Jow Forums Let's discuss Venezuela

Seriously, I don't know what to believe.

I'm in Belgium and the news here seem to be all about how much Juan Guaido is the savior of Venezuela, but I don't know if that's true...

Can we discuss Venezuela ?
What has happened ?
What is happening ?
What's gonna happen ?

Can people from Venezuela give us their take on it ? (if they still have the internet)

What role are countries like the US, Russia, Cuba, China, France, UK, Brazil, Chile, Argentina, are playing ?

What is your opinion ?
Who do you support ?

What is the role of the jews in all of this ?

Thanks

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i saw the video about the car running down some protesters ?
Is it a fake video or is it real ?

theres already a sticky

Cuba has literally its secret service and military in the region, a part of the Venezuelan oil is exported to Cuba for cheap money

it's real

> self proclaimed leader
> best interest of venezuela
pick one
Not that maduro is great, but we all know whats going to happen to that country after the intervention

it´s literally exported in exchange of military.

Basically the cubans get free oil and the venezuelan government get´s a bunch of soldiers (whose families are probably in cuba trapped) and use this soldiers to control the other soldiers.


>What has happened ?

Socialism was implemented by the manual and not as a socialdemocrat larp they literally collectivized everything and everything went to shit they are having scarcity problems of everything since 2011 but they have become worse and worse until now the nearly total electric grid failure has made them go to shit.

>What is happening ?

Everyone with 85 iq+ left the last 3 years now only old people , gibniggers , state employees and commies remain.
What´s happening then?Everyone wants to change but they are trapped by the system they created around them.
Now you see resistence from government agencies going rogue but not much anymore and the funniest crap is that for example when the oil company refuses to take orders from maduro it´s literally irrelevant because they have been producing shit anyway.

Literally no one produces shit anymore they all larp about working so they can´t change shit.

>What's gonna happen ?

Probably total decadence until the first plague in the modern world spawns there and makes ebola look comfy.
Things have gonne to shit to such level that they are worse than the worse african countries already.

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The people want socialism right?
They WANT more of what brought them where they are, right?

This is the only thing these low iq monkeys are capable of creating no matter where they are.

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>What role are countries like the US, Russia, Cuba, China, France, UK, Brazil, Chile, Argentina, are playing ?

US: Did not give a shit for 20 years when their own companies were being stolen and only acted then the ruskys started to dickshow planes in venezuela.

Russia: They don´t have anything to win with maduro except destabilize the petrodolar by destroying venezuela (which has the biggest oil reserves in the hemisphere).
The ruskys are literally shiting on venezuela ,their only goal is to fuck things up.

Cuba: They send soldiers to venezuela in exchange for free oils since a decade or more.
They used to send doctors but many escaped so i have no idea if that continues.

China:They gave money to the leftist in venezuela because they give loans to all their allies but maduro wasted everything things were so fucked up that one of the biggest chinese oil companies was on trial against the venezuelan government on a fucking new york court to get ships of the venezuelan government as compensation or things like that.
China simply does not give a shit but preffers the devil they know rather than other.

France: Nothing

UK: Nothing

Brasil: They did not give a fuck until refuges started storming the amazonas now they are pissed off , also the leftist there and in argentina see venezuela as a success model(i am not shitting you).
This is why bolsonaro won.

Chile: Same as brasil they are also full of venezuelan refugees.

Argentina: Same as brasil and chile but our ex lefttist government to make things worse gave stuff to venezuela which they never paid.

Cuba is deploying more soldiers, and then you have the Russians with their missile system and the Chinese too

AMA

>Who do you support ?
Guaido obviously , the commies had two fucking decades and destroyed that country.

Guaido is a cuck from the socialist international , but at least the cuck will give free elections again and people will have a chance of voting other stuff.

Overall the most possible scenario is that the ruskys back maduro to the end until the country turns full somalia and it´s oil exports go to literal 0.

That means that the exodus of venezuelans will continue and eventually a pandemic or some shit will end up killing most as you can´t have somalia tier conditions on a tropical jungle country without some disease like ebola appearing.

Venezuela is worse than fucking congo , average wage is 3 usd per month and they had more murders than the syrian civil war the last 10 years.

Not even the UN could enter to that shithole to fix things if a thing like ebola appears there.

Worse the fact that it does not have north korea borders , means that even on it´s commie cancer 100% completed there will be trade and movement of people.

Shit is so bad that they are having people going through the jungle to brasil or by boats to islands like tobago.

If a dissease appears there nothing will stop it and if maduro continues eventually things will go to shit to such a level that we had never seen since the fall of rome for a country.

Trust me it´s worse than you see even on neocon media shilling.
It´s way way fucking worse when i say they earn 3 usd per month i am not shilling it´s literally the average salary there.

They are fucking starving and escaping , in all of latin america it has become a meme the venezuelans working for food delivery apps.

The youth already left and if maduro continues the entire crap will collapse fast as fuck.

>AMA

how is it today over there ?

that is really bad

Hey you can get fake id and ssn in there. Around 80$.

Here where I live, pretty calm. But we're anxious about this whole deal. Other parts of Venezuela are without power, water, with heavy military presence.
Today May 1rst is gonna be a revolt against Maduro.

was the internet or power ever cut off? if yes how long?

it´s fucking terrible, their gdp is collapsing massively too , they are lossing 25% of their gdp per year.
When they have energy they don´t have internet , when they have internet they don´t have water.

They are living on borrowed time and they know it which is why the youth is escaping to whatever the fuck they know.
The freelancers there are panicking tough , they lived with bitcoin isolated from everything.
But without electricity they can´t work so it´s fucked up.

Yes, both were cut off on most parts of Venezuela. Caracas (where I live) is kinda privileged because is the capital city. Even so, internet provided by CANTV (which is like, 90% of it) is heavily blocked. Couldn't get into youtube, facebook, google, anything... thank god I had Intercable

>their only goal is to fuck things up
Venezuela owes Russia at least 17 Billion USD.
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17 billion usd is little money if you have to spent 20 billion more in military to get your money back.

17 billions is literally 1 year of nasa budget , not that much money.
Also they are not going to get it back with the entire economy collapsing and supporting collectivizations.

The country no longer produces shit , they are literally using cattle trucks to replace public transports because they don´t have usds to import parts to fix the busses.

Now while i said that 18 Billion is not a lot of money ,it´s not if you are a stable country , if you are a collapsing shithole like venezuela it´s one year of your exports income and you export less and less every year.

Worse they literally insulted their top business partner for 20 years until trump did something two months ago and told them to gtfo.

Their main business partner was the usa not only for oil exports but they imported fuel from texas(since the venezuelan government has employees in the us through citgo).

Now with the us not buying i am not sure how long they are going to last.
But things are going to get worse.

>The ruskys are literally shiting on venezuela ,their only goal is to fuck things up.
Im so proud, we can destroy a country for lulz. Embrace the clown world.

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>17 Billion USD is still a large amount of money for Russia, which has a smaller GDP than Canada.
>Nasa's budget isn't relevant.

>Venezuela
literally who

Yes but then again they will have to move more and more forces there to get their money back , i don´t think people understand how much commies fucked things up.

They don´t produce shit anymore and most of the machines to produce shit have never been maintained since they were expropiated.

What can the ruskys do?Take their gold? already did....
Not much left there except oil production that is collapsing , cuba does that they send soldiers and get free oil.

But rusisa does not need oil, who knows what the fuck they can do to get paid.

The collapse is partially the result of their own incompetence, partially factors outside of their control, and partially the result of the US.

Their socialism did work well at first but all the money for the gibs came from their state owned oil corp, and when oil prices tanked a few years ago, that killed their income and fucked things up majorly. The American sanctions aren't helping things any either, also I'm pretty sure CIA niggers are responsible for a lot of the power cuts, the generators all exploding around the same time is (((suspicious))) and I believe Maduro when he says it was EMP attacks

However some of the other problems are their own fucking fault, like the food and water shortages. Even other countries with less fertile lands targeted by the US don't have food and water shortages (Syria and Iran for example) and Venezuela is EXTREMELY fertile and lush. The hyperinflation is their own fault too, as hyperinflation is ONLY caused by the government printing more money en masse in a desperate attempt to pay their own bills

theres more than 3 million venezuelans all over latin america that could be helping get rid of maduro right now....

(((mason jew))) coup

USA and Brazil evangelical masons invading other countries again

it’s just (((mason jews))) keeping someone down and then kicking them when they think they can get away with it