Not every good looking guy is charismatic

Not every good looking guy is charismatic
but is it accurate to say that every charismatic guy is good looking?

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>but is it accurate to say that every charismatic guy is good looking?
there isn't a single person on earth who truly believes this.

how "charismatic" and "non-creepy" you are depends literally entirely on how you look.

Abraham Lincoln

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Yeah, it is.

It's definitely possible to be charismatic and ugly, it's just a much narrower line. I've met dozens of dudes who are like that - if people think they don't exist, they're either not interested in men or they've got an agenda to sell you.

You read that wrong op is asking if charismatic people are all handsome
Not if ugly people can be charismatic

Either way look up Winston Churchill

In short don't be ugly loser.

>how "charismatic" and "non-creepy" you are depends literally entirely on how you look.
Looks factors in, but mostly for understandable reasons like hygiene and how well kept you are. If you look like the left guy in the above picture than why would anyone not look at you like a disgusting cretin? All that shows is that you don't care about yourself and have disgusting hygiene.

Autism/social skills factor in much more. Charisma assumes you're decent in the social department and can pick up on social cues.

So if you're an ugly bastard, but you look after yourself and you have decent social skills, then no, you won't be called a creep. You probably won't be picking up 9/10s either, but you won't be someone everyone will want to avoid.

Dude what you are posting are too extreme for a compelling argument. The first guy doesn't have the genes but neither the will. He doesn't respect himself or take cares of himself at all. He doesn't watch what he eats which can be plain too see by his complexion and fat. He doesn't work out, again can be seen by complexion and fat. He doesn't have a good hygiene which can be seen by complexion and hair. Of course society will judge him differently. Genes are one thing but being lazy and nothing giving a shit is very different. If he would put in some effort he might not be a 10 but he would certainly be able to reach a 7. Why would anyone have respect for him if he doesn't respect himself first. Stop with the bullshit memes that people are cursed by bad genes. They're cursed by being lazy and they're too retarded to acknowledge it so they try to play the victim and find a scape goat.

The most charismatic guy I know looks like shit

My father was extremely charismatic and he was a fat fuck

Unattractive guys can have confidence. Charisma = confidence + attractiveness + charm

Fuck no. On of my best friends is a fucking mess. He doesn't shower often enough. He's 6'4", sure, but he's 500 pounds and hasn't seen the inside of a gym in years. He has a skin condition. Dude is closer to 40 than 30 and still lives with his parents. He hasn't had a real job in five or six years. On paper, he's got nothing going for him, but he's charismatic as fuck and plays music so he's almost always got a couple of girls he can call. Are they 10s? No. Are they out of his, admittedly very poor, league? Universally.

>how "charismatic" and "non-creepy" you are depends literally entirely on how you look.

"Entirely" is a stretch and I think you're confusing the direction of the effect. When women say someone is "creepy" they mean that a person makes them uncomfortable. Its a combination of unwanted attention, boundary violations, and poor social skills. A very attractive man is almost certain to not be unwanted attention, at least early on, and is more likely to be forgiven for boundary violations or social missteps. Ugly guys aren't keyed as creepier because they're ugly, they just don't get any latitude for mistakes or bad behavior.

That might sound like a subtle distinction, but its the key to understanding how social interactions go sideways if you aren't in the 99th percentile. Most of this incel shit is, when you really look at interactions up close, guys with poor social skills and a sense of entitlement shooting themselves in the foot because mommy told them they were the most handsomest boy in the whole wide world. Changing their behavior means admitting that they're not immediately and overwhelmingly desirable, and their own unrealistic standards means that if they admit that they must be garbage. Thats too much of an ego blow, though, so it must be that women are whores. That, in turn, lets them avoid having to display any insight or work towards any change because it would be a losing proposition anyway.

Nope. Tons of charismatic people, and leaders throughout history is not good looking. People just think they are connected by default.

Certainly not. Hitler was never good looking. Trump wasnt very good looking. Rodney Dangerfield. Jerry Seinfeld. Charismatic individuals with little in terms of physically attractive traits. That list could be expanded for a long, long time.

Exactly, look at Mussolini, Humphrey Bogart, Ricky Gervais, fucking Danny DeVito.

the guy in the picture got married. you literally have no excuse.

Not at all. Good friend of mine is a fat, ugly manlet with glasses. As long as I've known him he's always got more ass than a public toilet seat because he carries himself with confidence and can talk till he's blue in the face to literally anyone. I'm nearly his polar opposite, good looking but quiet and reserved. Women think I'm "mysterious" or something, and I'm quite popular with them despite my autism. I guarantee though that if you combined my personality with his looks you'd have an absolute incel. I suppose the lesson here is if you're ugly you better really work at being fun to be around.

Someone post the article of the Asian guy who asked a girl out and was arrested and interrogated for five hours.

Judging by the number of attractive robots before they disallowed selfies on Jow Forums-- fuck no

Based schizo.
>is it accurate to say that every charismatic guy is good looking?
Hell fucking no. Haven’t you ever met a funny fat guy? Abe Lincoln was hideous for his time.

no he didn't.

No. One of the most charismatic guys I know looks like the very definition of a neckbeard. I don't think one is linked to the other, but a charismatic person might be able to appear more good looking through their general demeanor.