Ignore the yield curve at your peril

>Ignore the yield curve at your peril.
Well lads, it was fun.

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Explain this Sheamus

Inverted yield curve means that people dont believe in the future anymore.

Precedes an economic ouchie.

We are due for another 2008 in 10-16 months

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Every so often, you get less return on bonds purchased than you payed to purchase them.
This precipitates a crash. A law of markets written in stone, such little has it changed. The problem is, every time it happens, there's more at stake.
With the solution to 2008 essentially being "print more debt", this one may play out differently. As in worse.

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I can't imagine why

But those recessions happened and I haven't starved to death yet. Why should I care unless I had a lot of money in stocks?

>ITT everything is going to shit
Good, now tell me of the wonders we shall see

What can we do to not be royally fucked when the crash hits?

Buy previous metals, probably, but make sure its physical

What do I do with my money? Keep it in cash? In the bank? Invest in something?

Buy guns, ammo, food, water, toilet paper and tobacco leaves for bartering

They wont create inflation in the currency they will just further inflate the population with more immigrants. It has the same effect of reducing overall debt and causing massive suffering for the peasants.

Gold, crypto, bullets, nonperishable food, a way to get clean water.

>Why should I care
Because, you fucking livestock, its the banks that finance the purchasing of those stocks, bonds, etc.
And europoors are just about out of shit to steal. They're STILL paying for the banks shortfall incurred in 2008,so you're going to pay for this one :^)

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Lol, bang on really, except for one thing.
They're importing a population of welfare leeches. A population of net losses to the tax kitty WITH a certain amount of scepticism towards Jews.
>what could possibly go wrong
Personally, I can't wait.

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But I don't have any money

>going to pay for this one
Nope. Why do you think we flooded you with sand niggers?

It's their ideological inconsistencies that cause this.
>we need people to stop being racist so we can inflate the population
>we can't stop these immigrants or people will call us racists
The tensions this contradiction creates will collapse the economic and social system eventually.

The graph is US treasury bonds by maturity. When the 3 month bond dips above the 10y bond in yield bad things have happened in previous years. Basically, the left tail go up above the 10y dot = economy explodes in 12 months and stays down for about 22 months (average recession length). Everyone has seen it happen a bunch of times, and economists noticed this is an accurate indicator for bad times ahead for a bit. Basically, it is a self-fulfilling prophecy as this point.

I want that economy to explode because I'm switching to an employer with a sick match and most stocks are so overvalued that I refuse to buy right now and am hoarding my shekels in TLT, WM, cash, and consumer staples.

The economy will probably hit a recession in about 10 months, everyone will freak the fuck out and panic sell, while smart money ladder buys all the way down to the bottom. It has happened before, it will happen again. It is nothing to freak the fuck out over. Expect most indexes to lose 40%+. This is great news for people like me that want cheapies.

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it's almost crossing. here we go, lads

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I'm thankful i have very little debt and am well capitalised. Think i will buy more land on the way up and urbanites can dwell in their squalor while they eat each other alive.

Okay Cardiff.

When this happens, what should I buy? Index500…?

Then you'll ironically be wealthier than most

>nope
Lol, look back at the video. Watch the percentages. Big people were banking and selling on much higher percentage hopes than we ended up with.

You're footing the bill, livestock. And armed resistance to that will reward our arms investments immensely. Have fun!

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Gold, silver, Bitcoin if you believe in that sort of thing. Guns and bullets and canned goods if you don't

Buy Land and run Livestock.

I really wish that some day Jow Forums finally matured and realized that the root of their problems isn't "nwo kikes", it's the current ruling class who cemented their global rule after winning WW2 and are using capitalism to prevent anyone else from reaching their levels as after a certain point, it becomes impossible to become richer unless you're open to corruption and sucking a few cocks. Crashes that destabilize the system therefor aren't your enemy, they're your best tool against this cancer. The last time shit seriously hit the fan, the great depression, the US proceeded to have its golden age for 20 years ahead and no American ever felt like he was getting scammed by a CEO on his simple job that could easily afford him a house. And ironically, before that crash happened, it had its dark age that pretty much mirrored modern society - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roaring_Twenties - a period of economic prosperity but not for the average man but rather the companies, coupled with a drastic cultural decay and an idolization of celebrities over smart men and leaders. Mass consumerism, anti-traditionalism and a weird fixation on sex as if it's the only thing that matters in life. Sounds familiar?

Better stock up on longlife food eh?

I believe it's more likely you guys lose your virginity famalam
TOBACCO LEAVES LOL

Depends on if you want short-term performance and dividend income or long-term growth. historically you can see certain industries that everyone rushes to in downturns after the initial pullout. These are things like utilities, consumer staples, and niche shit like WM (because someone has to keep picking up the trash). All of these kinds of companies tend to have high dividends as well and are considered kind of "recession proof". They drop like 15-20% when the rest of the market takes an absolute shit dropping double or more of that. I'm a big fan of these kinds of stock (KO, WM, MCD, T, etc.). An easy way to hit a bunch of these are just investing in the ETF NOBL, which is a dividend aristocrat ETF.

On the other hand if you have a higher risk tolerance and want to go long as fuck (talking 5-10 years) buy all the shit that is going to get annihilated. Finance, Tech, emerging industry (pot stocks and biochem). V, MSFT, ACB/CRON/CGC, GOOG, etf. That or just buy a growth ETF and keep dumping into it all through the recession. It will be a recession for about 2 years and rough for another 5.

I would ladder buy down every 5% drop after 30% and plan for a 50% drop overall. Don't worry about the timing you will have months to buy cheapies.

Buy cheapies wit me instead bruv. Get that risk tolerance up.

>(((global elites)))

Why don't you just say jews.

Personally I will be dumping into mostly these, but my goals and risk tolerance may not be like yours:
>MCD
>WM
>MSFT
>KO
>MO
>ACB
>KMB
>MMM
>COST
>YUM

Then as far as etfs go (I hedge 50% of stock with etfs):
>VT
>NOBL
>MJ (I shit you not, these will be bought up like candy in a few years as they consolidate and then get bought by PM/MO as big tobacco enters the pot industry as it continues to get decriminalized. Right now they are insanely overvalued though.)

For REITs (basically investing in real estate without the headache:
>IRM (insane management, straight up petitioned the SEC a few years ago to changed the rules for REIT qualification and won, handles like 90% of the megacaps info)
>O

Thanks for the advice

>people dont believe in the future anymore.
did we _

Basically, learn about investing and don't be a retard like the kids on Jow Forums. Diversify, learn to value a company, dollar cost average while doubling down during recessions, and you will make it. Learn about cyclical investing, go read "a random walk down wall street" and don't buy TSLA over $55.

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based investmentbro

it doesn't work, US is taking 2 million per year (half legal half illegal) and debt/worker is going up
At this point it looks like we're just pushing against the maximum amount of debt you can load onto the workforce

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>What can we do to not be royally fucked when the crash hits?
>Buy previous metals, probably, but make sure its physical
NO!. you learn to "ride the waves" , right now don't do anything big with your money we need to wait for the next crash and when all the prices goes to the sewers then and only then we buy stocks or houses.

simple as that, the world is not going to end, the economy is not goin to end, 2008 was not the end of the world... they will NOT allow that to happen because they themself depend on the cycle, we just go with them fallowing their cycle.

I dont recomend "metals trading" if you dont have experience

my family actually made good money during the crash of 2008, we bought another house and also put some money on stocks , although I didn't know enough about stocks back then, it was kinda a "lucky move" but it teached me how the pros do it, right now the market is too high don't plan on staying for too long or at least fallow a very strict "technical analysis" strategy if you don't know what this is stay away from the stock market and just wait for the next crash to "buy low", If you already have stocks consider to get out take your profit and wait for the next low to buy again.

the total cycle can take a lot of years (5 to 10 years), this is not "day trading"!!! or "forex type trading" this is old school long run ("fundamental trading") its safer and you don't pay too much trading commissions.

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>global elites

so NWO kikes

Youre not white if a mexican has to explain. When interests rates go up banks put the money into bonds and other safer more conservative investments. People are not spending or cant spend, people have a bleek outlook for the future so interests rates have gone down. It still shit so interest rates are about to go negative. Its the last ditch effort become americas time comes. After that the Deagle prediction comes true.

Lol how hard is it for americans to get antibiotics since they never list them in their go bags? System is fucked.

Why do you defend this jewish atrocity? Is so important to you to one up that you spit on your ideologies and morals. This what wrong with you americans and why glowniggers use you. You can steer the american anyway to even cross their kin if you use the patriotic route. You guys are truely babylon.

bump because the boom is soon

When interest rates are so low, because of investor confidence, minor dips in the curve are statistical noise. We're talking about 0.1 swings around a 2.75 base rate.

Doubtful.
Recession, probably. More than likely won't be anywhere as big as 2008.

I hope for your sake youre still in high school with this level of economic understanding.

what swoops in to keep it from becoming a global catastrophy the last few times capitalism has caused this is all out of steam and cant help you now.

this or the next one and thats it, its all over then.

hold on now...
you're saying that it's "normal" to happen and people are retards by panicing and selling everything they have thus generating the problem?

Never EVER take investing advice from Jow Forums, keep doing what you normally do.

Debt is worse than ever before, housing prices are worse than ever before, and this is with MAXIMUM economic stimulation generated by consumer consumption. The entire economy is at it's wits end. There isn't any more debt to be drawn out, there isn't any more shit that people can buy. That's why the powers that be, especially those economic players, push mass immigration so hard, and by extension con "progressives" into supporting it: the more people there are in the first world the more debt slaves there are. Not only will the coming recession be worse than the last, it might even surpass Depression levels of catastrophe. And then the countries that already had it worst last time (Greece) will back Golden Dawn. We will have actual Fascist states again very soon indeed.

Good, let it all burn.

>We will have actual Fascist states again very soon indeed.
we will have both fascist and commie states, because some countries will go left when the recession hits. It depends on where the pendulum is at the moment in each individual country.
Shit, for the USA this may very well mean that it will go left, because Trump and so called 'nationalism' (civ nat cuckery) will be blamed by the media, establishment, deep state, everyone...then the election hits and you burgers will get the Bern or worse, it's really about timing.
Some countries in Europe will definitely fall right, well unless the EU takes this opportunity to suspend elections and moves for a power grab (undemocratic in nature of course, think China)....

So after the collective economic wipeout, may very well come a socialist private property wipeout on top of that. Ground zero for the anticipated NWO.... we'll see.

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Capitalism is ova.

Bubbles dont form and pop while everyone still remembers and is talking about the last bubble.
You know its about to pop when people stop talking about it and or say things like "who knows when the next one will happen."
Right now everyone thinks the next recession is right around the corner. Which is actually a health mindset and prevents bubbles.

>Shit, for the USA this may very well mean that it will go left

We will just balkanize

I guess they call the Irish white niggers for a reason

They call Americans niggers because whites are a minority in the US. Sorry to ruin your larp.

(((Investors))) are planning to crash the economy again right before the 2020 election.

It isn't normal as in healthy but normal as in typical or common. They always think they can just inflate it away and ride the boom off into the sunset. This is always the result.
We never had the correction in 2008, we just qe until we could inflate a new bubble.

Look at the op pic again, notice that the yield has been going down all around, every crash it goes down more and more.

Lolno, Soros and Buffet play precious metals like the fucking fiddle.

>because some countries will go left when the recession hits.
No, they won't. I understand that historically that is 100% the case, but the "left" and the "right" aren't what they used to be. Orthodox Marxists and other Egalitarian Socialists are not the main players on the non-mainstream left anymore. The "left" is characterized by it's attempt to fit within the western Democratic models, as is the leftover from the Demoralization process. Historically the countries that "swung left", so to speak, did so because the working class had nothing left to gain and so destroyed the whole system. At that time the working class mostly backed radical Left economic groups like Communists. The same isn't the case today. Unionized workers, blue collar workers, and the working class in general in Europe and most of the West, have their highest vote share go towards Right-wing(not Far-right wing) Nationalist parties/candidates (AfD, Sweden Democrats, Trump, etc.) that are apart of the current political model and don't want to actually change the core structure that is so rotten. When the social breakdown occurs that is accompanied by the economic breakdown, massive sections of the population will reject traditional parties/candidates and blame them (rightly so) for the to-be current predicament. Greece following the GFC shifted left and placed Socialists and Marxists in power in the country, but that doesn't mean that in an actual breakdown this will occur. Greece may have had it's economic crisis caused by the EU cartel apparatus, but when things began to fall apart the EU was there to pump massive amounts of money into the Greek economy to prevent the total wipe-out. So the people weren't at a point where they were going to accept that the whole system had to be torn down and replaced. So they shifted to a Left-wing coalition who promised to take a tough stance on the EU, who then didn't because they realized what would happen if Greece left the EU/Eurozone/etc.

In all; things have changed. The old divisions that drove the rise of far-left states (severe economic and social disenfranchisement compared to an extremely powerful and wealthy elite) don't exist in the rigid structures they used to. Now it's a fight to maintain a basic line of decency against a Globalized economic model that uses people as debt-consumer slaves. The further "left" that you go in the modern spectrum, the more support you find for mass immigration and other such processes. It is the "left" and the financial global elites that finance them that are the ones CAUSING the problem. The only people that reject this entire model are orthodox leftists (who are totally insignificant now) and the so called Far-right, who are gaining more and more power as people realize the so called "nationalist" populist mainstream right wing aren't going to do anything about the issues.

actual financial analyst and level 3 cfa candidate, ask me anything

Best options to invest 10k kind of invest and forget mentality.

>level 3 cfa candidate
What's that?

Was going to by real estate or Reit after the downturn, anything I should be doing now. Have 2k a month, and about 87k cash that could be allotted into anything producing a decent ROI, but I am an investing idiot.

Also have oil wells now, small production, so I have no qualms with risk.

tfw when you don't have your own little OPEC

Gets me everyday that I can't manipulate the price by threatening production decrease. Sad.

Can I get a little more data?

/thread
"In markets always do the opposite of general consensus."

depends, what's your time horizon? do you have other investments? VTI is a decent choice but I believe it lacks a foreign equity component for additional diversification.
one step below being Best Goyim, with all the perks
as above, time horizon considerations are important. you're missing out heavily right now by only getting a cash return on $87k and the US economy is still humming along despite the rest of the world eating shit. diversified equities are still my preferred vehicle with some fixed income allocation (~25% in BND?). never underestimate the power of being well diversified with uncorrelated investments

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Time i'm looking at 15 years so if I wind up dead early there will be something there. Have no other investments, buying the oil production I did wiped out most liquidity I had. 87k was sitting there to cover a bond fee I have to carry with the state and battery replacements. Didn't invest in anything else/have no other investments. VTI as in vanguard?

Bond fee was lowered and the rest is covered by current production so the 87 is free. Sorry to keep double commenting, working on 2 hrs of sleep.

This nigga has spent at least 1k hours studying for a kinda difficult exam in Finance and most probably has a Masters and 3-4 years of work experience.

ha

>2 million a year
Where the fuck are all these people coming from? How is that in any way sustainable?

The future is so bright, we don't need eyes to see it.

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America will mire likely Balkanize than go one way or the other. The good news is you'll get to see Commiefornians and their ilk eaten alive by their precious minorities. Just be sure to seal the borders lads.

cool

this wont affect me at all

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Am I going to be okay?

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i dont have any investments and lead a low-cost lifestyle, why would i be hurt by this?

>no cans of food
>no guns
>no medicine
>no MREs
no.
if the world economy collapses your low cost life style suddenly becomes an extremely expensive life style. or you end up eating bugs for protein like canada/ lower your standard of living.

sorry not if WHEN the world economy collapses anyone who uses currency in any manner what so ever will be effected.

its happened three times in my life so far

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VTI as in Vanguard Total Stock Market Index, yes. with a long-term time horizon like that you absolutely want equities for dem capital gainz, but use maybe a third of that total amount for bonds such as BND, Vanguard Total Bond Market Index.

you also have the option of putting
money into a Target Date Fund which adjusts allocation by itself so you don't have to care about that aspect over time

quant masters is next on the chopping block, assuming I pass in June

just in time for the election

What happened in the past is not how it's going to happen in the future. There is going to be an international crisis so bad that they will try to raise a one world government from the ashes but if you're sure of yourself God bless and good luck.

>canned food
>MREs
nigger better learn how to farm

What the fuck user :^/

Irish truely are niggers. You have any source on those demographics?

Farming only will last until the niggers run out of food and try to take your farm.

i am, have fun with the next conspiracy theory when nothing changes.

innawoods

Biblical prophecy isn't conspiracy but as i said you do you, God gave you the freedom to choose so choose.