My boyfriend is aspergers smart and I don’t know how to catch up. Some days I think maybe I’m actually retarded because I feel like I can’t mentally keep up with him. I have terrible memory and have a hard time absorbing his wisdom. How do I get on the same level as my boyfriend so that I can keep him mentally interested? Or should I just see a doctor and get the sped diagnosis?
My boyfriend is aspergers smart and I don’t know how to catch up...
Seems like an inferiority complex. See a therapist or something which could help out more. If anything, simply just be who you are. If he loves you, he loves you for who you are, faults too. ANd vice versa. No need to prove yourself to him. Be you can have fun with him.
If he wanted someone as smart as him, he'd find spergy male friends. He's with you because he likes you.
I have autism and.... I just don't understand some things of society and I just dont speak of that, I ask people to explain it to me, but they think I already know, maybe that help user?
This helps I just feel embarrassed when I can’t add on to a conversation because it’s above my knowledge.
THen def look into a therapist and maybe a psycharist? Therapist help a shit ton, and even explain things easier for you as well as teach you how to cope and deal with stuff. Nothing to be ashamed off if you work to improve yourself.
My boyfriend is a genius. Like, 160 IQ kinda shit. While I'm definitely smarter than average, I'm not as smart as him.
I felt like you feel for a while, but I accepted that I'll never be as smart as him. And he doesn't care, so I shouldn't care about being as smart as him either.
I pay attention to him and show interest in what he has to say. I try to learn about his interests from him. I ask him questions, make him talk to me, I'm supportive of his interests and passions.
Instead of focusing on what I can't do for him, I try to focus on what I can do for him. He needs love, understanding, kindness, care. I can offer him that, so that's what I try to good at.
What I'm trying to say is: offer him what you can. Be good at it. Put effort into being good for him, within your means.
Also be proud of having a smart man by your side instead of letting it get to you.
I am smarter than my girlfriend but that doesn't bother either of us. We love each other for our hearts not our minds.
Just try to apply yourself and gain knowledge if you want to have interesting conversations with him.
As an aspie myself though I don't really care when people can't keep up with my outlandish, fast thought process. I also have a girlfriend who is not quite on the same level but I don't care I still have fun talking to her and like her personality.
cool, what does he do?
Don't worry, your only worth is that stinking hole between your legs, he doesn't give a shit about the rest. You're welcome
The idea that you have to keep him mentally interested - is that coming from him or you?
If he's telling you that, then you should definitely break up with him, because you don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
If you're telling you that, then it's what they call "negative self-talk" and you should study Cognitive Behavioral Therapy or some such thing to help you overcome your low self-worth.
tell him to explain things to you so you can catch up to his knowledge. aspies love teaching
haha this thread hurts so bad. wish I saw this back when I was extra mentally ill with hyper inferiority complex and low self esteem.
I broke up with my ex who I still love (after like 5 years of break-up) for this exact reason. I think I broke his heart when I told him I need go improve my mental health and become good enough for him and that he should forget about a failure like me and go find someone more worthy. ahaha. it hurts. I'm in a much better place now and I understand my stupidity and I want him back but it's probably too late.
Yours is one of myriad reasons why the myth of male and female interchangeability needs to be smashed to pieces.
Holy shit.
>the myth of male and female interchangeability needs to be smashed to pieces
wtf, user?
You don't even know this person is female.
>You don't even know this person is female.
>I think I broke *his* heart
99% chance of being female.
>My boyfriend is aspergers smart and I don’t know how to catch up.
Don't try and catch up. Just give what you have to offer and validate him for being intelligent. Carry a standard that you are both equals but with different gifts.
You don't have to "catch up" to him. Stand still and have a conversation instead.
I don't dislike hanging around people who are dumber than me, at all.
I'd kind of like it if we were both deceptively mediocre at different things. That way you can be impressed when I shovel my stupid geopolitical theories down your throat, and I can be amazed when you show me your okay artwork.
This is great advice
I mean he has a phone, why don't you call him and tell him what you just wrote to us? People make mistakes. Maybe he's sitting there thinking...
>I really miss her
>But she doesn't want to be with me
?
That sounds pretty high.
Like, 10% of the population is at least not straight, and if you include bi, then the numbers get even larger.
So, like 90% max.
#heteronormativity
Not much at the moment, he's going through a bit of a rough time.
Depression hit him really hard last year and he's still trying to get back on his feet.
That's sweet, thank you very much.
>male and female interchangeability
I'm an ESL retard what does that even mean?
Broke up 5+ years ago and we haven't spoken for just as long because being a turbo sped I never stayed in contact after leaving.
Where there's a will there's a way. Life finds a way. ... Thanks Jurassic Park
remind him of his inability to understand normal socialization while you are able to do so with ease, make him as insecure as you. This is the healthy thing to do.
I don't think I'm capable of loving anyone besides him 2bh. I can message him but how do I bring up our old relationship as a topic? plus he probably already has a new gf.
>I don't think I'm capable of loving anyone besides him 2bh
That's not accurate to biology or life. Bit dramatic there don't you think.
However:
>I can message him but how do I bring up our old relationship as a topic?
Well that depends on him and how you left it. Honesty could be the best policy. Or easing into it could be the best policy. Depends on how you two fit together and how he is as a person.
When in doubt, I like to make my intentions known but tactfully. So I would probably start it off with:
>improve my mental health and become good enough for him
Tell him you've been thinking about him and were wondering if you two could reconnect. Just start off friendly, see if there's anything left there.
All those IQ points and he's still a loser? Sad.
>Tell him you've been thinking about him and were wondering if you two could reconnect.
After 5 years?? Is that not really creepy?
What's sad is you being judgmental.
>Both parents and he's still a loser? Sad.
>He's alive and he's still a loser? Sad.
>He has two feet and he's still a loser? Sad.
Get help before your bullshit ruins you.
Get good at the things that he's not good at doing. Keeping him interested is easy, just listen to what he likes to talk about and act cute
Uh... people think about each other. We're all human... if he cared about you or is just a reasonable person, I don't think he would be creeped out that someone he used to really care about still thinks about him and wonders about him... ?
Case and point: Ex of over a decade hit me up before she got married. "I was thinking about you last night." She's a slut like that but you get the point.
He has Asperger. It's extremely common to suffer from very severe depression and anxiety when you have Asperger.
He handles himself better than most people I know, he's financially successful (made a million dollar over the last year and half) and did amazing things with his life even if he's just 31.
This kind of shit will always happen to him, what matters is that he has a supportive person to lean on when he feels down.
I wanted to reply but what if he has a nice sane gf now and my intrusion ruins their perfectly nice relationship? but l
on some level I know it's just me making excuses for being a chicken...
Can you tell the story of your ex? Did she hit you up just to tell you that before wedding, was it like a wedding invite, or did she hit you up after then got proposed to? What were your feelings towards her and how did you feel after she contacted you?
>made a million dollar over the last year and half
I wondered how aspies got gfs, until now
He has a girlfriend because he's attractive, intelligent, funny, and a really great person. We're very happy together, have always been.
We both have money, too, so it really doesn't matter.
Damn thanks for being interested I love sharing.
> Did she hit you up just to tell you that before wedding?
I'm not sure what her motivations were. It could have been to make me jealous, girls do that, but that didn't make much sense in this scenario because I absolutely blow her man the fuck out of the water into space. He seems like a very nice fellow but I'm going to be arrogant and say he's not me.
She hit me up after she got proposed to, literally like a month before the wedding on a social media site. I pieced together what was going on in her life because I didn't respond.
My feelings were very judgmental towards he in a negative way at first. When I stopped talking to her, it was because she had just tried to cheat with me on her then-boyfriend. I rejected her and asked to be friends. She threw a hissy fit and said no.
So I felt it was my responsibility as a man to let her live with her decisions. Responding wasn't going to do anything good for me and she chose her path a long time ago.
After that, I really just felt sadness at how dysfunctional we were. I felt sadness at how I had behaved when I was younger to contribute to the situation, and I resolved to not conduct myself that way in the future.
I would have responded. I wanted to stay friends many years ago. But she made her choice and she's going to live with it now.
This is prob the best post I've seen on this board for a pretty long time. Well done user.
Gays and other sexual deviants are far less likely to either express regret or have stable relationships to begin with.
this
Wait so she hit you up, you ignore her, then she persists and offers to cheat on her fiance with you, you turn her down, they marry, and you work out she hit you up a month before the wedding after their wedding? Am I understanding?
I feel like I'm in your ex's position... but without the wedding or boyfriend. Maybe she just wanted to see if there's one last chance with you before taking the plunge with something subpar?
I'm thinking of becoming a porn actoress atm. I cannot love any more and I do not care about having children or a relationship when anyone other than him, so if I do contact him it'll be to see if he wants to try again before I go and become disease ridden and undateable, if not I'll be accepting this porno job.
>I'm an ESL retard what does that even mean?
The delusions of """equality""" of function cause utterly absurd actions and thoughts based on a false premise.
By equality of function, I mean that some people genuinely believe that men and women act and think in the same way, or that they should do so. This is in contrast to equality of worth--meaning in the absence of other factors, a woman can be just as morally valuable as a man.
"Interchangeability", the assumption that there are no meaningful differences, leads people to completely misunderstand both the motivations and actions of others in the worst ways possible. Sometimes the result is just minor embarrassment. In other times, it's catastrophic, like when a woman assumes her partner wants her to "measure up" to him in his capability because she herself wants someone either equal to or above her.
>Gays and other sexual deviants
Oh, okay, well thanks for your honesty.
You're literally insane.
They stick their dicks in shitholes, make an entire lifestyle out of it, and you call me insane.
>In other times, it's catastrophic, like when a woman assumes her partner wants her to "measure up" to him in his capability because she herself wants someone either equal to or above her.
Oh I understand now. but ouch that hurt in the exact hurt spot.
It sounds harsh, but it's true: I don't have any idea how gay you are, but let's assume it's 0%.
I'm pretty sure I'm batting a similar average.
But, like... to believe that nobody else is?
That's fucking crazy.
Why the fuck would someone want a dude to fuck them in the ass, or give another dude a blowjob, unless gayness was a thing?
Like, it is, and some dudes are gay, and some chicks are too, and there's a bunch of folks who are into both, and like that just makes sense.
You don't have to be one of them to know they exist, you chufflewump.
They're not "deviants" to anything but what you get off on, and I don't fucking care what that is, because I already know what I do, and it has nothing to do with you unless you have a vagina.
Why is this difficult for people?
>lifestyle
See, now that's a meme.
There's no fucking thing as the "gay lifestyle," you hornblatt-siphoner.
You have a dick and you like other's dicks? Great. Does that have any bearing on any other part of your fucking life?
Well, sort of, but no more than it would if you were a poon-hound.
Like, what do you think happens when someone wants gay dick?
Is it like some transformation where they get possessed by vegan, artisan-shop-owning leather-daddies in Silverlake?
Because that's a fucking fantasy, mah dood.
Gay folks are everywhere. You don't even know who they are unless they tell you.
Fuck, I could be lying and be totally gay this whole time, but it would be as much of a surprise to you as it would to me.
At least you know now. I agree with what the other user said, it's not too late for hope. Under normal circumstances I'd never take back someone who broke off a relationship, but if they hadn't even been with anyone else because of their attachment, I might give them a chance if the issue that caused the break was resolved. If you can get rid of the mindset at fault, there's no harm in trying--if he has a gf, you move on, but there's only a chance if you try.
Nice spacing.
>Why the fuck would someone want a dude to fuck them in the ass, or give another dude a blowjob, unless gayness was a thing?
What kind of an argument is this? I know that in most cases, being a faggot is something you're born with. So is schizophrenia. Neither are 'normal' in a population, nor are they desirable--and the second part especially is what makes them deviants. Whether they choose to be degenerate genetic dead-ends or not is irrelevant. They still are.
>You have a dick and you like other's dicks? Great. Does that have any bearing on any other part of your fucking life?
I don't know, we just had """pride month""", so you tell me.
>no more than it would if you were a poon-hound.
I think I made it clear that sexual deviance wasn't restricted to gays.
>I could be lying and be totally gay
With the way you post, it definitely wouldn't be a surprise, kek.
>nor are they desirable
To you. They're not desirable to you.
I don't particularly desire them either, except to the degree that there are fewer dudes who want to fuck chicks, which should theoretically increase my chances.
But to other gay folk, they're obviously desirable, and I have no fucking idea why I'd have any argument against it.
You're being a whiffleblaster to compare it to schizophrenia.
Fuck pride month. Fuck pride in any particular sexual practice.
Like, we want to fuck who we want to fuck, and it's retarded that anybody has to be persecuted for it, and fuck anybody who thinks otherwise, including the bigots who hate gay folk or the bigots who hate straight folk, or literally anybody who thinks we have any control over who we want to fuck.
So what the fuck does "sexual deviance" mean to you if being a poon-hound also counts as that? What do you think sex is, you clobbermodding blumhitzer?
I honestly don't care if you think I am gay, unless you're a chick who I might be able to have sex with, in which case I would like you to know I'm not.
Like, what is your major malfunction?
>clobbermodding
*clobbermoddling*
Forgot the L.
>They're not desirable to you.
It's difficult to converse with leftists (and lolbergs) because they categorically refuse to think in societal terms. This isn't about the individual--not me, not you, not the faggot across the street.
>I have no fucking idea why I'd have any argument against it.
The problem is in pandering to them. Gays are genetic dead-ends, and they are far more likely by definition to be hedonists, given the nature of their orientation. Both of those are detrimental to the overall functioning of a society. If gays want to remove themselves from the gene pool, more power to them. As many apologists will be quick to point out, they've always existed in some form. Toleration of their public presence has not, which is key, because that is what limited their influence and subsequent damage.
>You're being a whiffleblaster to compare it to schizophrenia.
Your insults are creative, at least. But how so? Your 'argument' was to say that gayness exists. I said its existence wasn't at issue. Of course they exist--the question is what impact that existence has, and what to do about it. The answer isn't a default "deal with it", like you would imply with gays.
>Fuck pride month. Fuck pride in any particular sexual practice.
Okay. But you said that they didn't make a lifestyle out of it, and they themselves flaunt it.
>it's retarded that anybody has to be persecuted for it
Now we're getting somewhere. This would get into your justification for government and legal systems--why should I be persecuted for not wanting to pay taxes that subsidize gays? What do you get out of government, a monopoly of force, and what do you expect to get out of it?
Without answering that, we'll be skirting around the core of our disagreement, because fundamentally, if gays publicly act like fags, I think they should be persecuted for it.
>So what the fuck does "sexual deviance" mean.
Hedonism and/or promiscuity. "Poon-hound" means womanizer, right?
>It's difficult to converse with leftists (and lolbergs) because they categorically refuse to think in societal terms.
I almost always only think in societal terms. We live in a fucking society, and what you do to someone will have repercussions that extend to whoever else they tell about it.
This isn't some fucking political battle, you bunderchunt, it's real fucking life.
What the fuck does your ideology have to do with how I treat you in everyday life? Everybody has crazy ideas of how they think the world should work. So do I. We manage to get along despite that, and that's about as good as I've ever been able to manage with any other human being.
>Gays are genetic dead-ends
Like, obviously not, because they've been around for longer than humanity. Animals are gay as fuck a bunch of the time, and they still manage to put it in and make more of themselves. If gays were genetic dead-ends, they'd have already become extinct at the time of the fucking mammals who survived the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs, you whizzlewhit.
Just let people do what they want to do, you huzzlekwat.
If there's really a crisis where humans are at the risk of becoming extinct because they don't want to have procreative sex, well, we know how to extract semen and ovaries, and we've made test-tube babies, so like get over it, you flanderbasting buxomtine.
>the question is what impact that existence has, and what to do about it.
None and nothing. You don't have to do anything whatsoever about anyone being gay, ever, for any reason. I don't know why you fucking care.
>This would get into your justification for government and legal systems--why should I be persecuted for not wanting to pay taxes that subsidize gays?
What the fuck are you talking about? Governments levy taxes to provide services for human beings. Some humans are gay faggots, and nobody should give a fuck because they're human gay faggots.
>What do you get out of government, a monopoly of force, and what do you expect to get out of it?
>Without answering that, we'll be skirting around the core of our disagreement, because fundamentally, if gays publicly act like fags, I think they should be persecuted for it.
What does "acting like a fag" mean? Like literally do you think that people who are gay don't realize that they are in the same society as you?
Are you imagining some perpetual Mardi-Gras where beaded naked men are thrusting their cock at you?
Because you might be gay if that's what you think gay is, and I guess it sounds great if you want dick, but like... a lot of people are gay who would find that rather distasteful.
Making your sexuality the most important part of your humanity is problematic and reductive of the human experience.
It's important, of course, however you identify, because sex is one of the most powerful experiences that humanity has to offer, but it's not the sine-qua-non of all existence.
It's only because people have made such a big fucking deal out of gay people not being straight that it's ever been an issue in the first place, after all.
Like, if you're not, then why do you care except to protect the rights of people to just find love wherever they seek it?
>Hedonism and/or promiscuity. "Poon-hound" means womanizer, right?
I'm a cis-het-male. If I were capable, I would have sex with someone every single day and never repeat this out of necessity for the rest of my waking existence.
That's not my fault. I'm just really interested in having sex with women.
The question is whether there's anything wrong with that, provided I stumbled upon whatever magic realm would allow me to do it?
If they were consenting, then I think the answer is clearly "no, nothing wrong with that, move along."
If you don't like that, then you're more than welcome to not participate in it, but saying that there's something wrong with it is just an expression of your discomfort.
You want comfort? Fall asleep.
This is a crazy, painful, discomforting universe, from my experience, and the only respite therefrom is the sweet release of complete unconsciousness.
>I almost always only think in societal terms.
Good, then you can understand why pandering to a small minority at the expense of everyone else isn't always justified.
>What the fuck does your ideology have to do with how I treat you in everyday life?
When did I imply it did? I'm talking about the conditions within which everyday life takes place, and that's a deeply political subject.
>Like, obviously not, because they've been around for longer than humanity.
Show me an all-male, all-gay society and I'll apologize. But they don't exist.
>Just let people do what they want to do
That's a naive worldview. "Freedom" is an illusion that only exists as far as it is allowed to, and the same people who claim this motive have no problem whatsoever in requiring actions of others to fulfill their own desires. I have no interest in sending police to bust down apartment doors at 2 in the morning. But I do have an interest in keeping disease-ridden fags in BDSM gear off of public streets.
>You don't have to do anything whatsoever about anyone being gay
That's ideologically-motivated nonsense and you know it. If I were to tell a gay couple to fuck off out of my store, the state will ram a boot up my backside and their "allies" will cheer it on smugly. A sexually permissive society, which gays by nature have a huge vested interest in maintaining, is also demonstrably bad for the relationship quality in said society--are gays the start and end of my thoughts on the matter? Obviously not, but to claim they're unrelated is unequivocally bullshit.
>nobody should give a fuck because they're human gay faggots
Why, nigger? I do. Is that enough justification to crack down on me? And if so, what gives your view precedence over mine? What gives you legitimacy? The insufferable thing about people like you is that you'll simultaneously deny objective truth while zealously enforcing your will on anyone you disagree with. Pick one, and only one.
Oh no - so she tries to cheat with her boyfriend with me. i say no. I ask if we can be friends. She says no.
...
...
Fast forward 10 years. She hits me up on a social media platform out of the blue. I look closer and realize she's getting married soon. I ignore her message and move on with my life and feel sad for her future husband.
About the porn actress - I love porn and I love porn actresses. I fully approve and wish you would send me your porn.
At the same time, I think you really should try to be healthier before you go into porn.
> I cannot love any more
>before I go and become disease ridden and undateable
:( Go into porn when you're emotionally and mentally strong and healthy lady. Don't go be an emotionally and psychologically broken porn actress... that can literally be deadly.
>thedailybeast.com
Don't end up like Mercedes (August Ames). Such a sad story of loss...
I would have captain save a hoed her. Don't turn out like her user.
>What does "acting like a fag" mean?
Flaunting your lust for cock in public, which they do, you disingenuous shitbag.
>a lot of people are gay who would find that rather distasteful.
Oh, wow, probability distributions. I'm shocked that not all gays are clones. Fags are far more likely to engage in said behavior, and by definition they are already dead weight at best.
>If they were consenting, then I think the answer is clearly "no, nothing wrong with that, move along."
That's because you're a hedonist. A sexual deviant to be treated in the same manner as gays. Your case is arguably worse because it's more able to metastasize. But a society of total freedom of action will quickly reach an equilibrium which has anything but that, and people's options are always going to be passively restricted at minimum, even if you refuse to take direct action. In the case of hedonists, you will quickly devalue what fragile remnants of morality and community remain, since your primary concern is with ego-driven pleasure.
Now, even you will admit to limits based on other considerations, I assume. Can a child consent to sex, for example? Why or why not? I have an idea of how you'll answer, but I'm curious to see if either of my predictions is right.
>saying that there's something wrong with it is just an expression of your discomfort.
I'm obviously uncomfortable with it, but that's not something I pulled out of my ass. It is a fact that hedonists have less stable and less happy relationships overall, and to someone who values that, your actions are anathema. In short, allowing hedonism eventually shifts a society from "opt-out" to "opt-in" morality--which has devastating effects to everyone as opposed to the degenerates who would've been that way anyway.
>pandering to a small minority
Who's pandering?
What exactly am I saying that you think I'd benefit from?
So some dudes want to fuck other dudes either as well as or instead of women.
What the fuck does that have to do with me?
I don't want to have sex with other dudes.
But I'd high five a dude for banging some bro he wanted to, because that's what he wants (and, hopefully, what his bro wanted, and if not then there'd be problems, but that's rarely the case).
Like, there are fucking alien species out there. Almost certainly, given the amount of habitable planets that might sustain life similar to our own.
What the fuck are you wasting your time on?
Just let it go, dude.
You gay? Cool. You not? Cool. What the fuck does anybody care about this chismoso bullshit in the fist place for fucking Christ-Buddha-Zeus-Vishna-Zarathustra-Great-Fucking-Spirit's sake?
I'm so done.
It's like ramming my fucking head into a wall and wondering where the blood's coming from.
It's not the wall.
>I'm thinking of becoming a porn actress atm.
Are you trolling? If I were him, I'd reject you on the spot for even considering that. Just off yourself before doing something so disgusting, and I take back what I said about contacting him. You don't deserve him. Your issue isn't with being dumb. It's with being the lowest of whores.
>Who's pandering?
The legal and social structures of the society I live in.
>What the fuck does that have to do with me?
A lot, from how your behavior and interests align with those of your fellow deviants.
>I'd high five a dude for banging some bro he wanted to, because that's what he wants
Would I get a high-five for telling faggots to get the fuck out of my shop? That's what I want.
>What the fuck does anybody care
I already told you. They value something other than base pleasure or selfish entitlement. If you want to fuck off and create a society of your own based off of given values, go right ahead, but in the current paradigm it's a winner-takes-all system, where no society can function without a single set of norms and values. I'm not going to let the fags win if I can help it.
>What is this I can't even right now
Take it back to plebbit.
>Flaunting your lust for cock in public, which they do, you disingenuous shitbag.
Yeah. Because they like cock. If you like pussy, then you're gonna flaunt the fact that you do in public.
That's sort of how it works.
Are you literally a fucking robot?
I mean, honestly, I have to wonder at this point, and like if you are, I'm not mad, but it explains a lot if you've never humaned.
>by definition they are already dead weight at best.
Yeah, I'm disengaging at this point, because "dead weight" implies that gay people are somehow taking more resources than they are contributing toward, and that's actually economically provable as untrue.
>But a society of total freedom of action will quickly reach an equilibrium which has anything but that, and people's options are always going to be passively restricted at minimum, even if you refuse to take direct action. In the case of hedonists, you will quickly devalue what fragile remnants of morality and community remain, since your primary concern is with ego-driven pleasure.
Yeah, I know where my ego is. I don't pretend otherwise. Who doesn't have one, though? If you have a body, you have an ego, and that's what gets you through the moments where you're pretty sure it would be better to blow your brains out or jump off a bridge or something and just disappear.
You either believe you have a reason to exist or you don't, and I'm hoping this all works out for the best.
So far, it's been shit.
>Now, even you will admit to limits based on other considerations, I assume. Can a child consent to sex, for example? Why or why not? I have an idea of how you'll answer, but I'm curious to see if either of my predictions is right.
Dafuq niqqa? Why are you even asking that? A child is someone who has no knowledge of their sexuality. Like, you remember being a child, right? Or maybe you don't. I don't know.
>The legal and social structures of the society I live in.
No. That's not how that works.
Pandering means that you are playing to an audience for specific social or financial capital.
"Legal and social structures" aren't allowed to pander, you phlancostomous sparplasm.
>your fellow deviants
Again, you fail to explain what exactly I and my fellow deviants are deviating from.
It's just what you don't like, right?
Because if you're fucking god, or you think you're anywhere near any kind of omniscience that I'd recognize as such...
Well, then, you have a lot of fucking work to do.
Shouldn't be hard, you being god and all.
But prove it.
You haffleweitzing turd-snorgler.
>If you like pussy, then you're gonna flaunt the fact that you do in public.
Exhibitionism and obscenity isn't tolerable regardless of who does it, retard. It's just that your typical fag is much more inclined to do so.
>"dead weight" implies that gay people are somehow taking more resources than they are contributing toward, and that's actually economically provable
A society is not an economy, and I'd imagine hedonists like you would be the first to say so. Don't pretend that's what I care about. It's also an economic fact that 'sex sells'. That doesn't mean I don't want to keep criminalizing things like prostitution, because of the social damage that results. And don't misunderstand my position--I am not interested in fully eradicating degeneracy. That can't be done. I am interested in eradicating degenerate influence on public standards, which is simple. You want to fuck people in the ass? Fine. But it should never be acknowledged as okay by the social structure at large, lest others be tempted into it. The onus should be on you to fulfill your degeneracy, not on society to climb out of it.
>A child is someone who has no knowledge of their sexuality.
And? You said it's clear that consent is enough. I bring this up as a reductio ad absurdum, to test the assertion and show that even you have limits which come from outside of this hedonist 'value' (or lack thereof).
>Pandering means that you are playing to an audience for specific social or financial capital.
Blow it out your ass, pic related.
>you fail to explain what exactly I and my fellow deviants are deviating from.
Standards conducive to a healthy and stable society. Promiscuity is tremendously damaging to marriage when you compare it to abstention. I derive my opinions primarily from two factors: whether something is sustainable and whether it promotes contentment. Hedonism does neither for society.
>Exhibitionism and obscenity isn't tolerable regardless of who does it, retard. It's just that your typical fag is much more inclined to do so.
Lol, you're so full of shit right now you don't even know it.
What's exhibitionism other than displaying you want to have sex with?
I mean, if it's not, then it's just your genitals being exposed publicly.
Maybe that was your choice, maybe not.
But what is your choice is what you want exhibited to whomever you want to sex with.
Are you like literally not aware of this?
Typical fags aren't any more likely to whip their dicks out than anyone else.
What are you even talking about, you fizzlewit?
>That doesn't mean I don't want to keep criminalizing things like prostitution, because of the social damage that results
Hey, we agree. Criminalizing prostitution is socially damaging.
>I am interested in eradicating degenerate influence on public standards, which is simple. You want to fuck people in the ass? Fine. But it should never be acknowledged as okay by the social structure at large, lest others be tempted into it. The onus should be on you to fulfill your degeneracy, not on society to climb out of it.
No, I don't want to fuck people in the ass. I think that's been clarified. But if people do, and they find others who want to be fucked in the ass, then like, good jorb, mang.
That's not degenerate, or anything that "society" has to "climb out of."
>even you have limits which come from outside of this hedonist 'value' (or lack thereof).
Even me? Who the fuck am I? I'm just a rational person in a body. You need me to be some kind of gross thing that you imagine that I'm not going to be. Sorry. Not gonna happen. Humans are humans, you plhelobtacon.
>Blow it out your ass, pic related.
Yeah, I know what it means. I don't need the fucking internet to tell me.
>healthy and stable society.
Yeah... tell me when we get there, sir faffleweiser of the order of phlefflesplaps.
Ngl, this is pretty cute lol
>Typical fags aren't any more likely to whip their dicks out than anyone else.
How many pride parades do we have again?
>Criminalizing prostitution is socially damaging.
Prostitution is socially damaging--I said "that doesn't mean I don't want to criminalize".
>That's not degenerate, or anything that "society" has to "climb out of."
Of course it is, you just don't value anything that would be negatively impacted by your degeneracy.
merriam-webster.com
>: one that is degenerate (see DEGENERATE entry 1) : such as
>a : one degraded from the normal moral standard
>b : a sexual pervert
You are rejecting the negative connotation of the word--the word itself has a clear meaning.
>No, I don't want to fuck people in the ass
Is English your second language? I was using "you" as a generic label. Not that it matters to the point, but hey, you needed something to feel "right" on.
>Even me? You need me to be some kind of gross thing that you imagine that I'm not going to be.
Nice way to dodge the point. Your claim was that as long as there's consent, it's okay. Then on what grounds do you say that sex with children is unacceptable? There's obviously something other than individual choice. And you can also have children who are much smarter than many adults. Why can't you fuck them? I say "even" you because you're far more degenerate than I am, yet you still don't follow the logical conclusion of your professed beliefs. Therefore, you are either a liar or you have given an incomplete set of your values. I'm betting on the latter.
>I know what it means.
Evidently not, since you arbitrarily declared that systems can't pander.
>we can't stop all murders so we might as well stop prosecuting murderers
Very disingenuous.
Bu the way, do you have a program to generate your insults, or are you just autistic?
>How many pride parades do we have again?
Pride parades aren't about whipping your dick out, you succoran flipandorbatch.
>Prostitution is socially damaging
To whom?
If somebody want to sell their body, it's their fucking body.
You could sell yours. You just don't want to.
Neither do I.
So what?
Let people do what they want. It's no skin off your back.
>merriam-webster.com
Okay, first of all - I could define "stupid" as that which is not smart, and then affix that label to you, but I'm not doing that.
It's a bullshit move.
I'm here. You can talk to me. You don't need a fucking dictionary because I'm fluent in English.
>I was using "you" as a generic label.
No, you weren't. You still suspect that I actually am gay, and might want to fuck people in the ass.
I want you to think that. I'm totally unafraid of it, in fact.
That matters to the point, because I honestly think that if you thought I was gay, you'd think I was lesser, and that's the whole fucking problem here.
>Your claim was that as long as there's consent, it's okay. Then on what grounds do you say that sex with children is unacceptable?
Because children don't know what they're consenting to, you pffeffenwiesenbelungschiederskieven.
Jesus Christ are you even human?
>To whom?
To everyone who lives in the society where it is rife. You go and look at the typical prostitute, and tell me that they're living happy and fulfilling lives. The whores themselves are only a part of the problem--the 'customers' are devaluing sexual morality every time they buy a 'service'.
>Okay, first of all - I could define "stupid" as that which is not smart, and then affix that label to you
Knuckledraggers of all sorts call their opponents "stupid", but it's rarely accurate and never is it for the right reasons. If I value certain things, there are going to be optimal and non-optimal ways of achieving them. One is stupid if they pick an objectively poor method of reaching their values. One is not stupid for having a given value.
>You don't need a fucking dictionary because I'm fluent in English.
Evidently I do, since you like to argue semantics and then get asshurt when I show you that I'm using words in the proper sense. Or perhaps you'd like to explain how a legal system can't pander (per the definition you claim you don't need, "indulge") to gays. Don't want me to bring up the dictionary? Then get the definitions right on your own.
>No, you weren't.
Tell yourself what you want, but remember it's a baseless fabrication and still irrelevant to the argument at hand.
>I honestly think that if you thought I was gay, you'd think I was lesser, and that's the whole fucking problem here
Nonsense. I think you're already a subhuman, you being gay or not has very little to do with it.
>Because children don't know what they're consenting to
So if you show a kid porn, then they can consent? Can't you just explain it beforehand? Say, "I'm going to do this with my penis" and then ask them?
Maybe they have to have experience? But if that's the case, then nobody could consent to sex because we're all born virgins.
Come on, you know that's not why. I want you to admit it: there is more to your values than 'freedom of choice'.
Dump him and date me.