theguardian.com/world/2019/may/02/venezuela-military-and-maduro-hold-early-morning-parade-we-will-never-surrender >Bolton said a meeting of Trump’s top national security and foreign policy aides on Venezuela was held at the White House on Wednesday. >The acting defence secretary, Patrick Shanahan, cancelled a trip to Europe because of the crisis. >According to the Washington Post, Bolton and his team have clashed with US military leaders over their reported reluctance to put forward military options for Venezuela. >In his remarks on Wednesday, Bolton appeared to goad military leaders into taking an aggressive stance.
Can someone explain why the US is suddenly hellbent on expelling some puny dictator from a completely irrelevant 3rd world country in south america?
Maduros govt is one of the firm antizionist ones. While america is staunchly zionist. Conclusions?
Hudson Green
Your decrepit little bus driver is going down, Iran shill.
Matthew Kelly
Why do they want to get rid of the dictator of Venezuela? To secure a massive oil reserve for when they go to war with Iran, the final boss of the Middle East.
It is fucking with population of thier allies down here. Venezuelas was legitly trying to take over SA at some point. Everybody wants maduro out but nobody wants to get thier hand dirty. It is disgusting
Nolan Morales
>holds worlds largest proven oil reserves >irrelevant
Kayden Rogers
Maduro as a true brown supremacist supports brown Palestinians
Kayden Jenkins
the US is like an adult who tries to control south american countries, like retarded kids, from hurting themselves
Samuel Young
how did Trump fuck this up?
Easton Morris
Iran is weak
Hunter Gomez
This. War with Iran would halt oil transport in the middle east entirely driving prices through the roof. They need an easily accessed easy to get supply. Fracking is neither. Its desperately licking rocks for the last drop, costing more in energy than it produces. Venezuelan oil while shitty sluge is better than squeezing stones for their blood.
Cameron Powell
Trump inherited this situation. The US under Bush and Obama could have done something but they didn't.
right because china and russa both spend nearly a trillion yearly on defense and are involved in illegal wars where they bomb people kill innocents in the middle east for 18 years, for oil and poppy. because pulling back on murder = cucking right?
Luke Howard
Who here not fighting for ZOG come draft time?
Ryan Rivera
1: They have a lot of oil
2: The exodus of their people is causing a refugee crisis.
3: We don't want Maduro to become a puppet state of the Chinese and/or Ruskies.
4: Venezuela should be a profitable country if it weren't for its incompetent government and our rich people always have an eye out for new investment opportunities.
Bolton is going to backdoor Trump into war if Trump doesn't get rid of him. He had his chance, he was ineffective, and now he's going to escalate no matter what Trump wants the policy to be.
Matthew Gomez
Because his massive fuck up going to give Russia and China a foothold on our continent. If was all fun and games before this point. Just watching another socialist country burn down. But its started to get serious and has to end.
I dont think we were behind the coup. It would have worked if so.
Christopher Butler
Sounds like Maduro is getting weak. If he has to react like that to opposition, then that means he's trying to act stronger than he really is.
Connor Garcia
What's to fuck up? Communism eats itself.
Ayden Bennett
i love how pol cant decide what side to pick on this
is obvious drumpf wants a war,him doing some bullshit in venezuela will look great to his retarded fans before the elections
Benjamin Price
Sounds like you're making a half-assed assumption to coddle yourself since things didn't go as you hoped
Sebastian Roberts
His administration has the mentality of a Bush-style neocon but faces the same problem Obama's administration faced, just general ineffectiveness. He failed with Assad, so it's very likely he'll fail to take out Maduro.
Christopher Wood
It's no longer "opposition", it's armed group of traitors supported by hostile foreign regimes. If the same happened in, say, France, they all would be already shot at the very least. And USA&co would be if not cheering, but definitely not planing to go to a war with French tyrannical regime.
Siding with jews. Firing Steve Bannon was the turning point.
He would have way more international leeway if he didn't blatantly supported Israel. That was why Obama govt got away with bombing Libya and Syria and the interventions they had. Jewish USA is the worst USA and everyone in the world knows it. So Trump supporting Guaidó making him look like a puppet for zionist USA interest alienated a huge part of the Venezuelan revolutionaries.
Also, got to give props to Maduro. He is actually managing this clusterfuck very well. The way he keeps the Army high ups on his side is making impossible to lose a civil war given the gun laws in venezuela. Also the absurd amount of mercenaries, courtesy of uncle puts and the Castros, keeps the Army in check. They have no reason to rebel, even if foot soldiers have reasons, they can't get organized. And even at that Guaidó fucked up by asking for a pacific rebellion. Might as well kept his mouth shut.
This only solution to Venezuela is Civil War. Give weapons to the civilians and let them fight, they win, they win, they lose, they lose.
>dictator >democratically elected and doesn't have full control of anything
American education at work.
Jonathan Richardson
Trump's secretary of state Pompeo says Hezbollah is active in Venezuela 'The Iranians are impacting the people of Venezuela and throughout South America'
Why is the US so cucked. If you want to oust a government in your backyard just invade them and install a governor-general or something instead of this sanctions and sponsored military coup garbage, or just leave them alone.
Lincoln Anderson
>removes opposition from ballet and continuously changed the date of the election >wow people really like me I got elected again haha >rewrites constitution and gives himself more power
Easton White
Trump and his neocon kike advisors want to lock down Venezuela's oil resources before they start a war with Iran.
Austin Smith
>Can someone explain why the US is suddenly hellbent on expelling some puny dictator from a completely irrelevant 3rd world country in south america? because trump is a neocon
Dominic Rodriguez
Based Iran thwarting ZOG across the globe
Levi Ortiz
Oil BECAUSE IRAN closes Hormuz strait!
One /x/ theory is that meteor shower is not a drill and in case shit might go down, this can be used as excuse to blow it up.
But we dont need that x, cause its most likely the oil, would be logical and US being pressured from East.
Jose Cook
Why is my home country ( Venezuela ) still being fucking retards.
Gabriel James
LISTEN UP VENEZUELA YOUR OIL IS OURS YOUR COUNTRY IS OURS YOU WILL BOW BEFORE THE AMERICAN EMPIRE OR YOU WILL BE DESTROYED IF YOU BECOME ONE WITH US YOU WILL HAVE UNPARALLELED RICHES AND HAPPINESS THE CHOICE IS YOUR STINKY MADURO OR CHAD GAIDO
That's because Maduro is actually the legitimate and recognized president of Venezuela.
Luke James
This but unironically.
Jackson Morales
America has been failing in all of its foreign interventions for almost a decade now, retard.
Brandon Adams
Pffffft
Robert Ramirez
>recognize Crimea as russian territory >recognize Belarus, Ukraine and Georgia as russian sphere >Lift sanctions against Russia >Profit
Landon Lee
He has the support of the military and the people. If this were not the case, he would be easily deposed by CIA fake-president Guido.
Asher Jackson
I don't really care either way. Yeah, I hope MADuro hangs but, in the end, all I really want is for Russia to look stupid... again.
Easton Edwards
Why do people here suddenly support a faggot commie dictator? Venezuela is a shithole because of Maduro and the late Chavez. They literally don't have toilet paper and food in the supermarkets. This has absolutely nothing to do with Israel. Yeah, maybe Maduro is 'against Israel' but it isn't because he is le based, it's because all communists have historically been opposed to Israel because they sympathise with the cause of 'national liberation' and they see the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as imperialism from Israel. That doesn't negate the fact that communist kikes openly killed tens of millions of people in the former USSR in cold blood, including in my home country.
People on here have a false dichotomy stuck in their heads that the enemy of your enemy is your friend. Even if Maduro opposes Israel, Venezuela is separated from Israel by an ocean and he can't do anything to help the Palestinians. But you know what? He wouldn't actually do anything if he could because he's a self serving communist dictator. He talks lots of shit about supporting oppressed people around the world to keep up the facade. The best he can do is vote on impotent UN resolutions to 'condemn' Israel alogside other cucked countries like North Korea.
Nolan Flores
They're not traitors. MADuro is illegitimate and I hope he gets killed.
Elijah Wright
We're fantastic at achieving overthrows, but suck miserably at reassembling the pieces. I'm inclined to agree we weren't directly involved (not significantly anyway)
Jacob Murphy
>Why do people here suddenly support a faggot commie dictator?
They don't want to admit that Trump is right. They literally rather side with Mohammed Ohmar and Alejandro Cortez rather than admit that Trump is right.
Adam Foster
Guiado is literally a socialist too, why should I support wasting money to replace a socialist with a socialist?
Christian Mitchell
Doesn’t matter, fracking isn’t economically viable in the long term. It takes a huge investment in energy and largely depends on government subsidies to break a profit. We’re literally paying taxes to be an oil exporter. If we were drilling that much oil we’d be swimming in money
>hurr Jow Forums supports Maduro because they just hate Trump Stupid nigger kike. If Trump declared an invasion of KSA and Israel the board would be fanatically supporting him. Nobody wants to fight wars for ZOG in random places like fucking South America, against dirt poor jungle countries that couldn’t hurt the US if they tried.
Dominic Hernandez
>and the people. The 1 Millions venecos in myncountry would disagree
Jack Walker
W-why won't you let the people have their (((democracy)))? They're h-hungry.
If they are in your country, they don't really matter, do they?
Nicholas Ross
>He is only in there until free elections can occur. oh yeah and i am sure there will certanly be free elections
Easton Harris
Oil you motherfucking retard. They've explicitly said it too. They're not hiding their intentions, you'd know about this if you paid attention fucking eurofaggot
Parker Roberts
who cares about what the traitors in your country say
Jason Martin
>Can someone explain why the US is suddenly hellbent on expelling some puny dictator from a completely irrelevant 3rd world country in south america? Have you taken a look at how many Venezuelans are migrating to the US right now, both legally and illegally? short answer, way more than all other nationalities currently migrating to the US combined, hell, at this rate it won't be just Miami but all of south Florida will become a Venezuelan exclave, something not even the Cuban diaspora could achieve in 50 years
Jason Butler
Constitution says otherwise.
Alexander Rivera
We could just shut down the fucking border it’d be a lot cheaper than fighting a war, which would inevitably bring refugees anyway.
Brayden Phillips
Fight your own wars. Oh yea that’s right you’re Isreali so you can’t.
Ryan Evans
No one with a brain read that book or cares what these shitheads say anymore you pathetic Jew weasel. Nice try.
Brayden Cruz
>Can someone explain why the US is suddenly hellbent on expelling some puny dictator from a completely irrelevant 3rd world country in south america? glumpf needs a conflict to get extra boomer points for 2020 he failed with nk so memezuela is their only chance
Joseph Lewis
Luckily America is sitting on trillions of barrels of reserves and shale oil. Which I'm pretty sure the reason we don't use it is for this exact scenario.
Ethan Morgan
Ok, open border for mexican inmigrants it is
Tyler Nguyen
>Have you taken a look at how many Venezuelans are migrating to the US right now, both legally and illegally? Not as many as the one comming to congolombia and Peru