Is monogamy impossible?

What makes me “mad” is finding out that “love” is a fucking lie.

Who fucking knows of it is or isn’t? You’ve come to the wrong place for that question.

Yeah, I’ve alwayys wanted to get married and have kids right up until I read about the Coolidge Effect and saw this video… as well as personal experiences knowing literally every guy I know has a porn addiction. I don’t want to have kids with some disgusting pervert.

Wife is Wife, Whore is Whore, some men need both.

My advice: Just choose one and be happy about it, but if you are going to bitch about your decision .. well .. just don't :)

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In a woman's life, there is nothing more important than get married and having children, that's what's going to make you happy.
Being a thot, is maybe fun a moment but it's going to make you bitter and sad...

Love isn't a lie, just difficult for humans, most in the modern age mistake lust for it.

The thing the guy in the video misses, in my opinion, is that desire for sexual variety is natural in both men AND women. Evolutionary psychology has already established that beyond reasonable doubt. So asking men to commit to monogamy is indeed a sacrifice, but the same goes for women. And so both sacrifices, when properly acknowledged, tend to balance themselves out. You don't flirt with other men and I won't flirt with other women; we both lose something and win something by adopting that committment.
Now, pornography is another issue altogether. Banning porn for a man in today's day and age is (at least for most) a form of sacrifice far beyond banning him from having sex with hookers or whatever. We are constantly thinking about sex (an average of 1 sexual thought every 52 seconds, according to one study IIRC) and porn offers an all too easy way of letting go of that tension. So in my opinion we would be wise to separate pornography (for both men and women) from actual cheating, and treat it as something as innocuous as possible. If my girlfriend gets off by reading Fifty Shades of Grey and masturbates while thinking of being bondaged by some millionaire, well, that's life, that's just human instinct. What counts is that he doesn't go and fuck another guy, because that's what's actually problematic from an evolutionary standpoint. Same goes for men: fantasizing about fucking other women should be treated just as an instinctual relief that has nothing to do with the relationship. It can still be problematic for both partners, but I think it's a necessary compromise.

Ok just as an example, you can love your dog or cat or friend but not be in love. It is still good to have a lifelong companion.

Not necessarily. I was broken up with because I devoted too much attention to my ex. I couldn't watch porn anymore as she became the only woman i was "attracted" to. I am not the only guy. It is a two-way street full of people with emotional imperfections. Everyone has flaws, but not everyone gives up on the concept of monogamy. Human emotion is a lot deeper than we give it credit; listening is usually a hell of a lot more important than words.

I know that which is why Ive never been thot. I realize that I’ll finally feel happy if I can be a wife and a mother.
But I’m just playing devils advocate here.
Surely I won’t be happy once I find the porn on my future husbands computer. I’ll be devastated and it will inevitably lead to major relationship problems.

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You're a dude. I can tell by the way you type. Now fuck off faggot

I find it funny that women can only find worth in their vagina. It must suck knowing you are only good for sexual pleasure or reproduction.

Apparently there is no inbetween.

Hello miss and if its any consolation to you that is most certainly not the case. If you find someone decent hold on. I kmow women take great offense when we jerk to porn while in a relationship but its really just a flustered feeling on our parts of missing our women. Personally i lay my women down often and have no need for porn much passed the first few times in bed. Honestly the last relationship i was in (9 months with a proposal on my part) and i dont think i ever jerked off. Why would you when i can plant a slow kiss on her lips and make her happy.

if you become a thot you'll end up alone

Of you catch him jerking off to porn, and you don’t like it, then you should have been fucking him instead. Take his phone and start sucking.

>men become trad because they want to save their race and honour their ancestors
>women become trad cause they want dicks inside them

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Where else are they supposed to find their worth other than being lovers and mothers?
Would you prefer they be in the workplace?

I'm 25 I'm married with 2 children.
I know my husband is watching porn, it was a chock and it breaks my heart the first I saw that. But I accept it, and now I don't really care honestly.

But what about muh feelings?
I don’t know why, but porn is heartbreaking to me.
If a guy faps to porn that’s basically like fucking a prostitute at least every week in my mind.
Also the Bible says any man who looks after a women with oust has already committed adultery in his heart.

I’ve never read Fifty Shades nor do I have any desire to because getting bondaged by a millionaire is a really pleb tier fantasy’s does I legitimately do not understand why other women want that.

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Opinion noted, Schlomo

You sound like a fag no offense

Do the women in the thread not think like this? Ladies ive gfs follow me into the bathroom just to see if im jerking off only for that to lead to sex and its glorious. Honestly that kind of jealousy is kind of hot but dont let it consume you. Real men dont give a damn about some girl on a screen, but the ones who give u more than the time of day you miss the rest of our lives once weve parted ways.

everyone in this thread is a virgin
so much BS posted

when you fuck a lot, it gets boring and you want to stay only with one person as you become older

I don’t want to end up being cucked like you; I’m sorry. I’d give up any hope of having a traditional family if it’s just gonna be a lie.
And from so many other women I’ve heard, including you, it’s always a lie. Love is a lie.

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LOL , then you want that extra spice, she grows older and sour, while you are on your prime and can get all the young pussy like never before. Don't make me laugh user, you are not old enough yet to know, I can tell.

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So just tell him how you feel then so he knows at the beginning.

Most guys don’t have to look at porn, but it’s just it they aren’t with anyone. It just satisfies a physical need, but it’s not emotionally fulfilling at all.

im 35 and had my share

Like you were honestly going to try to be a “good” woman. Hahahahaha.

sex is getting more and more boring for me, im glad its that way. So i can focus on being more productive and earning mad cash

throwing some frisbees at car windows so they break

> 35

Exactly.

That video makes it seem like guys have to look at porn. Like it’s totally inevitable.
I guess no one really wants to be married enough to give up porn.
People act like it’s SOOOO HARD to give up some stupid videos of STD ridden drugged up whores fucking niggers and psychopaths

Hahaha.
No, I know my husband loves me, porn and masturbation don't mean anything.

I too find it heartbreaking that my girlfriend could fantasize about fucking other men. But the thing is, it happens. And the guy in the video is right about one thing at least: we have unreasonable expectations. Our instincts get triggered by external stimuli constantly, and in the case of men and sex, it's a fucking nightmare. It's a constant bombardment. We are just hard-wired for that. So having the expectation that it should be otherwise is just... nonsensical. It won't go away. I can be madly in love for a woman and still feel sexual desire for any other girl that crosses my way on the street. That's just how it is, and I think we would do good to acknowledge that, both for men and for women.

well my point was that its only going downhill from now

Cuck

mine says a lot things like this "wow that guy is so handsome" and i dont care. i just laugh it off because at the end of the day its me who is dicking her and not that "handsome dude"

also she sometimes catches me while i fap to porno on my laptop and she gets mad /jealous

you are too insecure dude

You dumb bitch. Men aren't like women, we don't need to be in love to fuck a thing. We don't even need to like you and we would still hate fuck you. The emotional threshold that needs to be met before a women is down to fuck is far higher than a man's, which is virtually none. Just because he is beating his meat doesn't mean he doesn't love you. First thing you need to do to get over this is understand that the language of sex means two very different things to men and women. Do not become a whore. If it bothers you so much do break up and find someone else (good luck). Also, having a main bitch and a side ho is the most trad thing you can do if you study history / the bible. Monogamy is for betas, everyone knows chad is prolific.

Calling a women a cuck, like man that doenst make sense bro. Get your baby tested guy shes going to want smarter than what youve got.

I agree porn is garbage. Also I think it is worse now than ever. Don’t let it take away your hope though, that’s what it’s designed to do I think.

no means no only when I say it
youtube.com/watch?v=FVhG9cjJOks

I’ve never fantasized about other men during the whole time I’ve had a bf. I swear.

Well, that was my point, that we shouldn't care so much about it.
Just as this other user points out:

I excercise daily, maintain my skin, etc etc. I've never looked beter, ever.

You know when things are even more interesting?
Give him a handjob while he watches porn, then ask him anything, I mean: anything you want. Trust me on this one.

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how do you do it? i dont have energy to even start exercising. Its a vicious cycle.

if my wife would post on Jow Forums id beat her up, you dumb whore

The only good post on this thread, congratulations:)

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> Why should I put all this effort into trying to be a good woman if all guys are still gonna jerk of to whores anyway?
Sperm is cheap, and what you need from a man is his resources, his work, not his fertility.

> Is monogamy impossible?
Western civilization proved it wasn't.

> If all men can’t be monogamous then why should I commit to one?
So if only 99.999% of men can be monogamous, you don't want to be? The "why" is simple, it is called "the wall", but your question is not cohesive.

TL;DR: Are you sure you're heterosexual? Do you know what a man is?

At first I figured: I will never find the time to excercise, so I purchased a couple of small weights, those you put on your wrists, and started doing boxing like movements. 40 seconds, stop 20 seconds, 40 seconds, stop and so on. Everytime I had 2 minutes or 5 minutes free. Then moved to other routines but still do that every 'dead time' I find in my daily routine, I'm ripped.

good stuff, how much should be the weights?

She is dumb but she should be the one beating her husband for looking at porn so much. If I were her I’d make him wear a fucking chastity belt.

>tfw no submissive trad husband who worships me and lusts after only me

>Why should I put all this effort into trying to be a good woman if all guys are still gonna jerk of to whores anyway?
Because Beta Bucks is better than 15 cats.
Think of the future.

I hear you. It's different for men and women. We are hard-wired to seek *constant* sexual variety, while you seem to be able to focus on one person (if he is good enough / you love him enough) for a while. But the data suggests that it's probable that after some time (let's say 10 or 20 years together) you too would start to fantasize about other men.
psychologytoday.com/us/blog/once-more-feeling/201306/female-sexual-desire-evolutionary-biology-perspective

Almost all people in all cultures are monogamous. Infidelity rates are very low.

i watch sometimes porn and my wife beat the shit ouf of me /got very jealous. i still have scratches from this.

I could care less about a man’s fucking resources. I wouldn’t even mind making more money than him and being the breadwinner up until I have kids. Then I’d prefer to stay at home. I actually prefer poor guys over rich ones.

What I want out of a relationship is attention and affection to be completely honest.

Also, why are you claiming 99.999% of men can be monogamous? Where is your source? Because if this is true then of course I don’t want to be a thot. However any statistic on porn use should show you no man is truly monogamous.

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Find one that doesn't watch porn.
If he watches porn, he's hardly "trad".

I started small, because I was not doing anything before starting to daily move the body. Purchased a couple 1/2kg, another couple 1kg and then the 2kg pair. Depending on what I did I used different weights, just move your body and use the inercia to push the weight far and back to you, also rotate your body just like boxes do. You can even do it while sit btw, while watching tv, that's the beauty of it.

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>infidelity rates are very low
Most people would cheat if they knew they wouldn’t get caught, another thing is that most people also watch porn regularly. That’s all far from monogamous.

Hotttt

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> Also, why are you claiming 99.999% of men can be monogamous?
Let me rephrase: "So if only 99.999% of men COULD be monogamous, you WOULD NOT want to be?". I could argue that all men can be monogamous / celibate, but it would serve no purpose.

> I could care less about a man’s fucking resources (...) up until I have kids.
Hypergamy serves a purpose.

> What I want out of a relationship is attention and affection to be completely honest.
If that's REALLY it, you could make an incel very happy for the rest of his life and get your fill 5 times over. Seems like delusion/brainwashing to me.

>tranny thinks he's a woman
discarded

This whole issue is based on a false premise. I've never been worth a woman and thought anything about other women. When she's mine, then she's mine: that means she submits to my desires and I equally have no desires outside of her. It's an equitable relationship for both parties. However, if one of us were to say get grotesquely dat, I'm sorry but that's unacceptable and a violation of our understanding that we both do our best to remain the best for each other. I'd dump her. I've also dumped women because they couldn't control their insecurities to the point where they would lash out and become verbally abusive. I'd would tell them they had nothing to fear from other women, but some just couldn't get over their own fears, and thus in a vicious cycle I had to give them the boot so to speak. It's the responsibility of the male to set terms, but he must also enforce those terms equally on himself.

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Wrong, I dated a former incel and he ended up telling me he didn’t want to have sex with me and I very often got rejected for his long-established hentai habit.

No. It’s not impossible

I can focus on one girl but girls are whores

I don’t watch porn

Love is not a fucking lie! What is a lie is the type of love most people grow up expecting to be based on consumed media.
You need to find and understand real world love, not some cheap ass concept from movies.

> ...he ended up telling me he didn’t want to have sex with me...
> What I want out of a relationship is attention and affection to be completely honest.

> I could('nt) care less about a man’s fucking resources
> (...) up until I have kids.

With the way you double-speak, I don't need to see tits to believe you're a woman. Conglaturations.

So I'll return to my original answer:
> If all men can’t be monogamous then why should I commit to one?
"The Wall"

> that image
> undermining trust of genders by selectively questioning niggers

Another white genocide progapanda.

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What a loser. Sorry you had to endure that, but maybe you've got bad taste in men? What age are you roughly and what's an honest (non-self depricating/self aggrandizing) estimate of your attractiveness? I'm curious and would like to make some recommendations of where to look for a good match.

Maybe you should just get a load of 12 gauge in your face.

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Virtue isn't for others, it's for you and God. I can't even fathom this mindset. How does other people being shit make you think you should be shit too? Don't be a hedonistic dumbass, stay honest and virtuous, do it because it's right to do it. You're more free like that than enslaved to urges anyway.

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Jesus what the fuck is wrong with these people? 68-72% would cheat if they could? Monogamy has provided me with the absolute best sexual experiances of my life. I never will understand some people's need to be degenerate. Explore your woman's sexuality and teach her to be your perfect mate. Any man that fails at this is a loser. Be true to your woman and tell her she's the only one while you're balls deep in her womb...she will show you her appreciation guaranteed.

^^^

this thread must be b8. all oldfags know there are no grills on the internet.

That's no longer the consensus senpai. Recent advertising trends have shown that women are indeed venturing out into the electronic void. Likely a side effect of the lack of intrest displayed by men in their real lives. Most are likely fast and/or ugly however.

based slavs know whats up

I’m 22. Couldn’t tell you a good estimate of my attractiveness because my self esteem is very low. A lot of people tell me I’m at least above average though.

no tits were posted though :'(

sad signs of a dying civilization - women become just as atomized as fringe men regardless of fatness or ugliness. this whole thread is a reminder of the existential horror show reality is. no wonder people prefer hyper reality.

I’ll be your boyfriend, I’m only 20 though

Only manly post here, the other user talking about beating his wife is just a nerd. Dudes probably paying hookers.

that is very sad. HENTAI?!? he wanted a 2d waifu with 3d lady parts and couldn't compromise. sad.

are you in college? at 22, you're near the end of the easiest socializing phase of your life so take advantage of the proximity to similarly aged people. avoid bars and frats for the opposite end of the incel/chad spectrum. this all supposes you're in school so correct me if I'm wrong.

Please do not accuse me of slavhood again.

Some Men are monogamous some men aren't. Just like some women are thots and some aren't

pls stop

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Honestly femanon, it sounds like you'll be fine. At 20 you still have some time to develop your beauty and with age will come more confidence. Just don't become overconfident.

I would make finding out a man's history your main dating indicator of success. Find out what his upbringing was like: Did he have a father? Were both of his parents around always? Does he have any religious beliefs (even if they may have lapsed)? What are his life goals?

If he wasn't raised in a family with a strong mother and father I would consider that a serious red flag. Structure and discipline are the most important manly features: with both of those even a man with deficiencies can self correct any bad behavior or lack of resources. A man that shows to keep his word is also important in this context so that you will not be worrying and able to trust him.

Additionally, I would continue to seek out men with a healthy amount of self esteem, but avoid those that are cocky.

Lastly, life goals are the most important part of any relationship. Be willing to compromise a little down the road, but if your goal is to have kids and a family make sure he knows that right off the bat. And make sure his expeditions and yours are realistic. Love makes us think funny the impossible is possible, which is fun and cute, but it can also make houses without foundations. Knowing the limitations of yourselves as a couple is very important.

Your partner should be that: a partner who can work with you to achieve your goals. The whole "behind any strong man" meme is actually pretty real. Women used to be the cement of the household: overseeing all aspects of the inward world of the family, while men with their ability to take more assaults would expose themselves to the harsh outer world and return home to recoup and plan with the wife. The teamwork aspect had been mischaracterized to instead be presented as men forcing women to stay at home: nonsense.

Apologies for any grammatical errors. Phone posting on my porch with my morning cup of joe.

>t. 33 y/o boomer surveys his lawn

s-s-sorry Frank...horizontal and vertical mixup.

t. pic related

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Thank you, this is excellent advice.
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Reality is what we make of it. I get very zen in this part of the year because I have a garden that i religiously maintain. My home is a personal fascist paradise where I assert order. The outside world can go to shit for all I care. At 33 now and without a gf I'm not giving up but I'm also not actively interested in seeking. /sig/ is crucial in these times and we should consider the relative peace an opportunity to better ourselves in body, mind, and finances. I will keep memeing the idea that Jow Forums needs to be a "black box" for civilization. When things go pear shaped, if we are prepared in these aspects we stand to benefit the most and also use the redpills to serve as a phoenix for those ideals.