Girlfriend of years starts telling me she isn't happy but can't substantiate why really...

>(...) staying at another guy's house I don't know for the weekend

When girls have the balls to end a relationship is because they probably already found another guy. She wants to end this because she doesn't love you anymore and wants another. Typical woman shit.
Love yourself. Don't humiliate yourself for her... no women deserves that. Don't let her come back if the other relationship doesn't turn out well... she's only thinking about her so value yourself.

Seems to me like she either cheated on you or is extremely close to. The difference between these two scenarios doesn't matter to you though, you and your girlfriend are done.

>Where do I go from here?
The gym, hobbies, work, close friends. If you only take one advice from these replies it should be this: It's over; do your best to move past it. Please try your best to not take any of the shit she has laid on you here personally. Just try your best to erase her from your life and believe that the cunts of the world are perfectly capable of finding misery when left to their own devices.

It's fucking over bro, she is mad that she it's with her real lover, you're just a mistake.

run far far away.

Its over. The only real question is why you need /adv to tell you its over.

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That's why I was confused and wanting some kind of feedback. I've date quite a few girls often for long periods of time but this has been next level insanity. That's what it seems like and that's also why I'm planning on ending it as soon as she gets back.
It should have been discussed if the person cared at all, which she obviously didn't. This is also why it pissed me off so fucking bad. Sure it's normally one sided, but at the same time most people at least have a serious discussion first before forcing that shit, and they do it knowing it could fubar the relationship. She shoved it out of nowhere, only briefly mentioning anything about a break.
Didnt, just was hoping to get constructive feedback basically. Pretty much accepted it was over the moment she altered her Facebook and pulled the break shit.

Unfortunetly OP, this

>my only choice is to end this shit
There's a new guy she's fucking, she has already removed herself from the relationship, seems like you didn't get the memo.

This really. My ex broke up with me today and like OP my girl just started acting a fool for no reason. And to make matters worse she recently went to Vegas, comes back and flips out and then crescendos with "I cant keep fighting anymore, I'm losing energy, etc". Me thinks she cheated and doesnt wanna own up to it because theres no fucking way you break off a relationship over a Facebook deletion or your partners traits that have been there since day 1. I'm fastly losing my motivation for women, I honestly am. I'm bout to hit sage mode and just say fuck women for the rest of my days cause I cant keep putting up with my heart being torn out.

Same, my girl suggested a break once and I knocked that shit down instantly, comes back from Vegas a few days ago and instantly hits me with "break" over a small spat. What sickens me is shes the one who spouted "if theres someone else tell me", yet she cant admit to me through text of all things that she may have had a fling in Vegas, cause I dont believe any sane woman would try to force a breakup this hard over some spats that all couples have

That fucking sucks. You know most of the time this happens when some guy or girl out of their league shows interest. They start getting delusional thinking they can do better. Then they either get absolutely nothing from this new person or just get fucked and ghosted. It's pathetic but it's human nature I guess.

The problem for men these days is how normal it is for women to keep male friends, private direct messages on social apps, and girls night outs with friends who have no morals (and with women, usually want to sabotage any healthy relationship their less slutty friends have).

I have had several girlfriends' "best friends" proposition me for sex subtly. It's fucking gross, women are gross like that. Basically my advice is to break convention and make it very clear she can't spend time alone with men including social media messages, and all of her text/emailb etc must be accessible to you at all times. They can still fuck around on you but if you make it very clear you will walk away after even a suspected misstep they will think twice, but you have to really mean it

Some guys suggest not showing your cards right away, make them think you are a Reddit male kind of guy and watch to see what they do. That can be smart early on and then shift into possessive rules after she's proven trustworthy enough.

I do think that long term the only path towards monogamy is having kids with them, but people seem to disagree and divorce is still high

I feel you man, I really do. And that's the sad part. In the past shes asked about women on my Facebook, I tell her they're friends or old co workers and even offer to show my phone or messenger to her. But when it comes to her guy friends, I always get some rushed answer or some excuse, "oh hes married, he doesnt want me" or even stupidly not paying deeper attention to when she said she can still contact her fuck buddy if she ever needed to. It doesnt help her best friend is a tinder slut who cant keep a man to save her life. I even told her too that not to do what her friend does while in Vegas. In all honesty I should of seen the signs, but you try to ignore those for people you love. She has dad issues however, so no guy will ever be good enough till she addresses that

>>Where do I go from here?
you cut this girl off and move on
>What the fuck was this even?
she met someone new and exciting, and this basically put her brain in factory reset mode as she turns her back on you and starts courting this other guy. don't bother trying to appeal to all your history together, it doesn't matter now. just pick yourself up and move on, and if she comes crawling back do not give her a chance.

I can completely relate. Don't be ashamed like I was. It can take a long while for a good guy to realize how shitty the average woman is. Just keep your head up and above it, I say. We need a combination of good woman you can trust, possessiveness, and actual trust. We gave the benefit of the doubt because you want to believe she's as good as you are. Its insulting when they fuck around, and it's stupid human nature but most women want you to really boss them around. They feel insecure otherwise like you aren't all-in. They want a guy who will be possessive as hell but also willing to dump them if they fuck around. It makes sense biologically but this one that left you after a Vegas trip was probably on the shitty end of the spectrum. She'll have a bad life with some other guy who cheats on her and regret it. She'll start hating her slutty friend. Then she'll be alone, too late.

Whenever I told my exes about their slutty friends hitting on me they'd act like I was full of shit but then their friendship would dissolve. She'll eventually see her "friend" wanted to dress her down with her in lonely slut living, and they'll get what is coming to them. Fucking sucks but you have the higher ground and you are rid of a shitty woman. Older and wiser.

Thanks man. I'm sad as fuck, but your advice is a world of help. I even told her that relationships are everyday work and that I was down for challenge. It's just depressing watching them give up because you know they have more in them, but you're right. She has anxiety up the ass and mood swings, so either she addresses the root of these issues, which is her father, or she destroys some other guys' life. It's just sad how women are so easily swayed, you dont realize this shit till it happens to you.

This is what happens when you break traditions
Rules that have regulated civilization for decades have been tossed aside for the sake of "freedom" and "equality"
Your society is dying and the values that stopped people from acting like assholes or at least limited it are dying with each passing second
To all the dudes wait till you want kids find an honest girl(A dying breed in this age) and marry her its as simple as that.
Shit like this hasn't become the norm yet in my society but is slowly creeping in.
God help us

Op here. Sorry you went through that man. I ended whatever was left of my relationship today, I'd be lying if I said it didn't hurt because it does.

I was fine all day at work and then I got home and now my house life just feels fucking empty. It's just like this big pillar in my life is gone that had been there for a long time, even if she tarnished it in the last month.

Just wish things could be different, and women weren't like this.

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>Girlfriend of years starts telling me she isn't happy but can't substantiate why really. Proceeds to start being insanely difficult and picking fights, she got mad the other day because I didn't smile when she wanted me to do so and began a huge barrage of questions and began demanding I tell her why I love her and why were together.
>She proceeded after this minor spat where I told her it was unreasonable to expect anyone to do things like this on demand and told her she isn't acting like herself and she needs to calm down and get her head straight. She tried to demand a break and I refused since that won't resolve whatever the hell this is even.
>She proceeds to cancel our vacation/work trip plans we made months ago the night before and says she won't do it and she is going on the work trip and staying at another guy's house I don't know for the weekend she used to work with. Doesn't let me have any say in the matter and refused to discuss it and says it's happening regardless of what I say.
This is her breaking up with you. She doesn't have the guts to tell you so she's trying to make you ditch her instead (so she can look like the victim). It's a common approach for the cowardly.

It's already over. She may or may not have been sleeping with someone else already, but she's definitely getting railed by the other guy in the weekend. Sorry bro.

Yeah, I took the day off and everything feels so fucking empty. The only thing keeping me intact is knowing deep down that this needed to end. I wish her no ill will, but I hope she grows up and realizes life takes work. She talks of wanting to get married by 29 (she turns 26 this oct), and I dont see that happening if shes willing to invest so hard yet give up so easily on a 1.5yr relationship.

I suspected as much, and honestly it just pisses me off more.

You shouldn't feel empty, the fact that you do means that you were using her to fulfill yourself. Men can't really risk that kind of mindset and lifestyle because of the frequency that it brings them tragic situations. You need fulfillment without women. You'll end up being more and less picky about women after that. Like, I don't really care about a woman's personality outside of how it would effect her performance as a mother/wife in the general sense. I have all of my other needs met in other ways.

Kill yourself, SJW.

Kinda how I feel, if she was willing to throw away a healthy relationship on a whim over the trivial stuff that had been going on the last few months she wont sustain any sort of long term relationship. Im 28 and she was 29 and were both going to hit another year on that this year.

You have a nearly 30 year old girl, still doing this shit, and showing signs of that wall fast approaching and she is doing this shit. She is living on borrowed time, honestly she is probably going to have to harshly downgrade after another year or two. As she is now, she wont hold together looking the way she does now for long.

Didn't care because I was happy, well obviously now its just sad because she is straight up fucking herself over.

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Not in today's society. Women take advantage of the "privilege" they have today, and would easily go the single mum route taking benefits from the gov (UK) and blackmailing their ex with alimony. It's a shit world honestly..

This is why we need to roll back their rights and privileges a bit, honestly this shit is going to destroy western society at this rate.

The West is fucked up. I originally came from Eastern Europe, and honestly thinking about moving back after I finish Uni and save up a bit to buy a home straight away.

I don't think there is a way to roll back their rights, especially with big companies like Google who have a lot of influence already being taken over by SJWs. The only real way would be to have another World War, so that it goes back to what happened in the UK with women _having_ to do men's jobs (as lives are just too easy for them today).

But that's an insane idea that shouldn't even be proposed (for obvious reasons), just a hypothetical here.

I think we just need to adjust our approach. Calling to remove female voting rights etc is just impossible. They turn a profit for the machine so they are never going back to housework en masse again. But each generation will adjust to the new conditions. Eventually guys and girls will be aware of the new rules and play the game better. We need to vet women better and call bullshit on things like unrestricted social media use in relationships, possibly to the degree of not even considering women who use Instagram, etc. Eventually women will get the picture and start adapting to the new preferences. You can see it start with the "trad girl" bullshit. The more clever online women are trying to be chaste in order to snag a guy above their social class. Anyways I'm saying stay hopeful and get creative with your relationship dynamics. It's different for every couple but you can be direct about what you need her to do to be with you. Either way, you have to be realistic. If this is the collapse of a civilization you have no power to stop it, and whoever breeds under these difficult conditions gets to shape the future

I agree, apart from having no power to stop it. There is always something an individual can do, thinking otherwise is just belittling your value in society. But yeah, starting with yourself and trying to filter women/teach your children better is a good first step.

Well at least you can escape.

You can still probably find someone who didn't grow up in western culture, and has at least some of the "older" values.

I'd be the best option is to get a mail order bride and move her to a developing country like uruguay.

Unless this is bait, I would be very careful about importing someone, and they could just be gold diggers, looking to upgrade their citizenship.

Thats the gamble, you either get someone who actually ends up liking you and appreciating what you are or get fucked.

which is why you don't import them to america or other developed nations. You take them out of a poor country and put them in a slightly less poor country. Granted this would only work if your work skills are good enough. Another fantastic option is to meme remotely and move to the country that has the women you want but that meme pool is saturated.

Heres the thing. There are women with older values, but older values dont stick because it's currently not hip. You'll see in women's friendships that usually the slutty one will try to corrupt the average or morally good one for one night of sin. After that it's a slippery slope of experimentation and throw away relationships till it's far too late. Notice how women in their 30+ are far more fucking humble because they know that party girl slut lifestyle gets old, unfortunately because they participated in it, they are no better candidates. It's like finding a cow without milk.

I totally agree. That's why you should find happiness with yourself first, and then if you happen to find someone decent along the way, even better.
Feel like too many people focus on finding happiness in others, when it can be achieved on your own. You are your best friend.

Yep, this is hitting like a ton of bricks after she broke up with me today. At the end of the day I literally only have myself. My parents wont be around forever and my friends have their own lives and I've realized that I date to fill voids rather than being happy and letting that happy attract someone. I'm so sad that I let a year and half of my time be wasted but its shown me that I need to focus on me, I'm 28 and time is running out.

I wouldn't think about it as wasted time. You probably enjoyed being with her and having her around. Like all things, there is always an end. And I think the journey is just as important as where you end up.

As for now, you need something to fill the gap that your gf has left so you aren't sitting around all day depressed. Pick up a hobby, or do something you never had time for, maybe something from your bucket list, maybe get a pet.
Don't let this negativity consume you. I wish you all the best.

Got dumped a month and a half ago, it still stings viciously. Reason's were about the same, pretty sure she just got up to no good at a party and used every excuse in the book. She had the decency to not ask for a break though at least and (much to my chagrin) was very final with her words.

At the end of the day, people get bored and then someone else comes along. In my case we'd been together 2.5 years thick and thin and about six months ago she finally got the tattoo job she's been after. Eventually I got the suspicion she didn't like me mingling with her new cool tattoo/skater friends and as far as I'm concerned, she just decided to jump to a more interesting group of people. She was full of excuses ranging from things being my fault to some of it being her own etc etc but at the end of the day I think she just found other people more interesting and that was that.
It's hard to compete with a bunch of fun drug abusing (I'm not even against drugs btw, I've been there and done that though), drinking every second night tattooist degenerates.
Things had been getting a little stale but that's what happens at the 2-3 year mark, it's just how it is and you come out the other side better for it.

After the first couple of paragraphs I was understanding and thinking you should support her taking to someone. After reading the whole thing, you need to dump her man. Her actions are not acceptable. Even if she reverts back and becomes be the best girlfriend in the world and apologizes you can't allow yourself to be chucked like that. You're hesitant let it go but you need to.

After everything she did I couldn't rationalize supporting her as it would nuke my own self esteem as well as how people see me especially her.

It's insane, we built a life together and we were only a few months having our own place, and she does this.

It's insane to me that anyone would throw away all of our potential and plans for what? Rolling the dice with another person when she had something good in her hands already.

The worst part is loosing the extended family I had in her family, but that's gone now as well. I didn't just loose her but people that felt more like parents to me than my own.

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Bingo.

Yep. I was sad as hell when I realized I couldnt chat and shoot the shit with her mom anymore

Such an attractive attitude