My gf of two months had sex with 20+ guys, she's 31 and I'm 29. Thinking of ending it before any feeling get involved

Sex is good and I'm slightly above average.

6 girls including her, no guys. Call it a double standard or whatever you want I simply don't find "experienced" women attractive. I don't expect a virgin or anything but you have to draw the line somewhere.

Okay, so just explain your case to her, which is that you want to keep fucking but not take it further. From the way you describe your lovely girlfriend, she's probably done the whole scenario that you're about to do before

>20+ guys
jeezus
>Thinking of ending it before any feeling get involved.
smart man

don't listen to the trolls in here trying to pretend it's some normal thing, that's an extremely high body count.

You're an insecure fucking pussy dude. End it because this shit is getting worse before it gets better.

>that one buttblasted skank who keeps calling OP insecure for not liking her fellow slut

We can see the poster count you know.

>op dumps a girl because she's had sex with what you think is too many people in the past
>"boo hoo Jow Forums why am i single in my 30's all these women suck!"

good luck with that op. i'm sure you're a catch yourself.

See
I don't think op is your avering browsing Jow Forums incel.

I disagree. People have their preferences and want sexual compatibility. He hasn't insulted her or said anything incel worthy. I myself find the number too high, and I'm a woman who supports equality, and the right to choose who you date.

If you aren't an incel you should refrain from acting like one if you expect people to take you seriously. Live how you want, there's no need to come to a cesspool to stir it up.

i don't understand these threads. there's one every two days. what's there to discuss? it's his decision if he wants to break up with her for it. the rest is just a bunch of buzzwords like incel and 'cock carousel'.
yes, some people would prefer a partner with a similar number of partners as them. yes, some people would even prefer if their partner was with nobody else but them. can't people have their own standards? both men and women can have this standard, and it can be anything they want. i fail to see the issue. to some people it doesn't matter, which is also fine. Where is the problem? but OP, if you fucked her already you're being a bit of a hypocrite. just throwing that out there. you know that yourself.

It doesn't really matter, he's still dumping people over body count like a baby. Obviously it's personal preference and whatever but 20+ by 30 is pretty reasonable. It's much harder to date in your 30's which is the bigger concern here, he's wasting his time with these silly metrics when he's going to be still single by then.

>if you fucked her already you're being a bit of a hypocrite
I agree there is no point to any of these threads. I get some teen or naive early 20's guy not understanding how the real world is expecting that one and only girl that has been designated for him at her birth but for a 30 yo man to even inquire when he knows she's had sex and so has he is stupid. If you don't want to know don't fucking ask and as user suggest if you are fucking the girl and made her your gf already shut the fuck up or move on.

>My gf of two months
Liar. Shes some woman you are dating/seeing. If you were in a real relationship you would have dated awhile and resolved any issues before making it official. I think you got some pussy and now changing the criteria because of your sexual jealously. 32 sounds like you are 13.

Fuck her like the world is about to end and finish this shit
don't get emotionally involved with women.

23 and younger

You were seriously so desperate for "love" that you'd fuck someone with no sense of love. Have fun with that, you're one of the usual Jow Forums crowd now.

Forever.

it's funny how w*men always close ranks and defend their kind no matter if she's right or wrong.
>older
>90+ sexual partners
You can do better OP.

Damaged goods.

Getting extremely defensive here, why?

He's not an incel because he has a girlfriend. She is a massive whore though

He doesn't have a gf only having sex with a woman for two months

Exactly op even admits he has no real feelings for her so why is he here bitching. Hes got a fuck buddy

>20+
>31
Damn, you got lucky lmao. Basically a virgin by today's standards

Lucky?

No. Even in this day and age, a lay count of 20 is way above average and makes for a downright slut.

Where do you live, my man? Around here 20 is essentially nothing

The Netherlands. About liberal as it gets.

I've dated a fair bunch of girls around the age of 18-25 and all of them had lay counts of anywhere between 0-10. 20+ lay count is skank level regardless of where you live.

it's funny how you assume any poster you don't like is a woman for confirmation bias when half the users here are women and you don't even realize it. and getting angry over someone defending it while yoi are adamantly attacking it. you sound like such a whiny bitter bitch over something literally irrelevant to you.

stop bumping this gay thread it doesn't have any advice or discussion.

Nah dude. East Coast USA is where I am and 20 is low

Well, i guess ill have a moment of silence for those of you living over there.

Sounds impossible to me to find proper wife material if the average chick is a ragged out whore.

Okay.

>Hard for a man to date in his 30s
Sorry roastie, men don’t hit the wall till much later. OPs GF is fucked though lmao

>had sex with 20+ guys
Gross. Yeah go get a new gf dude.

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>it's funny how you assume any poster you don't like is a w*man for confirmation bias when half the users here are w*men and you don't even realize it.
Except that's not it at all. I am aware how many w*men post on this board, or at least how many posts are made by w*men relative to men, because w*men are very easy to spot by their writing style and underlying thought process. For example, you are a w*man.

Because lots of Jow Forums posters are sexually frustrated perverts who get offended at the thought that there are people out there who don't want life to be one giant orgy.

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this. jesus fuck you expect women to like, never have sex? 20 isn't even a lot. i'm at around 40 from 10 years of sexual activity... 4 a year, one every three months. 4 guys a year is not a lot--if i were actually a slut i could do that in one week. i have no kids and no diseases, what's the problem with it?
also this. you don't get many chances to snag a woman. opportunity is knocking and you're slamming the door in its face. op and other men make a kneejerk reaction to dump a woman based on one single attribute, unable to compromise anything... they need to recognize the consequences they will face. guys like op come here and whine about "no good women" and "only found sluts, boo hoo, now i'm single at 35, I DESERVE a 10/10 18 year old virgin from a rich family who approaches ME and falls in love with ME while i lurk Jow Forums all day, boo hoo hoo."

public service announcement: if someone is actually willing to have you, that's a rare and precious gift. you face the abyss behind you. think long and hard.
t. someone reasonable who is willing to compromise 2 or 3 of my desired qualifications in a mate because i realize disney movies are fiction. current guy i'm dating is less than six feet! and his cock isn't even 8 inches!

>18-25
>lay counts of 0-10
>woman aged 31
>lay count of 20
you don't say? it's almost like...people do things...through the years...as they live...or somehting.
but no, no, women are the emotional gender and men are soooooo great at logic amiright. i'll let you figure this one out for yourself.

What’s it like being an emcel?

Also what is up with woman thinking that guys who don’t like absurd body counts want virgins? OP even said that’s not what he’s looking for.

>20 isn't a lot
>i'm around 40
gee, I wonder why you think this

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Sure blindman.. Late 20 something guys are fat and balding already. Now thats a wall

>Appealing to a sense of desperation you hope to instill by insisting over and over again that what any random girl who's slept around is offering is some kind of miraculous rarity that a man may never have a chance at again.
It's hard to even characterize you as substantively disagreeing at all. You're not only admitting, but self-righteously *insisting* that a man has to feel a mix of desperation and diminished self-worth to settle for loving a skank.

Loose women don't even hide the fact that their whole strategy revolves around beating down a potential partner until they feel weak and pathetic enough to stick around and "accept" her without any scrutiny. All the dressings of "entitled" this and "incel" that are nothing more than the most obvious kind of projection.

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If a guy asks how many people I have had sex with I do not go out with him again. Huge red flag and problem avoided.

Its none of his business. A healthy adult, male or female is sexually active. If you aren't thats on you but its also none of my business.

You should, comeback when the number is even and you're not such a pussy.

Mathematically it sounds like it makes sense. What i'm talking about, is the very fact that this woman didn't settle down in a stable relationship until she got to 31 and racked up 20 sexual partners in the mean time, already screams ''RED FLAG'' to me.

Quality women don't ride the cock carousel until they hit 31 y/o. Quality women find a quality man around the age 18-25 and marry him. Usually it means they have no more than like 0-10 bed partners before they settle down. Take into account i'm being VERY generous by saying 0-10 because 10 is already very iffy for me.

You cucks can whine about how judging women on their lay count is shallow or incel-talk, but there are even statistics that show a correlation between lay count and divorce rate. Women with high lay counts make for shitty wife material. Just accept it.

Do it OP. Girls with a number of sexual partners that high are no good. Essentially you’re gambling with potential STI’s, a potential cheater, and also a high likelihood of her leaving. There’s a reason she didn’t settle 20+ times, and it wasn’t a problem with the twenty men she fucked with, the problem was her.

Quality men don't remain dateless into their 20's. Not only is that a red flag but a warning shot.

It's tough when you know many of those other guys were better in bed and had a bigger dicks than you, huh?

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As a man with a baby’s arm with a cock and conservative values, I’d like you to know you’re wrong. I’ve fucked 2 women, both of whom were in the context of long term relationships with the intent to marry. I’ve had many offers and solicitations from girls and I’m still attractive in my late 20’s.

You’re wrong. Not wanting to dare a whore isn’t a position of insecurity, it’s a position of self-respect. If we are to pick the woman to be our wife and mother to our children, why pick a vapid whore who gave herself recklessly to 10+ men, showing no signs of commitment or effort to see an entire relationship through? It’s shit wife material and you know it.

Nah, I know you're insecure about measuring up.

Sounds to me you are a typical man that fucks women, promises to marry them, but will not commit.

Bold of you to assume. Girl #2 in my life ive been with for almost 6 years and will be marrying her in a year. And i’m not just shaming women, hedonists in general are dogs. You can be desirable, socially adjusted and also not exploit your desires and lead a balanced conservative life.

So it is taking you 7 years to put a ring on her finger? I feel bad for her, believing you'll actually go through with it. You'll find some reason to push the date out again and again.

The reason for the wait was mutual; money. We intend to only marry once we can afford appropriate living standards for both of us and future children.

You good? Or would you keep assuming that everyone is a wretched parasitical hedonist?

this.
>date 18 year olds
>they're cocky, arrogant little shits
>date young-mid 20s
>they're absorbed in the pussy carousel, willing to sacrifice everything just to attempt to get laid a few times in a decade
>would miss their own grandmother's funeral if a girl might give him a blowjob, a manslut with reduced means of slutting who devours everything that will grace him with a fuck session
>will waste years of his life to fuck two women and declare himself a conquerer
>blows off commitment, "not interested in anything serious"
>date late 20s/early 30s men
>they're incredibly desperate and start talking about kids on the first date, try to oopsies me
>get clingy and go head over heels
>the mid/late 30s and up guys on tinder have the JUSTed look, realize the best they can get now is being a sugardaddy to some golddigger, try to talk about their house and car to lure women in
>they'd probably marry a 4/10 fatty at that point, which most do indeed have to settle for

lol

>Every man who doesn't want a woman with a high bodycount is a dateless virgin
>Every man who doesn't want a woman with a hig bodycount wants a pure virgin
Conveniently ignoring the fact that most people in here are completely fine with woman having a few partners, conveniently ignoring the OP. Hmmm.

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How little self-awareness do you have? All your arguments are predicated on baseless assumptions. You look like a complete dipshit.

>public service announcement: if someone is actually willing to have you, that's a rare and precious gift. you face the abyss behind you.
But that's the position that aging women who've slept around are in, not men.

Men get more attractive to women as they mature and establish themselves socially and financially. Women don't even tend to care too much about body-count; they just file it under "experience" and perceive other women wanting him as "proof" that he has status/value anyway. And most women prefer if he's at least a little bit older than them anyway, too. His fertility doesn't become a concern until much later. His dating pool just grows and grows, and so does his status in it.

None if this is true for women, at all. Men don't really care how much money or status a woman has at work. Men aren't really interested in having other men "confirm" that their partner is desirable - they just judge for themselves. It's rare for them to go for a woman who's more than a year or two older than them - and it's rare for a woman to want to be any older than him than that anyway. Fertility issues crop up as early as her early 30's. She has less hoops to jump through to find a mate, but she has to do it quick - her dating pool does *nothing* but shrink and shrink.

It's not fair. Cry about it. Life isn't fair. Play your hand or die alone.

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Get over yourself. If two months turn into 3 then 5 then 10... it doesn't matter. She is with you. Don't poison the relationship that could be the next 25 years of your life because you think it cucks you somehow.

That's assuming that men stay physically attractive and gain a lot of wealth.
Which isn't the case for many men in their 30s.

How many times have you fools debated numbers of sexual partners? THOUSANDS of times and daily.

I'm not even talking about virginity or lack thereof but some guy that has never dated a woman, something is definitely wrong with him if hes not gay. I can't begin to comprehend the baggage a guy like that brings.

Is "date me or else there's something wrong with you for not being impressed by all the huge cocks I've taken" your idea of being seductive?

Good luck with that.

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But who the fuck is talking about guys who have never dated? Nobody in this thread is, except for maybe one or two offhand posts, because that isn't what the OP is about.

>she's 31
get yourself a 20 year old like any other self respecting man

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Sure, 100%. But the same assumption applies to Women too - I let "this person takes care of themselves" be an underlying assumption, and outlined the best-case scenario for *both*.

You're using her and she's foolish enough to let you. She'll never get all that time back since you haven't the courage to truly commit to her.

You've taken almost 3/4 of a decade. RED FLAG three years ago.

Based schizoid dipshit. I'm not that guy.

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She has wasted his time you mean. The dumb skank will forget about him the same way she forgot about all her other numerous partners.

All you start dumping on women and talking about some imaginary wall women hit and then you get to reject them and/or they are having sex and you stomp and shout they can never be faithful because of it. All I'm saying is some of you guys have some real issues and no one should take a risk on you EVER.

I was waiting for that one. He fucks two girls and drags one along for 6 years and hasn't married either and its their fault.

Simple decision right now. You've answered yourself a few times already. Break up asap simply 20 is TOO MUCH for you to comprehend. Once was a gangbang with 8 guys. So 12 really. Throw a wrench in like that. She did some softcore porn that sold 530 VHS copies in all back in the late 90s. 7000 guys shooting a load all over while locking eyes on her airplane strip trimmed bush and the clit ring. Oh she took the ring out after she quit 9 months ago.

See? it can get worse. So just put up with something you can't change or judge her for.
Now explore sex with her and together you find out how to give each other the best orgasms you both ever had.

Or if you acknolodge that you are lousy in bed and you will never surpass any memories of of sex for her with some of the past.

Seriously, who the fuck are you talking to? Sounds like you're the one with baggage.

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>imaginary wall
It's really cruel to goad clueless young girls into acting like they've got nothing but time on their hands, user. Stop.

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You act like only women age and one day you'll still be the today you and a woman grey headed.

You'll be wearing much bigger pants, slack jowls and thinning shiny dome. No prize not even close.

Don't forget the balding calves that needs suspenders to keep their sock up while they wear flipdlops

Men and women are different.

yeah and their crack shows when they bend over and they lost any coordination to do anything but walk if they ever had any.

Yeah, the man gets to be the boss and tell the woman what to do and what to say and what to eat and how to dress or he pushes her in the path of a bus.

Total bullshit. If men want to make demands the least they can do is man up and hold up their end. THey won't

Obviously. The Reaper is coming for us all. But "the wall" isn't the fantasy idea that men don't age - it's just shorthand for describing the reality that single women have concerns start cropping up at 30 that men don't have to worry about until at least 40. Men get an entire extra decade to "settle down" if they need more time to get it together, and their perceived value as a potential partner *as women themselves judge it* keeps going up for much longer, too. Please see for further detail.

I really can't stress how much you're not doing young girls any favors by pretending none of this is true and they shouldn't think about it.

Boy they sure are. When asked what would you do if you could have a woman's body for a day.
Some say they wouldn't leave the house while checking out their new tits.
I don't want a minute in a swap. Just no. I live with too many females that I know the issues those bodies are challenged with.

You know what really funny looking. Seeing a 30 you man that dresses like a skater and expects anyone to take them serious.

No, you don't understand. Women can fuck whoever they want all their lives, and men can reject them.

Fair is fair.

She's a whore. Drop her like a bad habit

You should go for it. Probably shouldn't have started the relationship in the first place.

Good on you for having standards.

Heres a dose of reality for you guys. Most of these women you think will hit a wall will be your boss or mayor, governor, senator or president in 10 years and more than able to live without you. You'll see who has the last good laugh.

Men get to want what Nature makes them want in a partner. Your shrieking sense that you're somehow entitled to have men take you seriously as a long-term partner now matter how you live your life isn't going to do you any good.

Sure men can, they have free will but what they cannot do is pretend to make the rules anymore and be taken seriously.

You're living in a fantasy world believing people care what you think or that it changes anything.

You stomp and scream and the rest of the world ignores your little boy tantrum.

>You stomp and scream and the rest of the world ignores your little boy tantrum.
Projection.

You're upset that a random user is pointing out male nature. Men aren't gonna change because you yell loud enough.

See you still believe women must want a long term male partner that makes all the rules to live by to be fulfilled. You are wrong. So many of you guys don't even meet the minimum requirements.

How can I take serious a 25 yo male that still lives with his parents and plays video games all day.

good idea:)

>Men aren't gonna change
You're right and everybody know it so the best is to ignore and step over them.

>How can I take serious a 25 yo male that still lives with his parents and plays video games all day.
See? Sexual selection goes both ways.