Was the vote for Crimea to join Russia legitimate?

Was the vote for Crimea to join Russia legitimate?

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Sure, i dont see why it wouldnt be

some people think the russians rigged it

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Of course, Russia used the same precedent the west did when Yugoslavia was broken up. They even warned us at that time that the precedent that was set could some day work against us.

Ah well, live and learn. Personally I hope they take the entire Ukraine, which is obviously much more corrupt than Russia under Putin could ever be.

yeah some people also think russia rigged many things. i.e the 2016 US Election

Just like with the former Yugoslavia, it doesn’t matter if the vote was rigged or not. What matters is military might.

If it was not, then Kosovo as an independant state is not legitimate either

Who cares, Mommy's law overrules international law!

No in a nutshell since
>both options led to same conclusions
>Tartars abstained from voting so numbers had to have been fudged
More bullshit as well, but it’s been forever since I wrote about it in undergrad

crimea joining russia is not against the international law

>claims $100k is social media ads changed 2016 election
That is one bad-ass ad campaign that can overcome $1.5 Billion in campaign spending to get HRC elected.

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Yes

Weren't they banging on about how you supposedly took it by force and rigged the election so they didn't see it as valid?

huh? didnt say i would be "some people"

No, the vote was not legitimate.

Crimea is rightful Ukrainian clay.
What happened to the Polish in Volhynia will happen to the Russian larpers in East Urkaine.

Slava Ukraini!

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>Troops of country A invade a region of country B
>This region suddenly goes "wtf I love country A now"
>A public polling is held with troops still in the region and the region is now under control of country A

How the fuck do you blame USA for using this scheme because its against the will of the natives and when Russia does it is suddenly "legitimate" and "good"?

This guy gets it tho. That's how the history is written.

ukraine is not a real country

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also azov is funded by jews

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Ukraine is not a country

the whole point of ukrainian color revolution was for america to take control of the sevastopol - home of the black sea fleet... of corse they're banging on

>Picture name
Man, we have these flags all over our base, people buy them and USA flags in their rooms and take photos just to piss off DPR and LPR brainlets.
Also I remember how when a group of our guys figured out separatists were eavesdropping on their channel they deliberately started speaking English (despite little knowledge of it) just to fuck with all this "muh American mercenaries" bullshit

I'm glad that Ukraine has good allies.
All allies are welcome in fighting off the Russians.

More legitimate than any referendum/election any Western nation has held in the last eighty years.

yes it is.
Just because the Russians kept trying to rape and murder us out of existence does not mean that we do not exist.
The Russian faggots tried so hard to get rid of the Ukrainian language, but they FAILED.

Ukraine exists!
Ukrainians are a real nation and a real people.

I'm proud to have NATO and EU as my ally, you faggot Jew.
The more Russians die, the happier I am.

SLAVA UKRAINI

Maybe I should've put (((international law))). My post never meant to mean their excuses were legitimate.

>pretending all of the EU is an ally to Ukraine

hush kike shill

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>Sides with EU and NATO
>Calls someone else a jew
Cool story, bro

hows the war going

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Neither is America

Don't know, don't care.

let's never forget that black sea fleet was founded in sevastopol by russia in 1783
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the same year the usa and england signed the treaty of paris
>en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Paris_(1783)
let us also remind ourselves that america got it's constitution only in 1788

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I "Legitimately" want to give mommy a whole bunch of kisses

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why the fuck would any "vote" ever be legitimate?

It was a formality.
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Crimea belongs to the Crimean Tatars you assholes.

turn off your meme flag. Crimea has always been russian clay. It was just in Ukraine's administrative zone during the ussr. Crimea is ethnically russian who speak Russian.

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then USA belong to the native tribes too

Moral law is an invention of mankind for the disenfranchisement of the powerful in favor of the weak. Historical law subverts it at every turn.

How many hohol have you heard say America >>/x/
Or America is rightful British clay? Why does it bother people so to see independent ukraine

nah

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Yes the people living in Crimea were ethnic Russians that speak Russian. The only reason it's said to be bad is because the people controlling America didn't want it.

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Sure, if you consider the vote in Iraq in 2005 to be legitimate.

Ukraine's always been a region of Russia. Always. Even in the days of the Kievan Rus.

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True. It means borderland. The German secret service made it a state in 1916 to knick farm land. That's why the Germans want an EU army instead of NATO. Tis för lebensraum

Tis a faggot country. Gould not även stans up to a handful of retired Russian soldiers in the east.

Not the EU it does not have an army yet. Also you are only on the "right to be consulted " panel of NATO. Basically uni is a shot country and a black hole for money for anyone foolish enough to try their luck there

But only taken seriously by the German secret ret service 1916

The Crimean referendum was of the maximum democratic principles comrade! As democratic and open as Maduro’s election! It is clearly the (((globalists))) that say otherwise and causing trouble!!!

No, because it was a violation of international law.

So what? Hitler had a right to invade Danzig then.

>NATO
>EU
>Ukrainian
>meme flag
Accept your Russian passport, resistance is futile

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How about not invading territory that doesn't belong to you?

So Hitler had a right to invade Danzig then, didn't he?

Max democratic yeah. Post more Natalia polanskya pics

>all these photos of mummie
>not one with pokie nipples
Mummie's holding out on us.

Kosovo you had a genocide, you French coward.

Muh international law
And Hitler was right to reclaim Danzig

Cite which chapter of law they violated or you are guessing trolling or basically ignorant

No. Kosovo was a genocide.

Grenada?

The law of Ukraine being a sovereign country since 1994, Budapest Memorandum?

There is no such thing as a ukranian clay

I don't know about Grenada. If we illegally overthrew the government, it's wrong. That being said, why does Putin's landgrab seem fine to you then?

Then Hitler had every right to invade Danzig, right?

Oooohhh genocide.... come on they were all at it. Kristina was a shoit hole, they were all trying to kill each other

Nope. Serbs did 90% of killing. Try harder.

No, he wasn't. It was an illegal act of aggression.

Yes he was. That and the anschluss were the only two rightful claims of germany

The miracles are lies. He was in fact a liar. I never asked him to die for me. I do not drink his blood or eat his flesh. This is repulsive and Satanic to me. He never officially denounce homosexuality because he knew too much about it and there is evidence of slight narcissism. I will not eat this man's gluten free bread and I will not drink his blood symbolically. Its complete and utter fallacy to worship this and the resultant acetate is bitter Christian death which happens to many men and women who were once 'good'

I think most of the people in crimea wanted to be part of the russian federation. So from that stand point. Yup fair.

No, he signed an agreement saying he would take only Suedenland. He was a lying murderer.

Again Y E S

LoL, it was Polish and Russian clay from centuries till XX century

Right, so Hitler had a right to invade Danzig of course. And Bush had a right to remove Saddam after 9/11.

>Coming from an American
My fucking sides

No, he didn't. He broke the agreement he signed called Munich.

He was indeed a murderer. And Danzig was and is german. Same as Fiume, Trento, Trieste and Nizza for us.

Reclaiming your rightful homeland full of your ethnic people bypasses any law.

Bush invaded Iraq after 9/11.
Putin invaded Ukraine after the so-called Color Revolution in Kiev.

What's the difference?

Croations were best at killing. They learned their trade from the as in the 1940s. What about the 200k missing Serbs from the area now known as Croatia then? Puzzling the first country to recognise Croatia was germany.....

It wasn't, but stronger subdue weaker. Period.
Also Ukraine should exist just to have extra few hundreds kilos of buffer zone.
Just don't accept them in EU and NATO.

>international treaties with french and british has any value of sort
My fucking sides

Yeah, you're a threat to free societies and should be sent to a Gulag.

Puzzling how Milosevic could have simply let Croatia and Bosnia be independent...

So why did he sign it? Because he has no honor.

>Was the vote for Crimea to join Russia legitimate?
Most likely, as the population is predominantly Russian.

Not much the rest of the world can do about it and Ukraine can thank Obongo for that.
He acknowledged Kosovo, that separated from Serbia in the same manner without UN observers, and then started the mess in Ukraine giving Putin an absolutely ideal opportunity to annex.

Macaroni, props for knowing it

Not even close.

Yugoslavia was a genocide.

Hitler had to start an invasion to stop Stalin. Who ever controlled germany at that time had to invade Russia or loose. Your point is moot.

>free societies
Countries that cant defend their territory have no right to own it

Yeah pretty much. And Natalia is cute

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Nope. Hitler was the aggressor, when he demanded Czechoslovakia and demanded Poland.

Its Mrs Poklonskaya to you

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The law of beasts, not of civilized men. Now cry about how you fascists aren't given enough free speech.