I had my vaccines two months ago and I remember my arm inflated twice its size. It's the usually MMR vaccine.
I'm wondering if Jow Forums approves it or not? The media news outlet and everybody accepts vaccination yet people I have talked to said that they have diagnosed with fever, swelling, and muscle pain right after taking the shot.
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First world problems/outright bullshit
>Vaccines don't work
Usually just the flu one. I don't take it. But then again I don't think I've ever had the flu. If an outbreak happened, I'd get it
>Vaccines cause autism
Undiagnosed, but I was autistic-ish until my 20s. My parents just didn't casually talk with me a lot. I feel like 90% of issues would be solved by that. Anything in life is a skill. Some people are born socially intelligent. Some people just have to work at it
>Vaccines are unnecessary
Because people get vaccinated. This is a circular argument
I can't think of any others. I'm curious as well as to how we're so pampered and bored that we're rejecting cures for things
>Jow Forums approving getting your immune system from Mr.Goldblatt Shekelstein ((("free of charge")))
Watch parental testimonials about vaccines on youtube. Most have before/after vids. Pre vax kids saying mom dad and playing with toys. Post vax kids mumbling like a retard and looks at the floor. A one week difference. Look at anti vax facebook groups. Countless stories about sids 24h after vax. Or kids becoming retarded/autistic.
There is nothing wrong about vaccine if you are not a complet retard.
Hating multiculturalism is one thing.
But this is just stupid.
Vaccines are useful, there are a couple of American vaccines that were tainted though which has caused this massive clusterfuck. There's even a fund which pays out for "NOT-COMPLICATIONS" when some vaccinated child gets ill after or dies. It has definitely helped to weed out dangerous diseases, but blindly vaccinating your kids or yourself because of some big-pharma idea is probably a bad idea.
Vaccines are probably one of the top five medical developments in human history. They don’t cause autism, and even if they did, lots of people on the autism spectrum do fine.
It’s depressing to think that humanity is so dumb that it can be convinced otherwise by a moronic actress and a bad paper.
Anecdotal evidence and selection bias. You have to be smarter than that, user.
Probably was roids
Why do so many anons blindly support vaccines? Cia niggers hopefully. Fellows goys, dont trust the people that are trying to exterminate you, unless its vaccines the elite shills for 24/7 but never give to their own kids.
Hundreds of doctors testifying that vaccines aren't safe in these documentaries....
Vaccination - The Silent Epidemic
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The Greater Good
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Shots In The Dark
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Vaccination The Hidden Truth
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Vaccine Nation
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Vaccination - The Truth About Vaccines
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More documentaries...
Lethal Injection
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Deadly Immunity
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Autism - Made in the USA
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Beyond Treason
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Trace Amounts
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Why We Don't Vaccinate
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>I'd get it
chump
>They don’t cause autism,
we just want transparency in that industry, why does the court that handles vaccine cases operate under gag order?
Mandatory vaccinations would be a potential vector of biological warfare on a targeted subpopulation, but not until such a targeted biological weapon existed in the first place. There's no evidence of such (yet), and the vaccine hysteria is obviously a pure FUD campaign.
>not until such a targeted biological weapon existed in the first place.
we developed AIDS with South African government but it didn't work as intended, North Korea had one that targets white people but we took it away from them
Why don't these doctors publish their finding in medical journals?
The answer is because they have no evidence.
/case closed
>inb4thejewswontletthem
No vaccines unless against super serious stuff like rabies and tetanus
Alex Jones is that you? /b/ is that way -->
>be healthy
>be lucky enough to have only healthy people around you
>don't realize the severity of the danger you're putting yourself, your children and other people (including the chronically ill and elderly people)
>play Russian roulette with at least dozens of peoples' lives because some soccer moms told you so
The parents who don't get their children vaccinated should be shot right in their living rooms.
Measles for an example is highly contagious but it's not that bad statistically for YOU if you're YOUNG and HEALTHY. However if you're OLD or IMMUNOCOMPROMISED, it's potentially fucking fatal, and even if it's not, it can make your life a living hell for the rest of your life by fucking up your central nervous system. Also if you let it spread it'll kill or severely damage 3 kids out of 100 or more.
This
>why does the court that handles vaccine cases operate under gag order?
the science is settled, user. vaccines are SAFE
>Why don't these doctors publish their finding in medical journals?
there are plenty of those, to any honest researcher, of course
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and there is so much more...
>higher aluminum values in autism patients
>aluminum being linked to all sorts of medical conditions
>aluminum in vaccines for some reason
>theyre safe! the science is settled!
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how are people so braindead to trust the medical industry?
>medical (((((journals)))))
So yes, the Jews wont let them
This shouldn't be a thing. This shouldn't be an argument for contention. Vaccines for deadly diseases work and should be used on everyone so that they don't die a pointless death from something that's entirely preventable. Thing is, there are many vaccine manufacturers, and some are likely using questionable ingredients. Simply reform the system to promote the highest levels of transparency possible and hefty fines for violations. Of course, rejections do happen and other unexpected scenarios and side effects, but those are in the 1% range, if not lower, thus aren't really relevant. As long as the vaccines aren't deliberately tampered with to test something or do something that's not intended, there shouldn't be anything to worry about. Enough said.
Death from vaccine is also totally preventable
>Vaccines for deadly diseases work and should be used on everyone so that they don't die a pointless death from something that's entirely preventable
even though the vast majority of diesase theyre really trying to hype up (like measles) are literally harmless... its mainly the adjuvants/preservatives that are what is wrong with vaccines. which you must ask yourself why would they put some of that shit in the first place.. then you add shit like VAERS and the fact that vaccine companies cant be held responsible in a court of law? would someone do that for a product that was "completely safe"?
>the vast majority of diesase theyre really trying to hype up (like measles) are literally harmless
>literally harmless
see
Approve. A reaction of swelling, tenderness even fever is normal. No worries. Vaccines are imperative.
In the US chickenpox killed about 100 people per year before the vaccine came out. Measles about 350 per year. Mostly adults. Now many studies show that getting chickenpox or measles as a child gives you a reduced risk of cancer later in life. This one in the link suggests 21% reduced risk. Some studies show significantly more. Now around 600000 a year die from cancers in the US. How many cancer cases could be avoided if we never tried to eliminate chickenpox or measles in the first place?
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Why should the young and healthy be mandated to make sacrifices to protect the old and weak? When a sick person dies, the population becomes more healthy on average.
most old people had measles parties, therefore its fucking a non-factor for them.. its the new immunocompromised people that are the issue... and these people will die to literally anything, so whats the fucking point in forcing potentially deadly substance to save a few people? again... there is no reason for the hysteria over bull shit like the measles, it hardly killed anyone in the past.. its just all the weak bodied people these days (besides the fact were so "medically advanced" now)
>vaccines are SAFE
safe how? like safe as in totally not harmful or safe like you won't catch fire the second you get one which is industry standard?
if they were safe there would be no need for gag order in the court handling the cases, that secrecy should tell you they're not safe
WHAT ARE THEY HIDING?
>le eugenics edgelord meme
It's my fault, really. What did I expect?
>eugenics
has nothing to do with eugenics, user.. its just a simple fact.. why would you add the risk to the entire population to "potentially" save a few? how does this make sense in your mind? and agian, most old people dont even qualify for your bull shit because they had parties to contract measles like normal fucking people used to do.
the science is settled, user. how dare you question? nevermind you cant sue the companies for damage. never mind the gag order. never mind all the kids dying/becoming paralyzed over the world, ok? that is obviously from something else because VACCINES ARE SAFE
>all ppls are le equal
Go gas yourself. Everyone except maybe the clinically retarded value people differently. To think otherwise means you don't value anyone at all, like humanity is just a pointless mass of gooey matter.
Imagine your company having a product that the government mandates people get and you’re immune to damages if it kills or harms anyone. What kind of quality individuals do you think would rise to the top of such companies?
>people on the spectrum are fine
I haVe autism. The state denies my human rights. I support shooting those with the disease, as being an easily influenced, half retarded golem is not any way to live.
>why would you add the risk to the entire population to "potentially" save a few?
You're engaging in what is called doublespeak, and you're being pants on head retarded. Allow me to demonstrate. Let's take ONE disease, measles.
If you said fuck it and didn't vaccinate against measles, you'd put the ENTIRE POPULATION at risk for the complications of it. That is what you're doing.
Do you know what the leading cause of death is for children under 5 years old? Of course you don't. It's pneumonia. Guess what, that's one of the major complications of measles. 30% of kids who get that, die.
There's also a chance for getting encephalitis, which again, is not great for infants and small children.
Even a precursory look at the available data shows that measles leads to fatal complications in 0.5% of cases, and other life-ruining complications in more than that (incl. brain damage and blindness). So what's the mortality rate for the measles vaccine? The case for vaccines is a slam dunk even when you look ONLY at children, let alone the chronically ill and the elderly.
You fucking moron. Please, for the rest of our sakes, do not procreate.
>get autoimmune disease at 20
>you're trash now, get gassed
How rad are you? Have you carved the upside down pentagram with scissors on your arm yet?
Vaccinations save millions of niggers every day.
Nuf said
my fellow unter/ubermench, i didnt realize how similar msot of us with autism are in our way of acting, we use alot of commans in our messages, we -are- easily influenced i have come to udnerstand as of late because once were itnerested in something we go balls deep in it.
You're making insane demands that vast numbers of people sacrifice themselves for you or one of your relatives, and attempt to justify this with the flawed equality meme. This goes hard against human nature and western values.
I'm not suggesting that everyone with an autoimmune disease is automatically of less value, only that there's a cost to helping them, and quite often that cost is higher than the benefit. A 20-year-old with otherwise promising talents would be an exception.
>you'd put the ENTIRE POPULATION at risk for the complications of it
>complications
how about the complication that if people rely on their vaccine, they have to continue to re-up every few years? how does that make more sense than people, like theyve done for years, getting their children infected early and dont have to worry about it every again, all the while building up their own immune system naturally?
lets compare public reaction to measles a few years back, shall we?
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why the fuck are people losing their shit over something they used to treat as nothing? it couldnt be propaganda now, could it? surely the medical industry has nothing to gain from this right? well, no.. and youd fucking know this had you even payed attention in this very thread alone, or did some honest research outside of filling up on bull shit from the same people trying to sell you their products
>may cause brain damage and blindness
same with many of the vaccines, and worse.. so.. why the fuck should i gamble with another gamble? ill stick to the old ways and let my kids develop natural immune systems not reliant on the corrupt fucking medical "professionals". measles wasnt shit long before the vaccine was introduced.
If you're going to play this game, at least address the facts
An autist is the least likely person to be influenced in their particular topic of interest. It's just that he's unlikely to care about other topics and will seemingly accept any position to avoid being personally involved.
So many Jews involved, it must be good for you
Children who were vaccinated against influenza were 3 times more likely to be hospitalized for influenza-related complications than children who did not receive an influenza vaccine (OR = 3.67). (ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Children who received the influenza vaccine were 4 times more likely than children who received a placebo to develop acute respiratory illness from non-influenza respiratory virus infection (RR = 4.40). Influenza vaccine recipients were significantly more likely than placebo recipients to develop non-influenza respiratory infections from rhinoviruses, coxsackieviruses, and echoviruses (RR = 3.46). (ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
The influenza vaccine will not work in people who also received the previous season’s influenza vaccine. People who were vaccinated 2 years in a row were not protected against influenza. In fact, vaccine effectiveness was “negative 45%”. (ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
That vaccines cause autoimmune conditions is without question. Read any vaccine insert and they list numerous autoimmune conditions caused by that particular vaccine during clinical trials. There is not one vaccine on the market that does not share this "feature". There are entire medical textbooks on this issue, such as Vaccines and Autoimmunity, published by Wiley/Blackwell (amazon.com
Mice that were infected with a seasonal influenza virus survived exposure to a lethal influenza strain; vaccinated mice died. (ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Infants who received several vaccines concurrently were the most likely to be hospitalized or die. This trend was more pronounced the younger the age of the child. (ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
>people knew this hundreds of years ago
>people still have issues understanding
unbelievable
That vaccines cause autoimmune conditions is without question. Read any vaccine insert and they list numerous autoimmune conditions caused by that particular vaccine during clinical trials. There is not one vaccine on the market that does not share this "feature". There are entire medical textbooks on this issue, such as Vaccines and Autoimmunity, published by Wiley/Blackwell (amazon.com
Mice that were infected with a seasonal influenza virus survived exposure to a lethal influenza strain; vaccinated mice died. (ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Infants who received several vaccines concurrently were the most likely to be hospitalized or die. This trend was more pronounced the younger the age of the child. (ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
>how about the complication that if people rely on their vaccine, they have to continue to re-up every few years?
Let's stick to the topic at hand, measles. If you're trying to conflate measles with influenza you're going full retard.
>lets compare public reaction to measles a few years back, shall we?
Not an argument. When Chernobyl blew up, the media and the authorities reported everything was fine - now we know it definitely wasn't.
>same with many of the vaccines, and worse.. so.. why the fuck should i gamble with another gamble?
Because the odds are much worse with non-vaccination.
>why the fuck are people losing their shit over something they used to treat as nothing?
You didn't even read my post, did you?
Nothing in the facts contradicts my position. You're just basing your argument on the incorrect notion that 1 human life is automatically of a set value.
>said that they have diagnosed with fever, swelling, and muscle pain right after taking the shot
Thats the fucking point. Vaccines are shot so those same symptoms dont kill you the next time you experience them without a vaccine shot.
Trump said get vaccinated.
Why are you never Trump?
>the science is settled, user. how dare you question?
questioning and reproducing results is what science is user,
tell me this then, so if science and the EPA say it's fine for big cities to use their sewer sludge and sell it as organic fertilizer to the agriculture business, even though that sludge is full of chemicals, radioactive particulate, drugs, bio toxins
are you ok with that kind of science? because you're eating foods contaminated with those materials and you don't have a way around it if you're not growing your own food in a very controlled environment
how do you feel about being poisoned yourself? or are you going to tell me BPP is fine and we should eat cookies made from it?
>30% of kids who get that, die.
oh fuck off we got plenty more where they came from
>When Chernobyl blew up
MOSSAD operation, very difficult to get computer virus into that system
that was the heart of Russia's farmland, facility was put there to make them reliant on food from the USA
>Trump said get vaccinated.
proof? I have the vaccines cause autism one only
>he
Change it or I'm not saving your info graphic
>Nothing in the facts contradicts my position.
I spent some time writing out how the damage caused by measles TO CHILDREN ALONE is worse than the damage from the vaccine, and you're saying nothing contradicts your position. And that
>flawed equality meme
is first, the de-facto reality of our society, and second, the only thing preventing us from dumping wastes of resources like you in to the oven en masse.
What you're advocating is a slippery slope into literal eugenics program. If you don't understand that, you're a retard, and if you do, you're an edgelord.
> trump is clearly anti vaxx
> gets in office and says pro vaxx stuff
> left and news kvetch about it because muh trump
> left researches and forces vaccines to be looked at publicly
> public opinion sways on the left against vaxx
>mfw trump moves people anti vaxx by baiting them like he does with everything
Irrelevant.
>Let's stick to the topic at hand
are you of the belief that you get the measles vaccine once and youre good? i dont get your comment here
>media reported lies before to cover up a huge disaster
>they would never lie again!
how is the overall nonchalant attitude in multiple outlets OUTSIDE the news not relevant?
>because the odds are much worse with non-vaccination
how would you know that? they dont do vaccinated vs unvaccinated studies, my friend.. at least, not honest ones.
>you didnt read my post did you
i read your opinions, i did. but they contradict with actual science, however
>companies are pushing vaccines so much and giving incentives because they CARE about our health and well-being
imagine being this retarded. do you see the food/water they are trying to pass off as edible nowadays?
Do israeli kids get vaccinated?
>even if they did, lots of people on the autism spectrum do fine.
/cringe
ohh, itd be ok then........
Don't be a bigot Britbong. It's a xe
Yes
>bayer buys monsanto
>now the company that sells you poison sells you the medicine to cure it
this shit is a fucking racket
So there’s nothing to worry about
Anons who have the dedication and energy to reply to this thread (which is made everyday) you're doing God's work I salute you
you should read the images im posting along with the text user... you clearly are not too good with picking up on sarcasm. i know there are people retarded enough to actually use those talking points.. but i aint one
Grow you own vegetables
*your
Yep
It makes sense
You pump your cattle full to keep them healthy.
Were cattle, so this makes us healthy
That pic is rage inducing. These kikes must die for their attack on our children
