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Look at comments in this video for example, especially this:
"I'm on the Right Wing. I'm not a racist. I believe in treating/judging people as individuals. I'm a mainstream conservative, and I can confidently say that >95% of Conservatives condemn bigotry and racism."
When they will fucking get that race matters and that's what shapes a nation? Did civic nationalism work in South Africa, Rhodesia and Haiti?
Other urls found in this thread:
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thecommonwealth.org
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By understanding the holohoax psyop and what jews have done to the West post-WW2.
Read through this thread, it's all there.
Use this info to redpill others. Redpilling normies is the ONLY battle that matters now. Redpill them and the rest will work itself out.
What is a foundation myth?
en.wikipedia.org
It fulfills three functions.
1) It explains the origin and structure of the world (and society).
2) It defines ultimate good and evil (and from those definitions are derived the values that are used to justify the holding of power).
3) It determines what is held sacred in that society.
For modern Westerners the story of WWII has become their foundation myth. It fulfils all three functions.
1) We live in the ‘Post-War World’. The lines on the map, the institutions, the sense of what era we live in, all arise from the starting point of WWII.
2) "Ultimate evil" is Nazis. "Ultimate good" is opposing Nazis. The values derived from these definitions are anti-racism, equality, diversity, anti-nationalism and so on.
3) The only thing that is held sacred, that cannot be denied or mocked in the contemporary West, is the Holocaust.
The problem is that all three functions are backwards or negative.
Instead of the origin event being one of fertility and new life, it was a conflagration of death and destruction.
Instead of ultimate good taking the central position in the story that slot is occupied by ultimate evil. Everyone knows that Adolf Hitler, the "personification of evil", holds the center point of the WWII story.
Instead of that which is held sacred being something mysterious and sublime it (the Holocaust) is an obscenity.
**Having a negative foundation myth means the tree of life for Westerners is poisoned**
This is by jew design.
Civnats believe race matters but not that race is like in an rpg where all members of a race have different int levels lmao
Most people are "civnat" only because they refuse to renegade against the ((System)),since there is no bigger crime in Western Society no "greater evil" than being a "racist".In other words their minds are held hostage.
no, we're civnat for the same reason people don't try to sprint as they would on land in a swimming race. In the confines of the political game, being civnat is the only way to get anywhere.
A ride on that bicycle around the blocks a few times would be a great start
BIG FUCKING FAT FULL FUCKING TITS.
THAT IS ALL.
That's false being a civnat is basically playing by the Leftist's rules.Not a single problem will be solved by Civic Nationalism.The only thing that Civic Cuckoism does is give and strengthen White people's Stockholm's Syndrome towards ethnic minorities.
>be britbong
>want out of the EU
>EU isn't the whole problem but leaving is a necessary step on the path to uncuckening
>Brexit Party/UKIP are civnat and the only leave parties
are you telling me I shouldn't support them and just give up? Honestly I wish politics was as simple as you put it but it just isn't
Well I don't know.A lot of Britain's immigration problems are actually caused by the expanded Common wealth:
thecommonwealth.org
Look at all these nigger countries.EU immigrants are from Eastern Europe(Polish,Romanians,Bulgarians and Gypsies).But the Shitskin epidemic of your country is not caused by the EU it was caused by your cuck politicians on both the ((left)) and the ((right)).
Gib milkies
Gib sauce nibba
Civnats are basically centrists, they don't have any actual views or opinions.
>walking towards your death vs running
How about instead of trying to redpill bourgy civnats you try to recruit among based white trash in trailer parks and prisons? Most of them already believe in Illuminati and 9/11 was an inside job so telling them about the Jews cant be too hard
I think Jared Taylor's way is the only and best way.But Civ nationalism creates axioms in society that are contrary to our beliefs/white people's interests.
I do judge people as individuals; it's just that the outcome is about the same as if I had been a racist.
just nod really enthusiastically and go "OH YEEAAH? CIVIC NATIONALIST? THAT'S GREAT"
NEVER post a picture or video more interesting than the topic that you wish to discuss. YES, their are some that are objectively more interesting than others. Examples would be a picture/video of tits or penguins. Hopefully you will remember this for the next occasion that you decide to make a thread.
Stop watching porn
>When they will fucking get that race matters and that's what shapes a nation
>We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men
The idea that government is about values and not race is baked into the founding of America
and if you read further in the deceleration of Independence. The founding fathers wanted more immigration
>He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
To recognize that race matters means abandoning the founding fathers. This is hurdle that must be overcome.
Tim's audience are complete cucks. Tim is almost a confirmed zionist stooge at this point.
Civnats are potential white nationalists that have yet to discover race realism and the JQ. Cuckservatives are addicted to the same feel-good niave conflict averse attitude that creates liberals. They are also extremely greedy, cowardly, and individualistic so they are a lost cause for the most part.
If you can get Civnats to see that the mass importation of non-whites is being done deliberately, and with hostile intent then many will flip.
By explaining to them the realities of race realism, and pointing out that anti-white racism is increasing as whites become more and more of a minority.
Same dude
THIS!!!
Tell them on an micro scale you judge people as individuals, but on a macro scale you need to judge groups of people according to their IQ and potential harm to society.
Take blacks and chinks for example. One causes an absurd amount of crime per proportion of the population and the other causes 100 BILLION annually in corporate profit losses because of IP and technology theft.
You might meet a few "based niggers" or chinks that appear to be friendly and honesty, but overall society is better off without both.
Spread info like Jared Taylor, RedIceTv, No White Guilt, Mark Collett, Lacey Lynn, Blonde in the belly of the beast, Civic Nationalist watch them and get converted.
Wrong. You dumb faggots are civnats because you don't understand the JQ and the fact that these races will NEVER play nice with you.
Fight or perish. Stop being a pussy.
The country was founded for white Europeans.
>The country was founded for white Europeans.
No. It was founded for enlightenment values. Read The Deceleration on Independence
Blacks were normalized Human in Constitutions because of 3/5ths Compromise.
I've come to dislike civic nationalists more than marxists. It's borderline cowardice as far as I'm concerned.
It was founded on (((enlightenment))) values and Judeo-Masonry
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Civnats are like christcucks. They cant be reasoned with. Their only solution it to get spics,muslims, niggers, and gooks to "vote republican harder" by pandering. Dont worry anons the white race is dying but as long as the spcis, muslims, and other shitskins vote republican all will be well.
>It was founded on (((enlightenment))) values and Judeo-Masonry
it's the other way around.
The enlightenment values are what corrupted orthodox Jews, who hate homosexuality and race mixing, into reform Jews, that love homosexuality and race mixing.
Jews accelerated the stupidity of the founding fathers.
>its about values not race
But what happens when the one race has radically different values than another race. Of course on an individual level averages don't matter and there is overlap between races but when you scale that up the differences can't be ignored.
>But what happens when the one race has radically different values than another race. Of course on an individual level averages don't matter and there is overlap between races but when you scale that up the differences can't be ignored.
I completely agree.
You are preaching to the choir.
My point is the founding fathers and their values damned America to civic nationalism.
To say race matters means abandoning them.
Most cuckservatives have said the talking points so many times that they cannot think outside muh Constitution and muh deceleration of independence.
show them how races vote. when they see irrefutable proof that the other races are basically voting for gibs and to take free speech away, they should start waking up. maybe talk to them about how the U.S. Constitution has been copied by several hundred nations and most of them suck fucking cock and have no guns or freedom of speech. You need to hammer home that people make up a culture, you can't just replace people and expect the culture to stay the same. point out how fucking retarded they are for thinking that Muslims should just quitting being Muslim and we'll all get along. Islam is about refusing to submit to anything but Islam, these people are naive and are going to get us genocided and replaced.
>tfw most Québécois are racist to both non-whites and anglos
Feels good man.
I would love to see what you look like. either you're a kike or a goblino; maybe even a goblino kike
I dont want civnats to join the white nationalist movement. They will ruin it with their cuckservative views. We need to recruit the conspiracy-minded populist poor whites who don't vote
>I would love to see what you look like. either you're a kike or a goblino; maybe even a goblino kike
slav-mutt
i'm not a goblini
my point is civic nat is built into founding of america and to go against it means building a new nation
also i don't like the idea of "white nationalism"
I can tell a difference between german americans and scot-irish americans
if you say race matters, WHICH I DO
then you will identify with your race, not with the white label.
I'm a slav, not an anglo or german or scot-irish.
race nationalism will destroy america just like civic nationalism.
What really screwed us over was the immigration act of 1965 and putting all the minorities on welfare. If we could have kept the country around 80% white most of these problems would be non issues.
you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink
if you go full 14/88 on a normie they will physically recoil and ignore any reasonable argument you might have.
>Here let me put these unidentified berries I picked on the side on the road into the fruit salad. Bon appetit! Wha- No sweetie please this is a FRUIT salad. Stop whining.
en.wikipedia.org
Part of conservatism is promoting white culture. It's baked in anyways, that's why they voted for Trump's wall. They see the type of people coming in who don't hold our values. There's no point in shilling against conservatives, they are allies.
No. A few people on the fringes of conservatism may be allies. The zio boomer scum need to die off fast
Well OP, I'm a civic nationalist and I'm over here wondering how I deprogram someone who's hopped up on insane conspiracy theories.
t. boomer
>What really screwed us over was the immigration act of 1965 and putting all the minorities on welfare. If we could have kept the country around 80% white most of these problems would be non issues.
This is Jow Forums group-think
The Scot-Irish were hated by the Anglos
>JFK: Pandered to Blacks & Cheated on Wife with original thot
>Reagan: Womanizer & No Fault Divorce
>Bill Clinton: Oral Sex
>Saint Patty's Day: Drunk Holiday
Look the Scot-Irish have been a net negative to American culture.
Italians
>Mafia Crime
The only reason the 65 act was approved was because Anglo culture was already diluted through prior immigration and they used (((nation of immigrants))) psyops to try create a new "white" label.
By admitting race matters, you go back to 1600 and 1700s and there will not be a "white label".
Well you're just retarded clearly, that why you reply with things like "zio cuck scum" like some neanderthal instead of debating reasonably. Maybe you should realize that some people are higher IQ than you and follow their lead.
>en.wikipedia.org
I'm well aware of that but it's not in the constitution and blacks were already normalized as humans and inhabitants of USA by the 3/5ths, much like illegal aliens today.
>Part of conservatism is promoting white culture. It's baked in anyways, that's why they voted for Trump's wall. They see the type of people coming in who don't hold our values. There's no point in shilling against conservatives, they are allies.
>our values
Okay so we just brainwash them to hold (((values)))
See the problem with defending values over race?
As I said before,/ourguys/ are poor white people who don't vote, know the whole system is fucked and believe the government did 9/11. Redpilling them about Jews is very easy. Boomers who worship Israel AREN'T /ourguys/
There are more social issues to be concerned with. Note the various studies that conclude multiracialism destroys the community and lowers trust/involvement.
you are the one who believes in the conspiracy theory of multiculturalism. do you have any proof it provides any benefits to the host nation?
>theories
More immersive cultural enrichment, less cuckservative thinkers misquoting Locke and huffing their own farts
Step number 1 is always stop whiteknighting for them when based black men and other potential patriots enrich their lives with vibrant diversity
The situation in south Africa, Zimbabwe and Haiti is more complicated than muh race realism. I'm Nigerian myself, it's more of corruption and excessive money laundering that fucks up those black nations. Besides those blacks natives in those colonized countries don't want white people determining their nation's self determination.
>. The situation in south Africa, Zimbabwe and Haiti is more complicated than muh race realism. I'm Nigerian myself, it's more of corruption and excessive money laundering that fucks up those black nations.
people fight over resources, this is how racism manifests in real life.
> Besides those blacks natives in those colonized countries don't want white people determining their nation's self determination.
this is what always occurs when you mix 2 races into the same location
people fight for power and control
everyone has to share the same governments, the same corporations, the same schools, etc.
people fight to control these institutions.
the problem is the liberals teach racism is just hate, truth is that's just the natural outcome of mixing races and people who have that inherent hate are the smartest because they prevent these problems from occurring.
>corruption
This is the favorite boogeyman answer of Africans that have a triple digit IQ. Maybe, just maybe, it has more to do with most of your countrymen being idiots, at far greater rates than most other nations.
destroy those confines idiot
Civicuckism is only practiced by shitskins, mutts, and boomer migatards from t_D
the good thing is that boomers will all die off within 5-10 years time, and NatSoc/Fascism will rise like never before among the white youth.
Pic related
fuck off back to t_D nigger living Civnatcuck
Also fags, trannies and various degenerates who don on a hat or some dated meme symbol and think they're saving Western civilization now
niggers were never given status as being equal to whites you fucking nigger
niggers were thought of as subhuman shitskins until the (((Civil War))) and the cucks in the north giving the niggers freedom. We should've never EVER have given them freedom nor citizenship, we should've sent them all back to apefrica where they belong. Now look at the state of our nation.
In a few years, Texas will be blue and conservatives literally won't be a thing
in the 2000 elections, hispanics voted around 49% republican....
>fuck off back to t_D nigger living Civnatcuck
already answered that dumbass
>I'm well aware of that but it's not in the constitution and blacks were already normalized as humans and inhabitants of USA by the 3/5ths, much like illegal aliens today.
"VRUUL8f"
nice
>niggers were thought of as subhuman shitskins until the (((Civil War))) and the cucks in the north giving the niggers freedom. We should've never EVER have given them freedom nor citizenship, we should've sent them all back to apefrica where they belong. Now look at the state of our nation.
>subhumans
so they were viewed as HUMANS
really easy to go from subhumans to full humans
>and your fucking "all men are created equal" effectively forced niggers to be given citizenship because their niggerness could be fixed through white savior education.
I agree with this. Civic nationalism is just a ways from true enlightenment. This is particularly the reason jews are at the forefront of this movement, strategically placing gatekeepers like ben shekelpiro and juden peterstien who convict anyone right of them as "reprehensible individuals."
In all honesty, Im not white and I understand that race matters. Whites are complete cucks nowadays, a complete 180 from the once valiant, proud and prosperous nations they led to the edge of technological advancement and possessed superior nationhood pride. It puzzles me how Whites are so shameful and silent, all while jews and "minorities" trash their cultures, destroy their statues, invade their borders, and desecrate any movement for pride in their White European heritage. And what I see from conservatives today is completely disgraceful; they adopt a sense of multiculturalism and even advocate for "legal" immigration as if that conserves anything of your nation. Civic nationalism is not nationalism in the same way Social Justice is not Justice.
I hope westerners really get a hold on their country because the last thing we need is globalism and a movement for global migration- aka. everyone migrating to first world countries. I come from Morocco, which is a mainly secular country. I feel like American Whites and Middle-Eastern countries could really form a pact to end global zionism and respect each others' borders. Every single democratically elected government we see in the middle east focused on protecting their borders and securing the prosperity of their nation is consistently shoah'd. Take for example Gaddafi who wanted to make his country great again. He was dragged through the mud as a sexual abuser and a ruthless dictator.
Its almost as if these jews want migrants from the middle east into the west to both destroy the west and steal our resources. Immigration should be immediately be halted, for immigration into affluent countries is ruining them and tarnishing their nation pride, and also emigration from these countries is ruining them.
For white Christian or deist men you absolute dumbass.
why do jews start threads with fap material?
This bitch is fucking a nigger cock as we speak
Uhhh freeing the slaves was a political issue. He did it for votes and propaganda.
this. I like this.
There is an entire movement (you all know the fuck I'm talking about) going on right now based on the premise that civnat is the defining ideology that will break the bonds of "the system". Ironically, civnat is the exact same end goal of Zionists.
Ecept mentality is more important than race. So you are wrong
OK, so let's do this. Usury is dead, and the cabal "defeated". What next? We just pretend that things like the bell curve and cultural influence do not exist any longer? You do realize that after the "cabal is defeated", that typical mass media cultural influence isn't going to end, right? Who, might I ask, would be the people in control of that media? Same problems, different leadership.