How do i avoid becoming an incel...

incel is a label that people arbitrarily slap on you these days, regardless of your personal beliefs. It's just a vague insult at this point.

incel means every single male virgin due to any reason apart from volcels and you know it roastie

Incel means the 0.001% of male virgins who are not volcels but choose to identify as incels.

Yeah "incel" isn't a literal definition. I'm sure there are 1000s of guys who genuinely believe they're involuntarily celibate but that's because they're lost, have low confidence and lack the will or direction to improve themselves. Do some people have an unfair advantage in the dating sweepstakes? Sure. That doesn't mean you can't get some of the action too if you work on yourself. If you try and get shot down, you learn from it and move on. But a lot of "incels" will take rejection to heart and rage against women/chad/society instead of looking at themselves. I think a genuine "incel" is someone with muscular dystrophy or something, and even that's not a given.

socialize a lot and have some female friends. incels just have a very skewed worldview and i think it not only comes from their insecurities but because they are also highly alienated from society and basically construct their own far fetched worldview with way too high beauty standards as a form of pessimism and self-victimization.
not a big deal that you are a virgin or shy. personally i think shyness is a liability and you should work to get rid of it. there is a lot to gain when you can just walk up to people and make many different kinds of friends. you gain a lot of life experience and perspective, which will also stop you from becoming an incel.
also stay away from sites are content that promote an incel mindset when you are vulnerable to it. e.g. Jow Forums. you shouldn't be on Jow Forums. many male losers on here with defeatist attitudes.

I love and believe in you

inceldom is the final form of the modern average male. asking how to avoid it is like asking Cell not to eat android 17 to become super cell. You NEED to realize your final form.

>Go on Tinder if you want to get laid
hahahaha, going on tinder is a sure way of realizing you are an incel

How many girls have you asked on date this year?

Change your life so the answer is never zero and you are all set to not be incel.

>Is there anything i can do?
- Realize that the rate of sexless men has tripled in the last decade (twitter.com/_cingraham/status/1111607604348805120?s=20)
- Realize the fact that there is absolutely nothing about incels that intrinsically makes them so, hence why this is happening to a large portion of the male population
- Realize that generic advice like and isn't meant to actually help you, it is simply to make you come to terms with the fact that you could very easily end up being alone for all of your youth and beyond.
- Realize that nobody really *cares* that such a massive amount of men are lonely, without relationships and without sex. They simply want those men to shut up and deal with it on their own. What angers people about incels is the fact that many incels are openly talking about the gender dynamics of the dating scene.

>I have 0% malice or hate towards any dude that wants affection & sex & and intimacy who hasn't been able to find a partner or a good match
Well of course. You are a female and never have to worry about dealing with such a thing. That is why you can safely ignore it, unless said men start talking about the way modern women are. That's when it really bothers you.

You are clueless if you think women aren't dealing with their own problems when it comes to dating and sex.

This is exactly the sort of poster you must avoid, OP. Literally everything he said is a lie. He wants to recruit you into his cult of incels.

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Everyone deals with their own problems when it comes to dating and sex. The problem of inceldom, however, is exclusively a male one. Extremely few women out there ever have to wonder if they will remain alone for their entire lives and die alone.

However, that is becoming a reality for a massive number of men.

Yes, you're right. Definitely. The cult of incels known as the General Social Survey, one of the biggest and most respected data surveying organizations in the nation.

Pretending it's not happening is certainly a way of trying to deal with facts.

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Not only are men aged 18-30 going through periods sexlessness at very high rates,

but the number of VIRGIN men aged 18-30 has gone up massively as well. the number of virgin men 18-30 has more than tripled in the last decade.

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28 here, kissless relationshipless virgin.
I agree with what that user said.
Nobody actually cares about men without relationship and sex.
In fact, they looked down upon them for being dysfunctional in society.

Soon i will be 30 and there's nothing me or you can do about it.

That's wht it used to be. Nowadays, incel is an all-encompassing buzzword for any male who's still a virgin after highschool.

It's not like that poster spouted baseless crap though, the data he posted seems credible and it backs up everything he said.

I'm not an incel in the traditional sense, I don't hate or blame women for my situation.

It's not so much the lack of sex that's ruining me, it's the crushing loneliness and not having anyone to share things with. Just being able to sit with a girl and watch a movie or play a game would make me happy beyond belief.

The girl I love is overseas and she loves me too, I know how much of a bad idea LDRs are, but I feel like it's the only way I'm going to experience what I'm looking for is going to visit her.

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By realizing sex in and of itself isn't that important. It's fun, sure. But you tend to overvalue it greatly when you're not getting it. I've personally been on both sides of the spectrum. I've been horribly sexually frustrated, and i've gotten laid extensively.

Once you figure out how to laid on a regular basis, you start to realize it's somewhat overhyped. Right now i have a FwB who i hook up with 1-2 times per week and sure it's fun. But i would gladly trade her in for a quality girlfriend who i actually like. Someone who i feel chemistry with and can build a serious relationship with. I've felt sexual desire, but i've never felt love for a particular girl. And that's what i personally crave much more than sex right now.

This will blow up in women's face so bad, kek. Can't wait.

That has very little to do with women though. It's almost entirely to do with the changes in male culture.

The only thing that's going to happen is that unattractive men will weed themselves out of the gene pool while others will keep having sex and relationships, congrats. Women don't owe you sex.

Will result in more shootings and rapes though whether you like it or not, roastie. TR3YWAY

Love how this thread went from "Everything incels say is bullshit, they are a cult, you'll be fine, just get therapy" to, after being shown hard data, "yeah ugly men will be bred out of the gene pool so what?" and "actually, is completely the fault of men"

Just a reminder to the OP and others in a similar situation that women do not care about what you are going through and 99% of the things they spew is just virtue signaling.

>Everything incels say is bullshit, they are a cult, you'll be fine, just get therapy" to, after being shown hard data, "yeah ugly men will be bred out of the gene pool so what?" and "actually, is completely the fault of men"

Not exclusive to each other.

This here.

Wow this person sure deserves love and affection, how have women been so blind this whole time

You have no counter arguments to anything presented besides "Yeah you'll die alone, so what?" and "It's all your own fault".

I think it's a perfect example of how sociopathic and narcissistic women are.

The majority of even ugly men will eventually reproduce. Women fuck attractive, hot guys extensively when they're in their early to mid twenties. But given that these attractive guys rarely commit to them, they will eventually feel forced to settle down with a less attractive male if they want to have kids and build a family.

This is what you see happen all the time. Some incel loser gets his first girlfriend at age 27, while the girl has slept with 10+ guys in the mean time but she 'got tired of the fuckboys and players' so she resorts to dating the sexually frustrated, but reliable and stable beta chump.

Alpha fucks, beta bucks.

I've actually had a gf for 6 months once. But right now, I'm definitely not better than other men who are suffering from loneliness like me. I'm just saying though that if millions of men are frustrated, something will happen and it's a beautiful thing. :)

Anyone who hasn't been able to connect with another person by the time he's 20 is broken.
It's a massive red flag there's something very wrong with that person.
That's why women avoid you.

That doesn't really make sense, because the data shows even men who previously had sexual success with women, are going through periods of sexlessness at much higher rates see

Oh yeah?
But my strawman beats your strawman!

That's not my argument but I can see why boiling everything down to a simple attack like that would make it easier for you to cling to those beliefs.

>I think it's a perfect example of how sociopathic and narcissistic women are.
Of course you do, that's why you're an incel. Also I'm a dude. A dude who has SEX.

Ugly people will get bred out, male virginity on the rise is a problem with males not females, incels are a suicide cult, AND you need some therapy. Deal with it.

i am not an incel. i am a woman. i woman who has SEX.

that was your argument and your backpedalling is of pointless

I'm not backpedaling either. What other rationalizations do you keep in your back pocket to ignorewhat you don't like? Can't wait to see the next one.

Yep. What's really happening is women spend their 20s fucking around with the top tier men and then once she's old and gross she'll go looking for an idiot simp to settle down with.

The causes are not known to any quantifiable degree, but it's clearly a tremendous change among men, for the worse, which both genders should be actively trying to constructively address. Just chalking it up to "changes in male culture" is sweepingly broad and frankly callous. And for that matter "changes in male culture" is not something you can isolate to just young men, just the people that are changing at this moment, it involves all of society going decades back.
For starters if 27% of men under age 30, already more than one in four and rising, have dropped out of the dating pool, then that's going to just as many women alone or with a man that's cheating on them. That's mathematically inescapable since there's an equal number of men and women.

Incels are a hate group. As long as you dont blame women for your problems, you'll be good

>For starters if 27% of men under age 30, already more than one in four and rising, have dropped out of the dating pool, then that's going to just as many women alone or with a man that's cheating on them. That's mathematically inescapable since there's an equal number of men and women.
This is where you're wrong. There is no cheating required. There is no "woman alone" required either.

Millennials are waiting longer than any other generation to get married. Massive numbers of young sexless men is of no problem or consequence to women because women are perfectly fine engaging in casual sex and short term relationships throughout their 20s. Once they are ready to marry, typically when their age starts catching up, then they can pick one of those undesirable men they ignored when they were young.

Women won't be left alone, they're abolutely fine with the other 73% of men, even if they have to share a little bit.
They can always go for the betas and make families after 30, then get a divorce and get half of everything the beta worked for.

right wingers do the same with muslims

>you'll be good
Good at dying a virgin?

I don't think that the women are perfectly fine with short term flings. I think finding, or at least earnestly trying to find, someone you could spend the rest of your life with is better even if you're 18-23 or so. And even if they do stop changing partners later in life they'll have developed habits and thought processes which make them worse wives, worse mothers, and less satisfied with life overall. Everyone will be better off bringing the lost young men back into the fold, and we'll have to meet them halfway to do it.

>any male who's still a virgin after highschool
isn't that still a very small portion of the overall population?
and some incels aren't even virgins. there were 2 people in particular that I can remember from YouTube who talking about not having sex in a long time then they ended up shooting people. I think one was at a yoga studio and I can't remember the other one. both looked normal, one even had a decent little house, but their personalities were obviously fucked.

>had
lol, figures

but they'll still be a single mom before wanting to settle down. betas will be raising someone else's kid. many such cases.

Exactly. They're a small portion of the population, since most of the population isn't fucked in the head.
Some crazies do slip through the net and manage to get laid at an appropriate age by sheer luck, but they're still sick in the head.
There need to be more psychological tests in highschool and early college, so these lonely people can be identified and either receive help or get locked up if they're too crazy.

seconding . Jow Forums is infested with incels for some reason. ask the same thing but literally anywhere else
sums it up pretty well

Jup this.

The majority of women initially chase after the highest value men, but once they realize they simply won't succeed in marrying one, they WILL eventually resort to a lower value male.

Nearly every woman wants to settle down and have kids at some point. If she fails to get this as she creeps towards the age of 30, her standards will gradually decrease until she meets some chump who's willing to marry her.

Gym + sports. Diet. Books. Healthy workplace. Limit alcohol. Your own place (either buy or rent a flat, house whatev).

That's a massive overgeneralistaion.
I've never blamed females or society for my problems, I've always blamed and hated myself, been trying to fix myself, but I'm still an 'incel trash', 'don't shoot up the school please' etc etc because I'm lonely.
It doesn't matter who you blame or what you do, if you're a loner past a certain age, you're a pariah and you won't ever be accepted.

Also, you'll find that many of the incelposting online is just venting, they usually don't actually believe that stuff but it feels good to vent.

whenever you feel yourself falling for incel propoganda just remember that women have the same amount of empathy that males have
why would you do that, just go on the internet and tell lies?

Except super-hypergamy will increase women's unrealistic standards even more. Eventually women will only find the top 5% of men attractive and every other male will be just dirt to them.

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Lol, so all women are whores, but from 2434 possible mates, she only chose 5 guys. You incels make one point and contradict another. If you had 2434 girls interested in you right now, you would have ended up fucking at least a hundred. That she possibly only fucked 5 guys from that massive dating pool took a lot of discipline none of you incels could have mustered to do. You people already fall in love with the 1 girl who was nice to you three months ago.

Get money, buy pussy, live a happy life.

>women can freely pick whoever they want and men cannot because women have been conditioned to choose the biggest Chad due to oversaturation
Thanks for proving my point

I wasn't proving your point you social reject, men can just approach women in person and get their dating pool but because you have so little experience you actually believe the behavior of women in online dating is the same as irl.

These books:
>How to win friends and influence people
>No more mr nice guy
>Models: attract women through honesty

Also stay as far away from incel communities as you can, they have a very strong crabs in a bucket mentality. You should instead seek out supportive communities such as self improvement groups who can help motivate you to stay on track.

You don't have any idea what incels actually says and are just arguing with shit you made up in your head.

Women ARE whores, but they are only whores for the top 20% of men.

Literally everything incels say is a lie.

No you didn't, you spouted baseless crap and then posted graphs that had nothing to do with your claims.

>Young men and women have less sex than before
True
>Incels are growing and getting sex for men is harder while women have sex more than ever
False

Notice the difference? Incels don't. Incels are literally a death cult of violent psychopaths whose entire ideology is built on lies.

>Incels are growing
This is true see >getting sex for men
This is also true see >women have sex more than ever
Nobody ITT claimed this. Stop making shit up.

Notice how I destroyed your strawmans very easily? Try again.

incels =\= virgins

Okay the real truth about incels is most of them struggle with mental issues. They have a lot of pain and misery inside. The internet paints them all as evil misogynists but it isn't really true.

>le epic statistic
>americans and japs are the rest of the world
no

I actually think people on the internet invented the incels are womanhaters meme because they can't handle the idea of a man being so depressed/socially inept that he struggles to form relationships even just friends. It is a scary world to live in. But if you dehumanize them then you don't have to empathize and feel what they feel anymore.

Volcels are growing. Incels are not. The graph shows volcels. Getting sex is easier than ever but volcels are growing in number.

Notice how I destroyed your strawmans very easily? Try again. You have nothing but lies, incel. Not having sex != incel. Virgin != incel.

Who are the group of people who post pictures of decapitated girls and laugh at them? What were they called again?

Well, there are five (5) points of attraction. If you can fulfill any one of them, you have a chance at not being an incel. Normies have between 2 and 3 out of the 5, and life obviously becomes easier the more perfect you are.
To briefly summarize these:
>be healthy (physically)
>be social and have friends
>be confident and emotionally strong
>have money
>be smart
Pick your poison. Some are better for one night stands, some for long term shit.
Pic related goes into much more detail

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Hardly anyone is a volcel. Volcel actually just means celibate and you only really do that for religion.

Look you can try to define incels as just the woman hating kind of male virgin but that is such a small portion of them. Most of them probably wind up falling into depression and then suicide in the worst case. A small portion of them join forums where they post woman hating stuff.

You realize you are posting on the website literally known for posting edgy shit and making fun of tragedies, right?

You are completely delusional if you think incels are responsible for something that's been around for literally as long as the internet has existed.

"Incels" are hated because they remind normies that life isn't easy for everyone and that the effort normies put in to "succeeding" was more vanity than genuine necessity. Normies would have succeeded regardless

If a male virgin doesn't identify as an incel then he's no incel, just someone who hasn't had sex yet.

nope. women call pretty much anyone they don't like an incel on social media.

you don't get to choose meanings when it suits you best, dumb cunt.

No one hates you for being a virgin
They hate incels because of their retarded destructive ideology and rotten worldview.
As long as you don't fall for the culture behind it you are fine

>everything will be good in the end :)
>just keep working, paying taxes, and otherwise helping a society that honestly wishes you were dead
>ew, how DARE you not be happy

>No one hates you for being a virgin
The most popular insult against ugly, socially awkward men right now is literally another name for "virgin"

take your virtue signaling elsewhere

No they don't. Why are you lying? It is the opposite, incels are the ones who insist on being called incels, and they call non-incel virgins incels too.

Just ignore it. Normies always rush to wherever they can feel their empty platitudes will yield them positive social feedback

Source: your ass.

Easiest way: are you a homosexual OP? Or closeted? If the answer is no you're fine and will not be an incel. One telltale sign of an incel is his tendency for homosexual behavior.

>No they don't
Literally 5 seconds on social media.

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So a straight guy cannot die a virgin?

Cool Photoshop, incel.

Where does it say that ugly socially awkward men are incels? That's right, nowhere, you literally made it up. An incel is someone who identifies as an incel, there is no other definition.

About 1% do. Hard to say how many of them are asexual, but most for sure. Unless you count the ones who die really young.

it's used against anyone women don't like, which the screenshot proves. try again.