious shit flinging and realise that these are petty arguments. Unimportant and a waste of time.
Jaxon Williams
you are in so much denial lad Pagans themselves who were literate and knew how to write, explain that they converted to Christianity due to witnessing actual miracles performed by the power of God. Vladimir the Great converted to Christianity when he got baptized in the Danube I believe, and when he came back up, his eyesight was healed and restored. He was literally on the verge of going blind and God healed him. Thus all of the Rus converted willingly to Christianity. The same thing with Pagans in Scandinavia, Ireland, Britain, etc. They all witnessed the power of almighty God themselves. Now I know there were forced conversions made by Christians. but these were literally nothing in comparison to the voluntary conversions that ordinary people made themselves.
Juan Reed
This is what I'm trying to say, you pagans don't even know where your new age "religion" came from, it took a Christian of all people to tell you were your beliefs come from. From a lad in the 1800's, who created Odinism/Wotanism, this is what you follow thinking it's authentic.
Luke Morgan
>receives psychic vision >makes religion around it
This is perfectly inline with religion.
Jack Hill
>Yeah kinda like how when that one Christian went and attacked a tree with the trees natural enemy; the axe, and then called it a miracle which caused everyone to convert when they saw that axe beats tree? do you even know the story of St. Bonafice and him chopping down the World Tree? He didn't even chop it down. He literally just hit it lightly on the side, and after a couple second, the ENTIRE tree cracked in the middle and fell down. The Pagans saw this miracle and converted right there and then.
>doubt that Church is a family event, i'm just telling you what I see when I go to church with my family each sunday. >Sweden was based because everyone was based at that time. Christianity had nothing to do with it. Caroleans were Christian fanatics and had no fear of dying because they knew their martyrdom would ensure them a place in Heaven .
Austin Miller
Wrong. Biblical Jews are not semitic, and they are extinct. They are called Jews because of Jerusalem, and they come from the tribe of Shem and are descendants of Abraham. Semites are not real Jews, they are frauds from a different tribe that are trying to trick Christians, and it has only started working since the end of ww2. Judaism != biblical Jews. Christianity has always been an explicitly pro-white religion. >America is founded on Christian principles >Freedom of religion was only added to stop persecution between the different sects of Christianity >Jews were literally banned from this country for over 100 years, and Jewish refugees escaping Nazi Germany were turned away >HURRRRR CHRISTIANITY IS A JEWISH RELIGION
Ayden Edwards
Himmler had nothing bad to say about Jesus Christ, he believed Christ was an Aryan and he was the re-incarnation of KRIST, the Atlantean aryan deity that the Germanic people worshipped 200,000 thousand years ago before Odinism came along and erased Irminism. Even Himmler hated Odinism kek.
Evan Long
> the truth is bait So tell me, are you an Odinist ?
Christians never had usury or a kike banking system, and if they did, the kikes infiltrated
Sebastian Perez
Absolutely. Catholicism has many, many faults but Anglos being the race to figure out how to unfuck infant mortality + not having a decisively Christian central authority was not a great combo for white people geopolitically.
