The British lost ww2 change my mind

Before ww2 Britain was the major world power with a ton of colonies.
They refused to side with Hitler and refused any peace offer later which didn't ask for any concession besides what Germany already had.
In order to build an army from almost nothing they spent trough an insane amount of capital that had been accumulating for over a century. Most of this money went to the us for everything from tanks to raw materials to oil. To keep the colonies loyal the offered them independence after the war.
During the war their merchant navy was seriously affected.
Practically rather than side with Hitler or let him have France the British govt. Lost all its accumulated capital, gained massive debt, turned into an American puppet and directly lead to the loss of the colonies, also British industry was heavily affected. Even if they lost the war they would not have received such harsh terms. The UK lost everything, their empire, their power, their resources, a massive amount of wealth, their independence and their desire to achieve.

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>Change my mind
No need. Britbongs attempt to delude themselves by acting like they won when in reality they were just a bullet sponge that soaked up German resources until the Americans could start the real fight, much like the Soviets were.

They didn't need to side with Hitler. They literally just refused to give Danzig to Germany while occupying India and half of Africa. Can't have that.

we destroyed a french fleet in ww2 so can you really say we lost?

>major world power with a ton of colonies
Colonies are only a strength in peace time. There was literally no reason to enter that war and we could have fought the red menace together and BTFO'd the kike from Europe. Wasn't meant to be. I wonder how that timeline would have played out.

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The French did successfully sink more of their own ships than the British ever did, or enyone else.

Its at the stage now where the homeland is being colonized and mopped up by the long lost colonies. But at least Prussia remains disconnected from the fatherland.

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You are not wrong, user.
However, I think that they won the war but the two other powers were anti-British to the core: The Soviet Union and the United States.

With all Churchil's faggotry about muh English Speaking Peoples, Brits essentially got fucked by the U.S. after the war.
The hatred of the Judeo-Americans for the English knows no bounds.

It became clear to all how Britain was considered a non power by America during the 1956 Suez Canal crisis.

The UK also had lots of technology it volutarly offered the U.S.
The U.S. not only took it but made it a point of making almost impossible for Brits to maintain and create new technology.

Anyway, on the political side, you can check based Buchannan's World War II the Unecessary War.

Britain after the war also accepted parity with loser France, because Britain did not want to be the only big power in Europe. Britain rightly understood that it was no match for the Soviet Union but Britain failed in its thinking that the Americans would prefer to have a strong Britain as a preferential partner to a unified Franco-German Europe.

After WWII Britain could have kept most of its possessions, it chose not to in order to not go against the U.S.

Moral of the story: It was more the U.S. than the Germans that destroyed the power of the Brits.

>Britain went to war to keep its Empire, to prevent an hegemonic power in continental Europe and to keep Communism weak and at bay.
>It failed in all of these.

Basically it was the British 1204 crusader sack. You survived but now the empire is on borrowed time.

Hitler's plan was to exterminate the British working class. Given that this didn't happen, it can be said we won.

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Your lower classes are inferior desu

Some of the royal family even supported the nazis, did they know about the jews and why didn't they do more to help hitler?

"Some dude read a report about some discussion"

Absolutely believeable.

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ALL native europeans worldwide lost in 1945!

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Fact 1: Hitler definitely did call british working class "racially inferior"
Fact 2: What the nazis did to those they viewed as racially inferior across europe is well documented.
Fact 3: You are retarded

Im pretty sure one of the things that amplified all of this is the election of Labour after the war. By American standards they are extremely left wing and economically they definitely deepened the hole you were in.

Probably bullshit and anyway late 43 and early 44 the Germans were pretty pissed at the British bombings. The Germans before the British bombed Berlin never targeted civilians. Hitler hold back on uneccesary violence against the UK for very long. Than after the bombing of Berlin you got the vengance weapons (V1 V2 etc.)and the carpet bombings of British cities.

>Tories
I never get why libertarians right are associate with pedophilia

Imagine thinking this isn’t justification propaganda.
Hitler is on record stating multiple times that he sees the UK as his fellow aryans

>Hitler called me a mean name
Literally, who fucking cares? If Hitler had attacked Britain then fine, we would war, but the way it played out was not ideal. WW2 was a disaster for Europe and it didn't have to play out the way it did. Also, Hitler was not a diplomat, he was a warrior and built an army that meant business, so if we had politicians with even half a brain we would have handled it differently bearing in mind what happened last time.

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I think it is WW I that meant the loss of European power (GB included), a huge loss of lives, economic struggle, destruction. But it was not evident at the time. Meanwhile the countries that did not participate in the war had a golden moment, US included that entered late and had no war at home. Europe did not really recover and WW II was the killing blow, especially the US-USSR repartition of Europe, later the expulsion of Europeans from Africa to make way to US or USSR influence. Huge immigration of talented people to the US that brought big impulse there. Still most of scientific advances are European for a long time but the US is very efficient making profit of them.
There were huge German and UK scientific advances during the WW II but the profit went elsewhere.
The real white guilt problem and the decision to fill the UK with immigrants was a 1960 and later thing.

and that's a good thing, the only good bong is a dead bong.

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Nice jewish flag you got there

The only territories worth keeping long-term (Canada, Australia, New Zealand) were already granted independence in the interwar period. Nothing to do with external powers, just lack of statesmanship (and probably internal issues).

WW2 was a kind of continuation of Anglo-German rivalry that emerged with WW1 and failed to reach a conclusion, after the century or so of relative peace. The two superpowers that came after, Russia and the US, were in fundamentally better positions.

That was the fate of my generation in 1914, and that was the doom of a new generation of young soldiers in 1939. The youth of Europe shed the blood of their own family, and the jackals of the world grew fat. Those who fought are in the position of the conquered, whatever their country. Those who did not fight, but merely profited, alone are victorious.

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