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Very important video.
Jewish leaders rejected Christ, even though their own book told them he would be the messiah, because Jesus loved the world and not only them.
The Jewish leaders REFUSE to read this verse in synagogues because it nullifies their entire religion and if you read it in public you are viciously attacked.
Share this video with every Jewish person you know.
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Jesus wasn't even a real person, you Jewish cocksucker.
>pic related
very good
Deus Vult
>Look mom! I posted it again!
How pathetic.
pic related is the author
Looks kosher
>How pathetic.
Look mom! I sucked 10 Jewish cocks today!
>they used muh Bayesian probability to calculate the likelihood of Jesus being real
just ... don't believe everything that is printed on paper would be my advice to you, user.
>just ... don't believe everything that is printed on paper would be my advice to you, user.
Discard the Bayesian stuff if you like, the conclusion is the same. Jesus wasn't a real person and extant bible texts more or less prove that.
that's true, also prone to schizophrenia.
>muh savior
Look around you wtf did he save?
our souls.
can you say the same?
>The people who used nuclear and chimical weapons on civilians is gonna teach me on having a soul
Repent, sinner.
I don't stand by the actions of my Zionist occupied government.
If you don't want to burn in Hell, repent. Accept Christ.
You'll be hated by your people for it, but you'll be at peace.
I bet you sucked on something kike
>expecting someone without a soul to learn
Jews gonna Jew for that very reason.
The author was literally a cuck you retard
>it says so in this book so it must be true
wow
>I bet you sucked on something kike
>Sucks Jewish cock all day
>Goes to church every Sunday
>Sucks more Jewish cock
>Wakes up on Monday morning
>Sends kids to a Jewish cocksucking school
>Calls other people kikes
>The author was literally a cuck you retard
Maybe, but what does that have to do with Jesus not existing?
We're just going to ignore that spoken Hebrew sounds like a TB ward reciting tongue-twisters?
You're calling user a fag but yoir author literally was. And your retarded
He's a cuck, and because of that he lashes out at his dad, and by extension religion.
It's called projection. You should be familiar with it, faggot.
Kek imagine having jews on our side. All the jewish autism applied to Christianity.
Oy vey if I take communion and confess everyday I will be sinless!
if it's well documented that Nero blamed Christians for burning Rome and well documented that true Christians were used in the circus as entertainment for to be slaughter and executed for their beliefs, how us it that Jesus never existed?
>And your retarded
Maybe, but at least I know how to spell 'you're', you filthy kike.
The non-historicity of Jesus is a well-worn trope of autistic neckbeards who read half a book and are angry that they're not the secret kings they think they are.
>chimical weapons
alchemical weapoons
>soul
Stop being such a Jew.
Our weapons save lives.
I'm sorry God cursed you, but you deserved it.
also pic related is my town.
>if it's well documented that Nero blamed Christians for burning Rome
Unfortunately it's not well-documented at all, as you would know if you had read a single book on the subject.
The report from Tacitus reports that Nero blamed the fire on someone else entirely. Later Christian scribes scratched out the name and wrote Jesus over the top, not realising that later generations would invent x-ray machines that could detect the original ink.
a great example of kikery tactics. such a flawed analogy couldn't be explained better other than a sheer hatrd and rejection of reason.
>The non-historicity of Jesus is a well-worn trope of autistic neckbeards who read half a book and are angry that they're not the secret kings they think they are.
Possibly, but if Jesus' non-existence is a retarded obsession of a few neckbeards, why can't a single one of you Christcucks debunk it?
>proving a negative
That jewish IQ at work
God want's his detractors. It's plainly obvious. He could snap his fingers and waste Satan tomorrow. But he loves the game.
i never heard about that shit until now, but what i can deduct from the title 'non-historicty of the guy whos birthday is basis of our time measurment' is pretty something that i won't waste my time on, so pls quick gestalt or fuck off
The wheat is being separated from the chaff. We are seeing this everywhere. The lines are being drawn. Prepare yourselves accordingly.
i agree, modern architecture is garbage. we need to go back.
Debunk what? The entire argument is that there are no records of Jesus. Except there are, but the neckbeards engage special pleading to ignore them and then stand around going "that all you got?" like they achieved something.
It is the worst of all atheist arguments.
>Later Christian scribes scratched out the name and wrote Jesus over the top, not realising that later generations would invent x-ray machines that could detect the original ink.
source?
>so pls quick gestalt or fuck off
The Gospels are just collections of stories from the Old Testament, rewritten with Jesus at the centre of the action, rather than Abraham/Moses/David etc
St Paul literally writes that all his knowledge of Jesus comes from dreams
All the supposed references to Jesus in non-biblical manuscripts actually date from the 180s AD, and usually much later than that
tl;dr - There is no evidence for a historical Jesus, but some evidence that early Christians believed in a purely imaginary Jesus
>source?
Pic related. It's an ultra-violet image of the altered manuscript.
why do you insist on being a joke? should i mention the historians who mentioned the name of a person named jesus? Josephus, Tacitus, Talmud? are they all in the same conspiracy here?
Yeah bible followers are pretty wacky.
>The following description of Jesus Christ was written by Publius Lentrelus, a resident of Judea in the reign of Tiberius Caesar.
this guy even drew a picture
oh wow this post on this image board proves it
I would totally subscribe to this theory if I was a teenager with Christian parents that I wanted to piss off
Source not required. The old argument to toss out Tacitus was that all of his works came to us through interpolation and therefore were probably altered by Christian scholars.
Saying "WE PROVED IT USING X-RAYS" is just the latest special pleading.
>Josephus
No Josephus manuscript before the 4th century contains any mention of Jesus, as you would already know if you had actually read it
>Tacitus
The earliest surviving manuscript literally doesn't contain a single mention of Jesus
>Talmud
Written at least 300-500 years after Jesus' supposed death. Why do you think the Talmud is relevant?
This guy again
>The following description of Jesus Christ was written by Publius Lentrelus,
You fucking moron. The Publius Lentulus letter was written in medieval Latin. Unless Lentulus invented a time machine it cannot possible be authentic.
what the fuck is wrong with you neckbeards?
do you really consider yourself intelligent at being skeptic about something that has 2k years of written history, real people giving their much better arguments about whole story (Saints) etc.
my quick rundown:
>The Gospels are just collections of stories from the Old Testament, rewritten with Jesus at the centre of the action, rather than Abraham/Moses/David etc
this is biased oppinion rather than fact, you can use Pinocchio as a false story written around Pinocchio, it's stupid to consider it argument, since you have nothing except presumption
>St Paul literally writes that all his knowledge of Jesus comes from dreams
i won't comment this it's plain retarded cherry picking out of the content
>All the supposed references to Jesus in non-biblical manuscripts actually date from the 180s AD, and usually much later than that
>tl;dr - There is no evidence for a historical Jesus, but some evidence that early Christians believed in a purely imaginary Jesus
hurr durr there is no evidence about jesus because all of the writings start 180 years after [his] birthday
really? are you all down-syndromed?
>oh wow this post on this image board proves it
This is one of the famous famous (or notorious, depending on your point of view) images in classical history and his been reprinted a thousand times in various textbooks over the last century.
Of course, you'd already know that if you actually read books.
It's almost like the writers of what became the new testament had access to the Tanakh or something and could make their story fit it.
nice source you got there dude
For real guise, we all know Jesus was just the KONY2012 of Judea.
>No, FUCK YOU DAD!
>this is biased oppinion rather than fact
Maybe, but how many of the arguments have you read? Ever read the Jesus Gospel by the Jesus Seminar? I think it's a lousy piece of shit, but that's because I have actually read it. How many of these scholarly debates have you read?
>>St Paul literally writes that all his knowledge of Jesus comes from dreams
>i won't comment this it's plain retarded cherry picking out of the content
WTF are you talking about? Paul NEVER writes about anything that Jesus did and NEVER writes about anything that Jesus said, and ONLY writes that his knowledge of Jesus comes from dreams.
What is your explanation for these facts?
>really? are you all down-syndromed?
If you want to demonstrate that your intellect is far superior to mine, you can answer the questions above.
holy shit.. is the messaiah Trump? how were the books so good at predicting stuff thousands of years afterwards?
such an eye opener
>nice source you got there dude
Read it and weep, you Jewish cocksucker
>lol you'd know if you read books
>i've only ever read these 4 books that say Jesus did not real
I wish kikes would quit being kikes. Most of them are actually pretty decent people. If they would quit undermining their host nations and be normal everyone would be happier.
are you implying that Josephus manuscripts were later edited after the 4th century?
tacitus mentions the curcifixion of jesus christ by pilate, he's the single most trusted non christian source to support that claim.
wrong, talmud was sealed 300-500 years after Jesus' supposed death. Talmud is simply a collection of discussions, and it is estimated to be written around 200 A.D, probably after the destruction of the temple.
None of your arguments can debunk the existence of Christ. There are many fairly unkown historians in the region who also did confirm some of the stories mentioned in the New Testament. I'm afarid you are a shill, trying to discredit Christianity, and while there some flaws in it, you cannot debunk the existence of Christ - you may say he wasn't divine, but he certainly did exist and it is confirmed and accepted widely. I personally view the triumph of Christianity and how it shaped modern day civilization as the proof to Jesus divinity.
>If you want to demonstrate that your intellect is far superior to mine, you can answer the questions above.
first of all, intellect has nothing to do with how many (quantity) things you have read, nor I'm going to compete with you with numbers
secondly, you haven't answered highly illogical standpoint from that book of yours - how can you measure 180 years from Jesus's birthday if Jesus didn't exist at all?
>I wish kikes would quit being kikes. Most of them are actually pretty decent people
>Most of them are actually pretty decent people
That's just them being subversive kikes
Why would the Talmud blaspheme so viciously someone who didn't even exist? tell me please.
>Tacitus is junk, they crossed out and changed the name
>Here's proof that somebody probably made a typo
Neckbeard science at its best
>Saul converted and became Paul
>Went from a respected scholar to a persecuted pariah
>Did it for the lulz because Jesus did not real
This is what neckbeards actually think.
>are you implying that Josephus manuscripts were later edited after the 4th century?
Yes, because although the earliest surviving manuscripts of Josephus' "Antiquities of the Jews" is from the 11th century, it was a widely-read text and many ancient scholars wrote commentaries on it. No less than six of those commentaries from the 2nd and 3rd centuries still survive.
We know what was in the earliest Josephus manuscripts because the commentaries tell us.
>are you implying that Josephus manuscripts were later edited after the 4th century?
No, I am stating (not implying) that they were edited in the 4th century, probably by Eusebius.
>I'll have you know that it says "Chrestianos" here! That means Jesus never existed!
>tacitus mentions the curcifixion of jesus christ by pilate
But he didn't. The ultra-violet images I posted above prove that it's a forgery.
>None of your arguments can debunk the existence of Christ.
What is your explanation for St Paul's claim that all his knowledge of Jesus comes from dreams?
Did you seriously just answer the same question first with a yes and then with a no?
Atheists are morons. These are wolves that have teeth pulled out, and instead of biting, they can only suck cock.
The global predictor (a group called the secret world government) consists of believers - all research and investigations have shown. They do not hide the fact that they are fighting for the coming of the Antichrist. No matter who they are - Satanists or Kabbalists, they are united by their doctrine, this is hermetic doctrine, the doctrine of secret knowledge.
Christianity is not a hermetic religion, so in order to destroy Christianity and give way to the Antichrist, they make a diversion. They introduce the denial of the reality of Jesus, they introduce the idea that Christianity is hermetic, that there is something that the church hides from us. In this way they pave the way for their secret doctrine, the religion of Antichrist, which should become dominant in the world.
Atheists should ask the question - if Jesus does not exist, why does the global predictor fight with him?
>The ultra-violet image I posted, showing that someone changed the word "chrestianos" to "christianos", proves that the whole thing is a forgery
Incorrect.
>how can you measure 180 years from Jesus's birthday if Jesus didn't exist at all?
Lol WTF are you talking about, you moron?
You know that we didn't start numbering years after Jesus birth until the 800s, right?
>Paul literally meets Jesus' brother
>IT WUZ ALL DREEMS
I want to believe in christianity but I can't bring myself blindly believe in god or jesus, I was atheist normie until the last 6 months more or less, now my state is that I think he might exist but I don't really sure or know if he is, and if there is a god is he christian god, or some universal deity. I tend to think universal deity but I don't know and for some reason I have attachment to christianity and it's values.
I just want to find russian Israeli christian qt, what do?
t.russian jew
He wasn't tho , he died and mashiah can't die
>Why would the Talmud blaspheme so viciously someone who didn't even exist? tell me please.
Because the Talmud was written between the years 300-500, by which time anyone who actually might have met Jesus had already been dead for centuries
>>I'll have you know that it says "Chrestianos" here! That means Jesus never existed!
No, but it means that we just don't know who Tacitus was writing about, therefore we can't use it as evidence for a historical Jesus.
Even if it's a misspelling of Christ, Christ is a title, not a name. There were literally hundreds of Jews wandering around the holy land claiming to be a Messiah; Tacitus could have been writing about any one of them. (In fact, it's much more likely that he is writing about John the Baptist than our Jesus.)
OK dude, so it was all edited and forged by a Roman conspiracy co-opted by Jewish traitors in order to dismantle Judaism from within I guess?
he didn't die, and that's the whole point, that's why we have resurrection and he's alive today
stop being ignorant jew
>Did you seriously just answer the same question first with a yes and then with a no?
Do I look like the kind of person who talks to meme flags?
You are willingly blind.
>these goal posts are heavy!
>how far do I have to move them this time?
The earliest followers of Jesus happily endured total ostracisation and even martyrdom - the simplest explanation is they saw him alive.
>We don't know whether this guy he was writing about was named Chrest or Christ
>WHAT IF SOMEONE NAMED CHREST JUST HAPPENED TO BE GOING AROUND STARTING TROUBLE, HUH???????
>CH-CHRIST IS A TITLE!!
This is the worst coping I have ever seen.
>No, but it means that we just don't know who Tacitus was writing about, therefore we can't use it as evidence for a historical Jesus.
means
>we can't use it as evidence for historical Jesus because we have presumption that spelling magically proves our argument
top kek
If he's alive then where is he bro ?
>>Paul literally meets Jesus' brother
Nice try Schlomo, except that the original Greek text of Galatians doesn't say that James the Just was Jesus' biological brother. Something you would already know if you had actually studied it.
>He wasn't tho , he died and mashiah can't die
1) He was seen by HUNDREDS of people after his death.
2) The stones doors which covered his tomb had seals on them. If removed or tampered with, the punishment was death.
3) Over 30 guards were at his tomb the the day of his burial, and 3 days later. Nobody saw anything.
4) Most scholars, Agnostic and Christian alike, agree that Jesus's existence is one of the most provable facts in history
5) There is not one bit of evidence he died. There was no body. No skeleton. No remains.
Well you already responded to me, so yeah.
Planning to either kill or covert you, kike.
>OK dude, so it was all edited and forged by a Roman conspiracy co-opted by Jewish traitors in order to dismantle Judaism from within I guess?
You know that Joseph Atwill is certifiably insane, right...?
was jesus god in a physical body, or was jesus a entirely seperate person.
he's here with me, we drink beer and laugh at kids like you
>The earliest followers of Jesus happily endured total ostracisation and even martyrdom
There are exactly zero ancient manuscripts describing those events. It's all church propaganda from later centuries.
>we can't use it as evidence for historical Jesus because we have presumption that spelling magically proves our argument
We can use the Tacitus passage as evidence for a historical Jesus if we think the probability of its authenticity is better than 50%.
Unfortunately (1) the manuscript has been altered and (2) we don't know who it is describing anyway and (3) therefore only a moron would describe the probability as better than 50%
>Jews still using Gods Chosen People whenever possible
>leave out the part where Jesus was killed by Jews and then His death was a form of purification to leave the old ways behind and become Christians
>muh ancient manuscripts which are basically scarcity about all of the other facts of human endevour but i choose the lack of these in my specific niche to prove my theories
you're a joke