What is the alternative solution to college and national debt?

Getting a job.
The big issue is that college has basically been fetishized and elevated to some kind of holy institution. It used to be that very few people went to college and you went there to get specialized knowledge. Over time things slowly degenerated so now college is just an additional level of schooling, that everyone feels entitled to.
This is why you need a high school diploma in some places to be a janitor and the education hurdle keeps rising for even entry level jobs. Because everyone has it so you just need to keep raising the bar. We now simply expect people to be in school until they're like 25-30 years old before they can start doing something with their lives, and it's either that or work at McDonalds or some shit and be looked down on by all the college kids, most of whom will probably not use those degrees and ultimately end up making less than a McDonalds manager.
And yet even though college has become this degenerate institution nobody takes seriously and just treats as High School 2, and you are expected to grind it just to have a middle class lifestyle only to lose your job anyway to a cheaper Indian/Chinaman and have to become a barista, you MUST go. You MUST go to college or you're a fucking loser or something, you will never be successful, you will do manual labor, whatever. The cultural pressure is insane. Just go and rack up that debt, goy.

tl;dr people need to just wake up and respect college less. Normies think going to college makes you superman but in reality it's just where dumbasses go to waste money and learn to be ANTIFA

This. Usury is debt slavery.

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I didn’t give up and go to college until after 10 years of being parasited on by temp services after my father died. Then it was a weird sort of “I know this won’t help me, but fuck them” kind of move. I unfortunately lived long enough to regret it.

End federal student loans and the federal reserve.

a usury-free system

The fuck? What'd you go for?

i'm following Poldark at the moment, for someone who never watches tv except for news and documentaries and macguyver, i like that show because it talks about these kind of stuff beside the rot in london.
It's set after the american revolutionary war

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Junior College is still cheap as fuck.
Lie about your gender and race and get scholarships.
Union jobs
Entrepreneur

Stop spending.

>college debt
When will students who realize that they have been conned by university and professors finally begin to burn down campuses? All the students want is their debt be passed on to the tax payer but they never go back to the university who sold them their scam degree is African-American studies.

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It's free in Oregon, where I'm at.

Shit degrees. PhD in history. In a way I was trying to wait out the Obama administration because things crashed hard here.

In hindsight, I was never academic material although intellectually speaking a retard could do history. I’m still just so disobedient and I don’t like many other people.

>doctoral degree in humanities
You're a meme but definitely qualified to be a barista.

I would have been fine earning 40k to teach junior college philosophy and history courses. Turns out though it’s not what you know but who. Same as ever.

>Lie about your gender and race and get scholarships.
I said I was a black female and got accepted to Yale pending interview. I interviewed and they just turned me away without any questions. Black females are the most privileged class of people on the face of the earth.

Aren't boomers the one advocating the whole college situation? God forbid you go and learn a trade instead of getting a degree.

A trade

>I would have been fine earning 40k to teach junior college philosophy and history courses.
You want to lure others into the trap you fell into? That's just cruel.

College debt: First, stop pumping the fucking bubble (ie wind down lending, aid, haircut existing loans, make everything dischargeable, etc).
Then come up with some loan forgiveness programs tied to community service, expanded peace corps, neo-TVA, whatever.
Then subsidize the immediate construction and accreditation of more institutions as competition for existing ones to lower prices over time and decentralize the system.
Add direct intervention if colleges refuse to cut down the bloated bureaucratic "administration" staffing, also require them to maintain a certain % of tenured positions instead of relying on non-tenured and temp staff.

National debt: good luck

of course they turned you away without question. it's evident that you're retarded as fuck from how you think any other outcome from you lying like a dumbass would've been possible

It depends. Our generation was lied to and we thought college was the only way to succeed in life. Meanwhile most boomers blame us for not "pulling ourselves up by the bootstraps" and getting manual labor jobs which are harder and harder to come by all while supporting a family.

Being your own boss.

Also, if you get a meme degree and go away to college to dorm then you deserve all that debt for being a brainlet

What, you don’t think preserving a people’s history is worthwhile? In some other age, under some other economic system, things might look a little different. I’m not trained to teach idpol studies.

But you are right about, if I knew then what I know now, that the entire edifice of our civilization is rotten..

>Then subsidize the immediate construction and accreditation of more institutions as competition for existing ones to lower prices over time and decentralize the system.
>Today, there are some 5,300 colleges and universities in the United States
I doubt that does the trick.

>forgiving college debt
No.

>What, you don’t think preserving a people’s history is worthwhile?
Of course I do, it's of utmost importance. What I don't beleive to be worth preserving is a possibility of study history to use it as a base for your carrer. Find your vocation, become self-sustaining, then take a course in history to broaden your point of view, if you can't find the infos in books or for free online without the need for college all together.

So then why is this retard posting the boomer meme in response to a post all about how college has an inflated reputation and people need to realize it's not everything?

The question is ever whether to engage and try to do something about it whether through legislation and violence, or opt out, preserve what is good, and let it all go on its own because it surely will.

I have children so right now I want to do the latter.

Never allowing baby boomers to run this country EVER again. Seriously, they are fucking financially incompetent regards who "buy" everything on credit.

Don’t max out your credit cards

I agree. The humanities are far better when they are not a professional vocation. Whomever pays for a product shapes its character. It’s the same reason why Vannevar Bush’s call for taxpayer funded basic research has produced mostly weaponry, even as spinoffs. We get identitarian humanities rather than objectivity-seeking work.

>Govt run the banks, which are for the people's use not usury.
This is a terrible idea. All that happens is increase in govt. bureaucracy, worse service, huge no. of employees on fat govt. payroll doing minimum work, govt. lending recklessly to show growth, no skin in the game to grow the business and to expand, corruption in loan dispersal process, more loans to corporations who may not be the best repayers as that's the easiest way to show growth etc.

I never anticipated witnessing every last bit of culture being infused with apparently intractable political dialectics. We have shit schools here for sure, but I was raised rurally in the upper lower class in a town with 300 people. I wanted to learn things, not be enslaved. Didn’t thoroughly see it coming, only thought I’d have to settle for never being rich.

No, you should be able to make a living off the humanities. The problem is that since everyone now has a right to college, the humanities has become a cesspool for faggots who can't cut it in anything real so they need to style themselves as "creatives," rather than being a place for genuinely culturally passionate people. There is no reason you should not be able to make a living as a historian, but the historians get pushed the fuck out and replaced by cabals of feminist poets and urban writers and whatever the fuck who do nothing but sling shit day in and day out about how the west is evil.

In my naive youth I saw humanities as an uninhabited niche. No one’s going into them because they require a PhD and offer low salaries, I believed. But I loved them, read those kinds of books all the time and had a talent for writing. No idea it was ground zero in a culture war and the bad guys were winning, that I’d be excluded for demographic reasons rather than accepted on merit. I was good at it too.

So now I need to rebuild my life from nothing and drag the loans around by my neck until I am dead. Okay.

It was either that or work as a temp. The parasite is always there no matter what. My mistake was believing I could work my way out of it.

I wanted to study theology and settled for engineering instead, simply because when I looked for how the markets are going to develop, they projected a huge shortage of engineers in the field I chose. For fun I searched for history related jobs on the job search I frequent and found a total of five open positions nationwide. Anyone who goes into that field knowing how the situation is can only be blamed for their downfall.

It was the same for me, I went to school because I wanted to study the classics but it was nothing but a soapbox for faggot professors to tell me how awful America was. Literally assigned the Communist Manifesto as reading. When I questioned it I was told to shut up because I don't have a PhD and they do. I thought it was just my school so I dropped out, went somewhere else, and it's just the same shit. Humanities is completely pozzed worldwide.
You are better off doing whatever you are doing now and writing in your spare time.

Some of are already at the bottom and we do it just trying to be human, not succumb to drugs, or suicide, or going to prison, whatever. I’d already tried to be a normal peasant but not even that was working. My labors were always adequate, I had good references and minimal vices, but I could never happen onto a situation where I wasn’t a contingency worker, or denied benefits, or laid off a few months in with 200 other people. Student loans were basically my welfare check during that time except I had to earn it. I’m not especially intelligent and never really wanted to be in college. I had a GED before all this. Anyway, it hardly matters now. I’ll be dead soon enough.

My undergrad major was fine, and the bacc courses were pozzed. Then in grad my major was again perfectly okay, but the minor was terrible. I put up with it but I started getting A- grades in a few classes because I grew more and more disagreeable. And then teaching got tedious because the kids were so incompetent it was unbelievable and I would get admonished for failing them or making harsh comments. It came over me quite slowly and I was starting to get shaky with time management because I read as many of the books from here as I could while doing all this. And my dissertation topics were hard to smooth out for the committee. Finally by the third one I was writing it for them, not for my career or my specialty. It was awful.