Why is it so hard to find a boyfriend nowadays? All the guys I know are so shy and risk-averse pretty much any flirting goes over their heads.
Why is it so hard to find a boyfriend nowadays...
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I think our generation is very socially stunned, especially younger guys.
For every guy who has a girlfriend there's a girl who has a boyfriend. It's equally as hard.
It's 2019, sweetie. Why don't you try being upfront with guys for once?
I've been upfront with guys but I'm tall, ugly and awkward so it's just embarrassing
I thought some girls were flirting with me but turns out they had bfs so I don't know.
But they do it anyway, to see if they are still attractive to others or to prepare ground with another guy if she breaks up with bf
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>Why is it so hard to find a boyfriend nowadays? All the guys I know are so shy and risk-averse pretty much any flirting goes over their heads.
thank other women of the last 15 years especially. do you understand that the nature of the risk they're adverse to is no longer limited to just rejection?
>I've been upfront with guys but I'm tall, ugly and awkward so it's just embarrassing
sucks... But here's the equity everyone seemed to demand. Time for you to share equally in risk of rejection by going above whatever you've understood to be an approach.
If this doesn't sound appealing to you, then you need to find a place with guys who are not affected by this modern conundrum and try your luck there.
What do you have to offer that others don't? Why would anyone want to be your boyfriend?
>All the guys I know are so shy and risk-averse pretty much any flirting goes over their heads.
Answered your own question. More and more men today are total cowards. Absolutely terrified of anything challenging (not just talking to girls, it's just the one that they complain about the most) or new, and their morale will shatter at the first sign of any difficulty. Any time there is a thought of doubt in their minds, instead of doing the manly thing and saying "fuck that, I'm going for it. gotta do SOMETHING if I'm going to get what I want", they hesitate.
A great example of this is the old Jow Forums post about some robot trying to cook a frozen pizza. Instructions say to place pizza on middle rack, but his oven only has two racks so he gives up. Imagine approaching your entire life on varying scales of THAT, and the "30% of males no sex in the last year" statistic becomes really understandable.
What if I cant find anything to want at all
Your flirting probably isnt as obvious as you think. Or it looks a lot like the way men pick on other men, so they think you're just joking.
I got a lot of flirting in high school that I did not see as flirting at the time.
Like girls in my ap English class gave me a pet name. And another girl asked me if I wanted to help walk her cat around the school on a Saturday. This all sounded like dumb shit my buds would do.
The purpose of flirting is to create sexual tension. Ask yourself if there is anything sexual about the way you flirt. There is a good chance you are scared of your sexual side and are being risk adverse in how you flirt. If you are doing that, the guys think you're just being funny.
Like really, why would anyone see something unromantic or non sexual as flirty?
real questions.
OP ask yourself questions like that.
Especially
>What do I have to offer in a relationship?
Don't answer it here. Just think about it on your own and be very honest with yourself
To add to the confusion, some women use flirting to diffuse interactions with everyone. They flirt with everything. They probably dont even know they do it. It's just something their DNA came up with to deal with life.
(I wouldn't envy them. It's easy mode now but their ancestors probably got raped way way more than average because they constantly put out that flirty vibe.)
>tfw i cant follow basic instructions on baking biscuits without being guides through it by someone else
>still dont trust myself to light a gas stove
>still cant drive
>no job
>cant even wash dishes properly
Being a man is hard because everyone just assumes you can just naturally pick things up
I'm a nice girl and I like to make people happy?
So are most girls. Anything else?
Consider looking for professional help.
>woman thinks she is flirting
Men are (on average) social retards. Literally. What you think is flirting they dont even register as existing.
How many boys have you invited for pizza and chill?
Because nowadays women are a legal, financial, and health risk
Also they offer nothing and are a void
Maybe because men are scared of me too and women have unrealistic standards these days?
What more do I need? It's a relationship, not a job application.
A lot of men think it is one. That's why you have so many guys asking why they can't get a gf when they're tall, work out, wealthly, ect.
Also
>What you think is flirting they dont even register as existing.
One persons 'flirting' is anothers basic smalltalk. Make this mistake enough and after a while you just start to ignore it.
You need to give a reason why a guy would be interested in having a relationship with you. Plenty of girls are nice and like to make their man happy. If that's all you have to offer then why should any man be interested in you instead of all the other girls who provide that and much more?
What physical characteristics exclude a man from your pool of potential suitors?
Because there isn't just one man out there that I'm competing with all women in the world for? There are plenty of men out there, but most of them prefer videogames to dating it seems.
As long as he's not disfigured or 5 foot tall I'll give him a chance.
It's a bad social culture for men right now. They're always the bad guy, the loser, the abuser, etc.
They're getting pulled apart in courtrooms by people who barely deserve the air they breathe. They're getting socially stripped down over baseless allegations. Being a man sucks ass right now.
And the problem is, women perpetrate it.
If you're a fag, though, double whammy because LGBTBBQs are reallllly doubling down on the 'fuck up the average male' proceedings.
>but most of them prefer videogames to dating it seems.
Guilty
I am 5'3", will that three inches save my life here?
You don't carry a tape measure around with you, what portion of men your age would you say are tall enough to meet your standards? Would you date an Indian man? Would you date a balding man?
>most of them prefer video games to dating
That's right bitch my copy of FFIX brings more excitement than women
Obligatory pic related.
As a guy I don't think I've ever been flirted with.
My friends tell me otherwise, so it appears I'm simply unable to pick the signals because you girls tend to be tremendously subtle.
Subtlety is fine, but, instead of giving up if it doesn't work, raise the volume.
It's a cycle, when everyone is honest lying will get you ahead, and when everyone is a liar being honest will make you valued. Men are so timid because men were overly confident, because men were so timid. The good news is that is not everyone is at the same point in the cycle. I recommend dating older or younger men for a bit. The other guys will come into their own in 2-5 years.
This is not the reality i live in.
I love tall girls, but they don't like being taller than me. Ugly do you mean you have bad teeth? A big nose? Wild hair?
Get braces, glasses, or a flat iron.
True. I'm pretty sure this is a big factor in Japan's declining birthrate. Boys don't know how to, or just aren't willing to talk to girls anymore.
But to be fair with all the gender equality shit in society these days it's no longer entirely the boy's job to make the first move. If you like a guy and he's not taking action then you take action.
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Because literally every woman in my age group is flirting all the time with everyone and none of them actually mean anything by it. If they actually want something they are direct.
Videogames are way better than dating because in the modern day 99% of dating is just not matching on tinder and the other 1% is being ghosted, you literally have a better chance of killing everyone who drops school on evangel with your bare hands than getting a date lol sorry if that went over your head but it's a pubg reference
Nah son everyone needs to be taught to do everything. The best way to learn is to go get a job. Couldn't cook for shit till I worked in a restaurant.
You have the link on the picture. Least you can do is give credit where credit is due.
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please go on a date with me, I am taller than that and not disfigured.
if you want a BF there is a cost. 4 foot pics, 4 tit pics, 4 butthole pics, 2 hair pics, 1 eyebrow pic per eyebrow. BF will be delivered by sunset by airdrop
Oh noh sweetie I used to think like you, I thought being a good person was enough. You need to get a life. Do you have transportation for dates? Money for dates? A private place to fuck?
Young men find it hard to make money because they are unskilled and untrusted.
Get a boyfriend online then.
Most guys are much less shy and risk averse on the internet.
That's because they have a screen between her and them that gives them a sense of security. Anybody she meets online is going to be a lot less cool when you meet them in person
TLDR youre a faggot keep your teenage moping somewhere else pls. Videogames are absolutely useless and do nothing other than waste time, in the very least dating however abysmal provides sunlight and experience in social interaction. You are a mommy's boy faggot with no career prospects or life experience, lets be honest
>Do you have transportation for dates? Money for dates? A private place to fuck?
I have all of those, yes.
What's the matter faggot? Did someone call you a nigger in COD?
Do you a personality? "Nice" and "making people happy" are pretty basic descriptions of a decent human being. It sounds like your trying to appeal to everyone and the problem with that is you fail to hook anyone. Everybody has a niche. Figure out what kind of girl you want to present yourself as and aim for guys who are into that.
Well, yeah, duh.
But OP didn't say she wanted a boyfriend that was cool and confident in person.
She just wanted a boyfriend.
Meeting someone online is an easy way to do that. And hey, there probably are a lot of guys online that are just as cool in person as they are online, you'd just have to separate their messages from the hundreds of other messages you'd get from asking for a boyfriend online.
Sorting the few decent, charming guys from the hundreds of freaks sounds like far more work than her being more assertive with guys she knows IRL.
This is surprisingly wholesome. "Men aren't evil monsters" is an opinion that isn't exactly in vogue these days.
>Sorting the few decent, charming guys from the hundreds of freaks
K-12 schools work really hard these days to put boys down for being boys, and discourage the masculine assertiveness/aggressiveness/confidence that girls like you are counting on for the dolt to make a move.
You're mostly just stuck waiting to see which ones do the best job of growing out of it the farther they get from high-school age. And getting better at dropping hints.
lol she failed to answer these
moral of the story: women only want Chad and they aren't even aware of it
You say it like there's something wrong with that. If I saw a woman choose to date a bald manlet I would never trust her judgement again.
Sure. I'm 5'4'', you're roughly my height. If you don't mind, then I don't either.
Obviously I expect a modicum of attractiveness. A fat balding middle aged Indian man would be out of the question, but none of those are dealbreakers unless he wears them badly.
I'm just a normal going girl. I like anime, series, playing tennis. Just a normal regular person.
if judgement was present they would be honest about it
it's just vagina tingles and it's worrying that some men here seem to think they are speaking to a mentally full-formed human being
I can feel u on this. Not a grill but hearing you say this makes sense to a certain extent. I'm sure a ton of anons are gonna laugh and be asspained that a femanon is saying that, when most guys feel this way. Truth is its not a guy/girl thing, it's just people generally suck. With what you said specifically though, I can give my perspective because it resonates with me. Literally last night I wrote in my journal about something similar.
For me it's a two part thing. The first is str8 autism like I have no clue when a girl is interested or being flirty just coz she wants to, or isn't being flirty at all. Totally does go over my head for the most part. From my experience girls need to be direct with me or make it really obvious with physical clues. Not sure why but there it is.
The other part is that I'm not interested... Kinda. On one hand I feel like it'd be nice to have a gf, but on the other hand I just don't see it happening. My standards are too high and I think the girl I want exists but is one in a million, so it's easy for me to just decide that a specific girl as my gf won't work out.
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I'm a confident guy, my female friends actually look to me for advice and compliment me on being confident. I'm good looking, probably like a 7-8. I'm funny and I'm smart. I have fulfilling hobbies and work. Sounds like I'm full of myself but whatever think what u will, these are facts and even if u don't believe it then whatever it's the internet lol suspend your disbelief If u must.
My point is that I'm not one of those guys making excuses because I'm scared or shy. I'm pretty direct with how I feel and what I want. I've had plenty of girls, not a Chad but I've done well in that regard. I've also rejected girls and created distance when I felt myself getting too close.
I've met enough people and been through enough to know what I want. And the fact of the matter is that I'm already happy so settling for less or just getting poosy never sounds like a worthwhile option. When I think about it too deeply I can get sad and feel lonely, sure. But at the end of the day I'd rather have females in my life as friends, and if by chance I meet someone who I think would be a good gf for me, I'd hope I can make it happen.
I want a gf. She just has to be a certain kind of person.
>woman
No woman is going to read this you faggot
go watch FaceandLMS
>once again references video games, it is an integral part of his identity
you're clueless
>For every guy who has a girlfriend there's a girl who has a boyfriend.
>It's equally as hard.
Looking at the number of thirsty guys in this thread alone will tell you that's bullshit.
Well then it's time to go through the ringer. Start dating anybody and everyone. You will speed up the process of finding your champ among the chumps.
Nah son you need to read better. Every gorls biyfrend has a biys gorlfriend capiche.
>equal numbers of people in committed relationships mean equal effort put into getting said relationships
That's why I said the first statement was retarded. The dudes ITT are doing what men do--chasing. That's an overwhelmingly male thing.
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that, mind you. Delusions of 'equality' between inherently different beings are only harmful, and that applies to your post as well. But it's not "equally difficult" for the genders. They don't even have the same set of tasks and expectations, so how can you possibly compare the two?
I dont mind the girl being taller than me. It is all about not minding it, there are plenty of women around that wont date shorter men, and men who wont date taller women.
It is always about an intellectual and romantic connection that should be more important imo, for me at least. Also you obviously shouldn't be repulsed by the person since physical things are a part of any romantic relationship.
About flirting in friend circles, i suggest you whisper to your friends about and they can make the guy understand. This is different for online interactions obviously, you might have to be obviously blunt.
> 4 foot pics
You absolute degenerate
>The purpose of flirting is to create sexual tension
Degenerate nonsense that will only serve to attract manwhores.
>transportation
Not necessary unless you live in a corn field. There are taxis, apps, and public transportation--not to mention that if you meet someone in person, you by definition are able to interact.
>money
Men can pay for dates. It is only an issue if you have a habit of burning though your own or, worse, other people's money.
>fucking out of wedlock
Whoring yourself out helps no one, and it certainly doesn't get men to commit.
I would say that footfags should be gassed, but they're probably brap fetishists that would enjoy it.
>Obligatory pic related.
No. no. no.... and hell no.
That is terrible advice to give a woman. The only reason guys like you share that bad advice is because you can't attract women easily; you have internalized the scaricity mentality and you link your lack of sexual success in part to women not throwing themselves at your loser ass.
Then I come along, and tell you guys "No, girls should never ask a guy out. The guy will NEVER respect you from that day on, on an instinctual level, because if he can get all of you for free, then he'll wonder what more he can get if he actually tries"
Which is good advice because it's true and helps the girl. There is a reason, a good reason, after all that girls don't ask men out.
Your reason harms the girl, but could possibly help you (overcome your sexual failure), because you wish all girls would be like that picture.
NO. You are selfish. Your advice sucks. Every single one of you. It hurts the girl and you are denying her experience as a woman.
When I call people out for bad advice, I usually don't get quoted. But I call you losers out for this one, and you guys reply like god damn piranhas. I WONDER... What has you so motivated to defend this terrible advice? Why would you guys need to attack me for telling a girl good advice? Why are you so FERAL in seeing women throw themselves at men, even to their own social peril?
hmm. I wonder.
Kindly die in a hole. I'm so fed up of idiots like you.
>tripfag
Opinion discarded
Girl, you have two alternatives:
1. Work on yourself and look better.
2. Cry about men being incels for not fucking you.
I didn't grow up taking risks. I was partially sheltered but more so never pushed, although not provided with everything. I mostly learned to live with the little I had. Nowadays I still take the easy road unless it's something I really want. There is very little I *really* want so most of the time I'm just coasting by and finding joy where I can.
I do have some long term goals (such as becoming an architect or author) but these are things I am working on already.
I'd like kids but I don't want to put the effort into dealing with women. That leaves me basically three options: 1) surrogate 2) getting "lucky" (like my dad after he broke with my mom) and having a whore marry him without any effort on his part or 3) dying childless.
I've pretty much internalized the third option so anything beyond that will really be a bonus but not a requirement for happiness
Yeah I felt that too. She is a great woman and good intention for sure. The only thing I disliked was it felt like a dating guide to date boys, not men. Men don't have even half the problems she listed.
>FFIX
Kino
Chad has like 10 girls on rotation dude.
> I'm tall, ugly and awkward
Your like the girl version of me.
Let's make pro hockey players, if you get my drift, that is.
You replied to a male
Fuck off normie
That's a cope.
That's also a cope. On some level it has plausibility, but not when compared to the reality on the ground. That's why that excuse doesn't make sense to normal guys, the 70% who have gotten laid in the past year.
>le cope
Sorry but metoo is a thing and I'm not taking the risk you dumbfuck
I cant work a job. I struggle a lot with disassociation. I was being shown around a kitchen as a potential hire and couldnt even register anything after 10 minutes. Especially in that lighting.