Is it true that very attractive women are lonely...

Is it true that very attractive women are lonely? Is it because no one has the courage to approach or because they are so demanding and can't find a guy they want?

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Some, not all.

Many attractive women have a hard time understanding reality because so many guys lie to them about 'how smart' and 'how interesting' they are because they just want to fuck them

You can really notice this effect if you find a girl in her early 20's who is smoking hot, but was not attractive in high-school. She would have been forced to develop a personality and she'll have a better grip on reality.

Both, in my experience.
>lonely
People assume she already has a bf, or that she is vain and stuck up and mean. Sort of an opposite halo effect.
>demanding
Since people tend to missjudge them, they tend to be bitchy in self defence when tried and insisting in approaching, keeping the weak ones away. But also yeah, high overall standards are true, but in a "be on my level or better" way

>t.had such a gf

Very attractive women can get most of what they want. If they realize they're lonely, its usually because they've surrounded themselves with superficial people or neglected their morals for the sake of indulgence.

In the modern age, 90% of your problems are caused by your own actions and being lonely is no different.

>In the modern age, 90% of your problems are caused by your own actions and being lonely is no different.
I can hear Jow Forums reeeeeeeeeeing about this one from here

While Jow Forums is reeeeeeeeing because it's true, it's not the whole truth.
You do pay for own actions, but many times you couldn't help the fact you didn't get any social experience in highschool because you were getting bullied or your family was mess, thus you don't know how to talk to people in your 20s+ and you're stuck for life.

>you're stuck for life.
this is a fallacy

you're not stuck for life, but if you believe it you won't ever get out and you'll make it come true

I haven't heard about anyone ever making it and from personal experience it's almost impossible.
On one hand, you don't want people to realise how much of a loser you are.
On the other, you can't get close enough to become friends with people without risking them finding out how much of a social failure you are.
There's literally no way out.

Home for the summer where I have no friends. How do I stop being lonely and meet people in the 18-24 age range then? I am will try but just have no clue on earth where to even start.

Personally, I learned to become socially adept in my early 20's

I was not very cool in highschool, I was small, a nerd, and not super popular, got bullied. I did make some good friends in the last two years but then, I went off to university and was super depressed for the first two years.

Since then I have become really good at socializing and have built up a good group of friends.

>have built up a good group of friends.
How did you do this? Going into second year of uni and really want to make the most and gain the type of circle other friends and acquaintances do have.

Some are, but because of their shitty personality, not their looks. Generally, the idea/fantasy that everyone is afraid to approach beautiful women is bullshit. There's loads of hot dudes with lots of confidence out there. Those women get approached.

>started uni at 25 after years of being a shut-in loner
>people invite me for beers and to watch the football match
>refure every time because I'm scared these younger classmatess will realise how socially awkward I am

How the hell does a guy even know if he's hot or not? Does he have to be a 6'3 ripped badass with a Cavill face to qualify?

Keep trying,

and if people are too 'weirded out' by you being socially awkward, they sound like judgemental douche-bags anyway. Lots of my friends are socially awkward, I like them because they are not normal average boring people.

The issues is a self defeating attitude. I agree, its unreasonable to believe after coming from bad circumstances that you will be normal like everyone, but you shouldn't stride for perfect and normal. Giving yourself unobtainable goals is a self defeating prophecy. The key is aiming for small and gradual steps, little victories leading to a healthy and beneficial(not idealized) state of being.

You've got one chance at living life and you're dealt an absolutely shit hand. It's not fair, but life was never about anything being fair. You have to play with what you're given and make the absolute best out of it. Wallowing and loathing is 100% your own decision.

>How the hell does a guy even know if he's hot or not?
That is a subjective question
Lots of guys I think are goofy looking, women think are hot.

I personally am manly and masculine. Not chad, but some women like it, some don't

Not the point of what I was saying. I was just pointing out that there's always guys out there who won't be scared of approaching a smoking hot chick, so it's not like hot chicks are lonely and desperate to be approached. Doesn't mean that there aren't attractive women out there who will date unattractive men as long as they have their shit together and aren't fat.

I'll never understand how some guys can feel totally comfortable approaching sober or drunk and then casually shrug it off it it's a no and not be bothered by it in the last. No clue. Enviable of this though.

1. I stopped giving a fuck about what other people thought. This is really important. I worked on my depression and I went out to social events when invited even if I didn't feel like it. Opportunites don't always come up.

2. I met lots of my friends via roommates and their friends. And I put effort into maintain those friendships. "
Side story: I learned how important this is because I was in a band with some cool guys and the lead singer was super cool awesome dude. I was socially awkward and insecure and was always worried they didn't really like me and I didn't make the best of it. Then he fucking died, and I realized I lost a good friend but also didn't make the best of it when he was alive. I will never get that back, I will never get to hang out with him again. Full of regrets.

I applied this lesson to my future friendships. I started making sure that my apartment/house was a place people want to go to and hang out, I hosted parties, I facilitated good interactions and people wanted to be there just because of that. Then I would in-deify the cool people that I liked (nice, respective people) and work on those relationships.
RIP Nick

>in-deify
identify

also to add to that, I didn't put effort into people who were parasitic, or mean, or treated others like shit. life is too short to spend time with assholes.

It's not true at all. And when it is, it's comparable to highly intelligent men being lonely. It will only ever be by choice.

Age range might be an issue, bit go outside during the morning and evening for a walk or hang out in the park. Older folk might be more frequent, but I personally prefer their company due to how nice they are. You can frequent the places where the youth hang out if you're really strapped with finding friends in your age group.

Watch out for your own body behavior; louching over or keeping your head down is a clear indication of you looking nervous. Try to keep a relaxed face and smile when you make eye contact. Small talk is good too, but catch on when a person doesn't want to reciprocate past that. Watch your tone and be amiable. Biggest no-no is talking about politics. Avoid it unless you want to risk pissing people off/ making them uncomfortable. Giving homemade treats to neighbors is a hit or miss, but when it works leads to good impressions. Hope it helps!

> by choice.
Or mental illness.

dumb trip poster

Is hitting up societies and the social events they have key? As with hosting parties, poker nights, etc. I'd plan to but there's always that sense of unease cause I assume the worst and think no one will ever want to come if cause it's me, and always nervous about hitting someone else up cause I feel guilt ridden like I'm putting them in a position where they feel as if they have to say yes/invite me over or will annoy them if it's a no. I never bother telling anyone it's my birthday and disabling any social media stuff that advertises it for similar really insecure reasons where I both don't want anyone to make a fuss over me whilst also not wanting to have people know but not make a fuss anyone therefore confirming how I'm not close with anyone at all.

Ha, body language is a big one. Hot here in the UK but I am so reticent to wear shorts and t shirts so wear slim fit jeans with a long sleeved shirt with things rolled up, walk hands in pocket, make absolutely sure to never make eye contact with anyone. Will sometimes let my eyes wander around the surroundings not out of any genuine curiosity put because it's better staring straight ahead the whole time, or simply force myself to read something on my phone my head is down, etc. I pass a cafe? Head looks opposite direction of the window rather than straight or whatever. I really don't like walking around town. Only don't mind it if I'm with someone else or it's a uni club night when I'm already partially drunk.

ur dum m8

I don't appreciate your attitude. Please be nice to me

>Is hitting up societies and the social events they have key?
They are helpful, but you need to mitigate your expectations, not all events turn out to be good or fun. I have hosted lots of parties, some epic, some total flops that nobody showed up to. You just have to learn from the experiences and not get down about it.

Hosting regular small events is also good. I host D&D for my friends because I have the best space to do it in. So I started cooking to get the ball rolling and without asking them, they started taking turns and its really fun. I personally put effort into organizing this, making it better, making sure people had a good time, then once it was up and going it sustained itself.

poker night, game night, sports events, etc can be the same thing.

Fuck off

Pres and poker nights will be a thing this year. I have a small thing with a girl that could, or could not, lead somewhere that does know about organising and hosting, so could learn a few lessons there.

About societies, I imagine it's the type. A history social will be different from a rowing or lacrosse one, for example.

That is so mean like holy shit. I did not even do anything to you mate

essentially what I am saying is that most people want things to do, but most people are too lazy or don't have the foresight to organize things well or at all.

So I often facilitate events,
camping, game night, sporting events, parties, etc. Why? Because if I wait for someone else to do it, it probably won't happen.

My ex gf is attractive but she is lonely because she is a narcissist who craves attention from others and it self obsessed to the point where she drives all her friends away and isolates herself as a way to get attention

most alpha/dominant females are indeed lonely, cause theyre too much to handle for guys, shes

No she'll have an inferiority complex until she believes she's beautiful. Then she might want to try out her new sexy powers. Instead try someone who just lost weight, they earned their confidence in the gym.