Would you go back to Church for this Pope?

Not at all. Lenny's conservative impulse was a good one - he was genuinely disgusted with the hypocrisy and venality that infected the Church, and he was right to be. He had a very strong sense of showmanship, and he needed to use shock-and-awe tactics to get the Vatican establishment under his control before he could begin his real work. He also needed to let the public know that the Church would not continue to soften itself and bend to popular demand - the rules are written in stone, and you're either in it all the way, or you're out.

As the series goes on, he does not go back on that impulse. He just learns to see things with more nuance, and understand the unwanted negative consequences his "showmanship" can cause for people who aren't dealing with the big picture like he is - the young priest's suicide, and Dussolier succumbing to his vices and ending up dead. He doesn't change his stance, he just learns the importance of timing and sensitivity in making the changes he wants to see.

I think one of the best parts of the series comes in episode 9, when they draw a contrast between Gutierrez and Kurtwell. They're both homosexuals. But Gutierrez is not a hypocrite, he appears to honor his vow of chastity in the same way a heterosexual priest would be expected to. He can't necessarily control his thoughts or impulses, but he's in full control of his actions, he's a good Christian and a valuable, trustworthy friend and advisor to Lenny.

>Continued

Kurtwell is a corrupt, power-abusing hypocrite who breaks his vows at every available opportunity. And yet, they can't obtain genuine evidence of child abuse to excommunicate him, only homosexuality. Lenny can't kick Kurtwell out, AND keep Gutierrez, without becoming a hypocrite himself. By this point in the series, he's "New Testament Lenny," so he chooses love and forgiveness rather than smiting a sinner. He softens his stance on homosexuality just enough to keep Gutierrez in the Church, which means he has to keep Kurtwell too. The worst he can do is banish him to Alaska.

It's all about the importance of practicing what you preach. For someone in Lenny's position, the worst possible sin is hypocrisy. It's also about his experience of learning how every issue becomes more complicated the further your influence expands, and learning to truly follow the teachings of Christ on love and forgiveness for fellow man.

ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

He's the kind of Pope we need. I could see a guy like him overturning Vatican II.

I'd unironically support a negro pope if it was Sarah.

All the African bishops are more or less like Sarah. If they were pozzed they would be killed.

I dont watch talmudivision programming so I dont know anything about this show, or any show.

Presumably he is depicted as a relatively traditionalist, especially compared to the total apostasy of vatican 2, as I can see from his adorning the papal triple crown (which was given to a jew by the sodomite montini).

In any case the universal apostasy has no return. The eclipse is in full and the only thing to look forward to is the final conflagration with the return of Jesus Christ.

It's a really addictive show but it's also propaganda.
>Conservative, traditionalist Pope
>make him out to be an ego maniac
>make him out to not actually believe in God
If you can get past the obvious propaganda it's an entertaining show.

Yes. I'd become christian and get baptised for this pope.

That sounds about and pozzed and zogged as I would expect it to be from the old talmidivision. Garbage.

Pretty much, although it's sometimes worth watching for scenes like the OP posted.

The cinematography seems nice, but I am done with jewish tricks.

Quality posts lad

I can understand completely.

Thanks

Bamp

This would be more effective at half the length. Prolixity is weakness; brevity is strength.

Yes

The jews had the social desire to dominatr others in their religion but other tribes were not submissive and could conquer or defeat them ao they created the anti roman religion of jewish submission Christianity this was labeled subversive and was punished by death

Only church id go to is a demolished one

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The Kingdom of Israel emerged as an important local power by the 10th century BCE before falling to the Neo-Assyrian Empire in 722 BCE. Israel's southern neighbor, the Kingdom of Judah, emerged in the 8th or 9th century BCE and later became a client state of first the Neo-Assyrian Empire and then the Neo-Babylonian Empire before a revolt against the latter led to its destruction in 586 BCE.

ayo who da fuk dis dude oh no no no no etc.

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Yes

An Eastern Catholic.

I will be at Church regardless, though God willing we receive a strong Pope.

A Schismatic

Probably.

The Sith.

I usually have sift through /tg/ to find this kind of quality post. rare indeed.

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>leaving the church because the pope sucks
Gay. But I would be fucking stoked if pic related was what the pope was like

Absolutely. This would save the West.

>schismatic
>cardinal
No. He is an eastern rite Catholic

jude law is BASED kys

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>Trusting a negro
The white race is doomed, you keep believing in words, false words, someone can say whatever the fuck he wants, it is not true, if negroes get to the power they will go after your white ass, stop believing in them.

Jude law is a faggot who plays a based pope on tv

youtube.com/watch?v=e3qBUdxHphk

are you fucking GAY?!

I would go back to the church if It would make it's mariology optional and return the pope to being simply the bishop of Rome rather than a stand-in for Jesus Christ Himself

>marioligy optional
It actually is user

So if I believe that Mary wasn't sinless, or that she didn't get assumed into Heaven, I can still be Catholic?

You would not be. The immaculate conception and assumption of Mary are dogmatic.

>calling a Chad a fag.

lmao, how much incel can YOU be?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Is that Eminem?!?

Yeah. I would love to be part of something like the Catholic church (sans mind-blowing corruption) but it just has too many doctrinal problems for me

yes

my family hasn't been catholic in over four hundred years

but yes

too many fucking moolies in that room

What is your problem with these doctrines anyway? And by what authority would you even have problems with them?

They are attached to the gospel but the Holy Spirit didn't inspire the New Testament authors to write about them. In fact the New Testament seems to contradict them by not referring to them at all when they would be monumentally important if true. I don't see why if I put my faith in Christ, who is the centural focus of the New Testament, that doctrines about Mary, etc. are required. As for authority, the Pharisees thought they had the authority to elevate traditions to the level of scripture as well.

As for "you wouldn't even have a scripture without the authority of the church canonizing it--" scripture became canon because the collection of writings we have called "The New Testament" were universally accepted by the worldwide church. Canon wasn't "revealed" into existence.

Kek. Best post I’ve come across on /tg/ was shitflinging about 40k

I think that your problem with Catholicism might be a little more fundamental than this or that doctrine.

Since you more or less reject Apostolic Tradition and authority, after all if the Church is indeed in possession of the deposit of faith and has the God given charisma's to clarify it and defend it, then these Marian doctrines should be no problem to accept, right?

As this stuff about the Pharisees, my response is this: Christ did recognize the authority of the Pharisees and the seat of Moses,

“The scribes and Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3So practice and observe everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. 4They tie up heavy, burdensome loads and lay them on men’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them

Suck my toes, fag!

The only church I could get behind at this point is one where the pope DEMANDS the death penalty for pedos in every country on God's green Earth.

only if he hates fags and wants to kill the muslim heretics

>Christ did recognize the authority of the Pharisees and the seat of Moses,
They filled an old covenant office. Much of what the Catholic church was not established in the New Covenant, but was "revealed" over time. And even though the pharisees were in a legitimate office, they were still condemned by Christ for placing their oral traditions at the level of revelation by God. And Jesus used scripture to correct them.

Please keep in mind I don't think that Catholics are not Christians or not saved or anything like that. Some of the most profoundly thoughtful Christians have been Roman Catholics. My problem is with the additional prerequisites which to me seem like they should have been optional. Something to speculate on, debate about, but not to divine the church over.

I’m already a practicing Catholic, and most of what he’s proposing would be against the spirit of the Church. The Church isn’t some gnostic entity fit for a few. He hits on some decent points about the Church not being a popularity contest, but his medievalist sentiment is misplaced. Bear in mind, the first time I watched his address to the cardinals, I found him making sense, but on thinking of it more, it doesn’t hold water.

So you don't believe that Jesus established, say a seat of Peter? I think there's much in the way of scriptural evidence and historic evidence to suggest that that the Church Jesus founded was based around Apostolic authority and Peter and his office has a special role.

I mean you look at verses like this:

Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah! For this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by My Father in heaven. 18And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it. 19I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”

Or the Churches prior to the Protestant revolution, like the Catholic Church, Coptic Church, Eastern Orthodox, Ethiopian and they all believe in this Apostolic priesthood.

>Jesus crucified 30 A.D by popular demand of Jews
>Pauline Epistles written between 50 A.D (Thessalonians) and 67 A.D (2 Timothy)
>Christian groups present in almost every major city in the Empire by now
>Judean Revolt begun 68 A.D
>2nd temple destroyed 70 A.D

>Christianity is a Jewish weapon to subvert the romans

Oh no, it's retarded

>kisses nigger mudslime feet

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Stop

Bamp

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That show has shit tier theology.