It doesn't feel like I'm asking too much, I want a girl who can wow me. She doesn't have to be a knockout but I don't want to be repulsed by her. If she's not great looking then she'll have to be assertive or smart enough to get my attention, otherwise she's hasn't displayed value.
Even if she's gorgeous I'm probably not going to go out of my way to engage her. I'd rather pursue someone who feels "socially available". This is the kicker, women who are authentic and open right off the bat are already in relationships 90% of the time. I'm guessing being single often makes women more shy.
If a person seems like they'll take work for them to open up, I simply drop them. I think this is the greatest reason I can't get a date.
You'll never find one. Women have nothing else to offer than their pussy. Looking for a wonderful woman is like looking for a needle in a haystack.
Oliver Campbell
Yea I know. They're like >drop your standards but then uggo doesn't even make my dick hard. What's the point?! What kind of relationship am I suppose to enter?
Easton Harris
>why doesn't the perfect life partner just fall into my lap? >what am I doing wrong that the universe hasn't rewarded me with the ideal woman?
Colton Edwards
I agree with you OP, up until >If a person seems like they'll take work for them to open up, I simply drop them. You will be alone forever if you don't put in at least SOME effort. Doesn't even have to be a lot, but you can't just expect someone to exist for only your benefit.
Bentley Morales
That's a bit pessimistic don't you think?
I think the issue is that women don't want to date a man who doesn't find them attractive. I don't feel like I'd be doing anyone a service by dating someone that I don't even enjoy looking at.
Your sarcastic tone is odd considering you're directly addressing my question. It would make more sense for you to respond like that if I was talking about how unfair my situation was or how awful women are.
Julian Ross
It's a problem of motivation. I don't want to be nice to people and give them the benefit of the doubt because people so rarely do the same for me. If I wasn't so anxious and depressed all the time it would be a lot easier to engage in such one sided exchanges but I'm just worn out from the get-go
Andrew Ward
'drop your standards' say only ugly or fat woman because nobody wants them. There's no point in getting involved with a girl whose appearance you don't like. So its better to be alone than force yourself into a relationship with an ugly girl no matter how wonderful her personality is.
Landon Cruz
We shouldn't be so unkind brother. There are people out there who will date unattractive women. We don't need to put them down anonymously and harm their self esteem. That's coward shit
Matthew Nguyen
>if I was talking about how unfair my situation was >It doesn't feel like I'm asking too much asking of who? Oh right, the universe to gift you a person who exists for your sole benefit. You're whining that you can't find good women when you refuse to put in any effort. Sorry, no unseen force of karmic justice is going to airdrop you an ideal bride just because you haven't stabbed a homeless man lately.
Dylan Morgan
>a dude who is probably at best average makes demands
Look, it's either a fat single mom for you or nothing. Embrace celibacy and stfu.
Noah Gray
lol you mad
Pfft so are you
Thomas Gutierrez
>There are people out there who will date unattractive women Not my problem, dude. What kind of sex life would I have if you can't make my dick hard? Just getting naked should do it if you're >6/10. So you enter a relationship with 0 sex life. What is that: best pals, conversation couple?! TF is that?
Angel Ross
I'm not the one whining about being single, you are because you can't handle that you aren't good enough for the type of girl you want, much less for making these girls approach you, ever.
Joshua Anderson
>It's a problem of motivation I see where you're coming from because I'm in the same boat, but I look at it this way: >If I don't want to put in the time/effort to get a decent girlfriend, why would a girl who doesn't want to put in time/effort to get a boyfriend pick me? It takes two to tango and all that.
Xavier Rivera
You may not actually be fit for dating now. Get therapy and work on your mental health for a while
Ryder Fisher
I'm not whining. I'm discussing.
I understand how attraction works. I work out, I go to college, I work hard at my job, I dress well and I groom. I don't expect any woman to be attracted to me for no reason. I work for it. I just wish that men and women could share the pain of the initial stages of relationships. I'm not angry at them but I must admit I'm a little immobilized
>It takes two to tango and all that. Exactly. I can do everything but the first step
Eh I'll get better
Dominic Walker
You're entitled to your opinion but I wish you wouldn't express it with such venom.
Blake Baker
>It takes two to tango and all that. >Exactly. I can do everything but the first step So going back to your earlier reply to me about how you hate opening up just to be benched, then don't open up? I would say hang out with the person once, maybe twice, and if you don't think they are being genuine then just don't ask them again. If they ask you out from that point, then you know there is some interest and you can hopefully put your head in the game. I don't have any other helpful points of view after this post, sorry.
Logan Mitchell
>venom ? Dude I'm just honest and asking question. Wtf is that type of relationship anyway?
Isaiah Ortiz
Heh, that's good advice but it's also how I tend to do things already. I think my best option is to try to increase the my frequency of the dates I go on but I just got banned on Tinder so I'll need to make the jump to IRL bars, ugh
Mason Lee
I agree with you dude, a relationship without sexual fidelity doesn't work for most people. I just thought you were being a dick.