Not satisfied with being an 1/7th stakeholder in ITER international fusion reactor project, China is now building its own full-pledged fusion reactor larger (2x) and more advanced than ITER called China Fusion Engineering Test Reactor (CFETR).
China is now on track to be the first to produce commercially viable fusion reactor and will likely have decade+ tech advantage over the runner-up. If you don't know, fusion reactors can generate insane amount of electricity with just a little bit of cheap hydrogen fuel and produce no radioactive waste. Every nation will have to be in China's good graces in order to be able to buy and install these reactors and continue to be in their good graces to be able to obtain maintenance and spare parts for them.
>inb4 just don't buy Chinese fusion reactor - every factory is going to leave if the next country over has fusion reactors and have 80% lower electricity price
Your bait is crappy. China is building a tokamac... BFD. That means they're about 40 years behind us. They don't have a practical fusion reactor. No one does. At least, not publicly.
Chinamen can't even build a functioning plane, go fuck yourself Chang
Joshua Watson
>no source sage
Jason Thompson
>inb4 just don't buy Chinese fusion reactor - every factory is going to leave if the next country over has fusion reactors and have 80% lower electricity price No, chang. The cost of shipping would be higher than than electricity saving in most industries. Not to mention, anyone could just copy their reactor design.
Xavier Thomas
Most of the new planned fusion reactors, including ITER and DEMO (of which the U.S. is a participating member), are Tokamak. The United States had an interesting design called stellarator, but it ultimately went nowhere as the funding dried up, and American researchers couldn't continue development.
>The cost of shipping would be higher than than electricity saving in most industries Think about how almost everything is made in China right now even without fusion energy.
>Not to mention, anyone could just copy their reactor design. It took France and Japan 40 years to catch up to the U.S. in conventional commercial nuclear reactor technology. Russia is still 15 to 20 years behind.
Josiah Long
SUPRESSED.COM
Jose Edwards
The Chinese can't even make a building without killing 30 dogs and children in the process, nobody's afraid of your paper tiger
Kevin Stewart
That isn't because of the price of electricity there, which is about 8 cents per kwh. Labour is cheaper, some materials are cheaper and so on.
Think about it this way. There are some states with electricity rates of .20 cents a kwh, others with .12 yet that alone doesn't completely kill manufacturing in the higher cost states despite being nearly twice the cost. Shipping usually costs companies more money than their electricity and moving items is very energy intensive. Obviously you could afford to do more energy intensive processes with fusion but by the time you really develop these other countries could build reactors and catch up as well.
Adam Nelson
Plasma physicist here - neither of these projects will end up yielding a viable reactor design. The entire fusion community has become obsessed with this idea that if they just build shit big enough and expensive enough and powerful enough that they can brute force sustainable fusion into working, but that's not a feasible strategy. Fusion needs to go back to basics - looking for creative new field geometries and stabilizing MHD effects.
I'm more pissed that Oakridge developed molten salt reactor tech was given to China to experiment on meanwhile our domestic nuclear industry has grown stagnant due to over regulation.
Matthew Martinez
Fuck off (((glownigger)))
Sebastian Cruz
fusion is a meme, it'll never be viable.
Josiah Powell
thats why international technological efforts never work >nation sticks around long enough to establish a spy network
Tyler Ward
A self sustaining fusion reactor is a meme. They'd be better off trying to tap into the global electric grid, like Steinmetz talked about and like Tesla experimented with.
Isaac Brown
>flying is a meme, it'll never be possible >t. farmer from 1880
Jack Clark
Define meme, right now.
Thomas Clark
Your mom’s penis.
Oliver Moore
>1880 farmer says flying is impossible Yikes, awful example my dude.
>The hot air balloon is the first successful human-carrying flight technology. The first untethered manned hot air balloon flight was performed by Jean-François Pilâtre de Rozier and François Laurent d'Arlandes on November 21, 1783, in Paris, France, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_air_balloon
Regardless, flying and fusion are two completely different animals.
