How can bernie ever recover?

Bravo, now he looks more retarded than a commie.
What a disgusting piece of shit.

Health isn't nearly similar to a piece of furniture.

Healthcare is a commodity.

bens turning me socialist desu, what a dumb faggot answer

Who the fuck is his audience, even? He's a shifty, transparent cocksucker, how can anyone take him seriously?

643,000 people declare bankruptcy every year due to insane medical costs in the US. Your line of thinking is so lazy it's kind of sad. We pay far more money for worse healthcare and you think it's a good thing because fuck poor people lol.

Me too

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>Tfw can't say Ben's argument is total shit without getting called a cuck
What happened to honest discourse?

Define "healthcare"

Define "commodity"

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>Furniture = Healthcare

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Apparently children on youtube think that a 35 year old man 'debating' dumbass 18 year old undergrads is peak entertainment.

Shapiro is easily the most influential young conservative voice. He has millions of daily listeners and is shaping the future of American conservatism by owning libs

I dont have the money to pay my medical bills, I will die before they ever see one cent of them from me

Fuck them, and fuck you

Imagine a piece of furniture that kills you if you don’t buy it.

>don't sit fancy chair
>die

It's just not a good argument even if you agree with the point he is trying to make.

>643,000 people declare bankruptcy every year due to insane medical costs in the US
I wonder what the deal is with that.

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>Why is food cheap in the US and there is virtually no starvation in our country? It's because of the free market.
>what are farm subsidies

Healthcare isn't a right. If it requires somebody else to do something for you it's not a right. You don't have to hire a free speech expert when you want to exercise free speech. You don't need a right to bear arms-ologist if you want to bear arms. But you do need a doctor if you want access to healthcare.

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literally this. not sure which one is worse actor.

The pertinent question is what social class doctors should belong to. Today they obviously belong to the bourgeois class and insofar that is justified who is to say they are not due money for their services of exchange. This follows from the quarternary division of time as it was primarily a faculty of the aristocratic leisure classes since somewhat before the Enlightenment. That is a harder answer to give, as their services were administered for money, honor, loyalty, a sense of moral or familial duty, depending on the circumstance. If, as in the golden era, things are as they should be, medicine belongs to the realm of the priest and is a gift of the gods bought with virtue and ritual adherence, the currency of the spirit.

>young conservative
>35

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Since when do they have low end doctors, that are cheaper than high end or " fancy " doctors?

Ben is too autistic to realize this argument has terrible appeal and is good for nothing.

Well, it's a good or service. Commodity may not be the best word for it.

This, I bet 45% of those bankruptcies are for tranny bullshit. Fuck libs

Yes yes yes yes this

Controlled opposition designed to make conservatives look bad,

but her service was "free" so, checkmate

>This is why I'm scared to tell people I'm trans
Well, thanks to these images, I'll know immediately that you're trans when I see your fucking disfigured mutant arms.

I think the solution to the healthcare problem, from a fre market perspective, is to allow people to enter into a form of indentured servitude if they cant pay

>If I close my eyes and imagine things I don’t like then they’re real

Brotherhood is a right you dirty individualistic piece of shit faggot

To be fair, I was in an accident and got taken for a ride. I didn't have health insurance, wound up with thousands of dollars of debt that I couldn't deal with right away. I tried to negotiate monthly payments but they wanted monthly installments that would've put me on the streets with the financial situation I was in.
I don't think single payer healthcare is the solution, but something has to change from where we are right now.

Imagine paying near 1 grand for generic antibiotics. Why isnt there a black market for medical supplies in the US?

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>The two freest markets in the world have basically no starvation either (Singapore and Hong Kong)
>Only for when market prices of good are low and famers don't make profit
Kill yourself

Good thing his brand of cuckservatism will die with boomers

>food analogy

Imagine if the government didn't have retarded patent laws, then maybe there would be cheaper products.

A right and duty by the way

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The fact that 35 year old Ben Shapiro advertizes himself as a “young conservative” supports this.

As long as we have money to fund everything else who cares?

Why do we offer libraries, fire departments, police departments etc for free then (inb4 hurr not free)
Also if you unironically think that picture is a good argument then youre retarded. If you die from leukemia then getting treated a couple months before isnt gonna do shit

>Only for when market prices of good are low and famers don't make profit
That's every year you jewophile.

>I bet

I love how you guys can pull conclusions completely out of your ass. Do you have any idea what you're talking about? That 45% number came out of thin fucking air and you know it.

But actually doing research and confronting your own cognitive dissonance is difficult, so I understand. It's ok little guy.

>Instead of paying directly for my own healthcare I would rather pay more money through my taxes and let the government do whatever they want with that money!

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It's the price of innovation. No new medicines, treatments or medical technologies would be developed without American money. Leafs and yurofags are basically freeloading off us.

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What's wrong with being individualistic?

>Why do we offer libraries, fire departments, police departments etc for free then (inb4 hurr not free)
You are trying to argue things paid for by property taxes are socialist? That's fucking dumb.

healthcare is a benefit. even in universal healthcare countries it is a benefit funded through taxation. i don't see one can argue that people have rights to resources which are paid for by others. that isn't freedom.

Man, cheap goods every year? The horror!

we do offer free healthcare sweetie!
its called medicaid and medicare!

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It's gay

I wonder if when two jews have to pretend to hate each other to fool the goyim they later just laugh to themselves at the absurdity of it all.

>(inb4 hurr not free)
free at the point of use isn't free.

No it isnt. I dont owe somebody a fucking thing just because we are born in the same nation. Thats the best part of being an American:/Telling leeches to get fucked. Homeless people deserve to be destitute, heroin addicts deserve to be denied being saved if they OD. Fuck you, bum

>that picture
>Girl with leukemia dies at 18 waiting for a hospital bed
Meanwhile in the US that girl would have died at 1 after her parents couldn't afford cancer treatment

>If it requires somebody else to do something for you it's not a right.
Your constitution's sixth amendment says criminal defendants have the right to a lawyer

I don't hear people saying those things are rights or demanding that I give up my private book collection for the good of the public library.

Farm subsidies pay farmers to NOT grow food you fucking dummy

>no premiums
>no deductables
>no copayments
>tax increase
Is this difficult?

You're gay and you will burn in hell

Free markets undeniably do a lot of good things, but they are by no means a panacea. If something needs fixed, fix it, if your ideology blinds you from doing the right things in life, then it's time to pause and reflect.

Is he standing on a box or something?

By going to the one hospital in his state and waiting in line for 40 days and 40 nights for a diagnosis

If his wife's tits are anything like his sister's then I totally support her enslavement.

>XuusnrR4
Weren’t you in the Book of Mornon?

I want to enslave Ben Shapiro's wife and Rand Paul.

Get this: there are multiple types of subsidies. Paying not to grow is only for certain crops.

I sometimes forget that everyone on this board is 19 and has no fucking clue how anything works.

You fucking dummy.

Your faggot country is gay

Americans are absolutely retarded to ever defend their health care system

I guess that means there's a doctor shortage, why's that? Where's the magic of the marketplace?

>It's gay
go back to putting a glass dildo on notre dame you fucking frog

The free market will fix healthcare. I'm libertarian economically, but I also hate Jews and their bullshittery.

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He's a good entryway for getting into politcal debate, because if nothing else, he's a nasty debater with strong pilpul skills (forgot how to spell it, the Jew technique, you know the one).

It's easy to see why he'd be so impressionable on a lot of young and politically disenfranchised right wing people. Set a decent speak in a room full of uneducated and unexperienced young liberal students and watch him "own" them in one of those "rekt compilations" on youtube and you're sure to garner a crowd of admirers in no time. As long as you act confident, people will want to follow you. It's how I got into politics (though for me it was Milo interviews).

according to this logic calling police isn't a right either. or firefighters.
but somehow you live in a society that solved this problem for you and you don't have to enter credit card every time you need protection

No one is defending the current system in this thread you dumbass.

It wasn't always this much of a clusterfuck. Wish the damn Dems would have just left everything alone.

>If something needs fixed, fix it, if your ideology blinds you from doing the right things in life, then it's time to pause and reflect.
tell me whats wrong in healthcare with the country that has the best healthcare in the entire fucking world

You're required to declare bankruptcy to be eligible for financial assistance on those debts regardless of the actual amount.

>Access to basic healthcare is equivalent to access to designer products

wew

I hope you die in the next muslim arson attack, you freeloading piece of shit

Shapiro gets OWNED in EPIC SMACKDOWN!!!

Like a fucking Irishmen knows anything about preventing starvation

The sixth amendment means that they cannot hold a trial against you while refusing any legal advisor. Like, you have the right to seek legal advice. The amendment has nothing to do with court appointed public lawyers. That’s just a county perk like the firefighters and police. If you want some public doctors who are paid by the state, you can. But like the courts, they would incur fees. And like the court appointed lawyer, they probably won’t do a very good job.

Because a huge swath of the population can't use that amazing healthcare to fix their problems because most people can't afford to shell out tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of dollars even to save their own lives.

The issue isn't with healthcare being available, it's with paying for it.

You dumbass leafs probably think "right to privacy" is in the bill of rights.

Basically lazy drug addixts want to tax workers so they can get medicine to fix the shot they did to their bodies. Why would we help smokers, alcoholics, obese people or drug addicts?

It's too expensive, it's harming productivity. Extremely burdensome for employers.Catastrophic financial liabilities, especially on the working classes.

this you dumb fucking nigger leaf faggot

I hope you don't die in a hospital because you forgot your credit card you smelly cocksucking dildofucking degenerate

Are your parents assholes too? Is it a genetic thing?